Alex MacLeod

Pardon my ignorance donjo but why would you want to be saying no surrender Jonny Tuffey?

I would be surpries if Butcher was offered the job. I'd be even more surprised if he were to take it. Terry is nobody's 'yes' man so I doubt very much that he'd be able to work with the old school tie brigade that are the FA.

Well now they've got an excuse for Euro failure. Goes to show that the old school brigade that run the FA are still as thick as they've always been. Terry is innocent till proven guilty yet they punish him by stripping him of the captaincy. Capello speaks out. The FA hold talks and Capello 'resigns'.

Yes but how do you know you'll get that extra thousand bums? And the more people you have the more the cost to police them. Does it really though? Can we not just stay with the same numbers of police, if we are talking about lower half of the league teams. There have been police free SPL games this season, one involving us I think away to Motherwell? So we don't really need them at all! I dont think I've ever been to a game where there hasn't been some sort of police presence but its not so much the guys in chequered hats I'm referring to but the whole security and crowd control. I'm led to believe that there is a laid down ratio of stewards to crowd at any venue.

I've never heard a more ridiculous reason for sacking a manager. So it seems Livi have no ambition to progress up the leagues any further. They appear to think thaat they can sit where they are and operate a conveyor belt of youngsters that will make them loads of dosh. The big failing in all that is that the kids have to be good enough to generate the cash. Falkirk made some cash out of one or two youngsters. How many did they reject to find those. Hibs have also made money from bringing through a few players but some of them had actually been through the Newcastle system prior to reaching Hibs so between those two clubs they learned from a few top players and managers. Livi have no chance of employing the standard of coach needed to find and then develop the youngsters. At the end of the day if it was so easy to do I'd have thought that it would be happening for teams like us. Livingstone your aims will be your downfall.

Oh I live in the real world dougal. I have many friends and work aquaintances who are Rangers fans and who abhor the antics of the a certain faction within them. I've even been a guest at Ibrox and sat among those who are exactly like our own main stand brigade. Sit quiet and watch the game without noise. Blue tinted specs....No. I was brought up in Fort William as a Celtic fan. I was Celtic daft but had never been to Parkhead. Indeed the first time I ever had the chance to go there was as an ICT fan. As a teenager in the Fort I would go with some mates to watch Thistle from time to time and always followed their results while I was at sea and then after when I moved to central belt. While living in the Falkirk area I used to take my lad to Brockville. I spent many years of my life around bigots of both persuasions, especially during the years of extreme violence and know a hell of a lot more than you, someone who doesn't know me, seem to think I know.

If anyone knows your job Tug then they're bound to understand the committments you have to make in life mate. I dont think anyone could say you were any less of a fan of our club. Besides did you not parade the Caley Jags colours in front of the Regimental colours in Basra. Up until, and including our relegated season, I would be at a home game every time I wasn't away. Sadly, price increases and no wage rises dictate that I can no longer do that. Am I any less of a fan?

The big problem with the vouchers for cup games CD is that you dont know if you'll be at home. It is entirly possible that the extra payment you suggest is made and no home games are drawn in that season. As for the number of cup game......for Scottish cup, so long as we're an SPL team we'll only have a possible three games where we can dictate the price. Think its the same for league cup. Semi's and final's are Hampden. So I suppose if you see the draw as being a 50/50 lottery them there should be a chance of at least three home games over both competitions. I dont know what the answer to pricing is. I think ST's are over-priced. I believe pay on day prices are ridiculuous but I dont have to balance the books but increase the entertainment factor and I'll happilly pay up.

I've watched the game twice now and the highlights even more and I dont blame Tokely for the Samaras goal. Samaras was doing what he does best. Hanging around looking bored. At this point, as Hooper (I think) puts the ball forward, Samaras snaps into action. Tokely doesn't get on the end of it and the rest is a very good goal. However, I do think Proc should have seen what was happening and stayed with Samaras. The only other bad mistake was the pass back from Tokely that could have resulted in another goal. We played fairly well up to the first goal, had a lapse of concentration for three or four minutes then got it together again for the remainder of the firts half. We even had a couple of efforts on goal and should have had a penalty for the way Tade was held during a corner. All in all I was sure we'd come out in the second half and go for it. I dont know what was said in the dressing room at half time but a different team came back out after the break. Celtic were mediocre at best and were there for the taking but we didn't capitalise on that. In fact we held up a white flag and threw down our arms. Proc tried to shepherd the ball out and then gets pushed of it and then makes an error of judgement that gives them a penalty. If only he'd dragged the ball across the line and given a corner things may have been different. Other than the couple of incidents that cost us the game I wouldn't single out anyone for criticism. I think everyone played well for th first 32 minutes. I think they got it together as a team towards the end of the first half and I think they all failed to play as a team for the second half. I couldn't for the life of me understand what the tactics were supposed to be. I also couldn't understand why, when he should have been on the touchline shouting encouragement and guidance, TB was sat up at the back of the stand. This was a cup game. No points at stake. Nothing to lose. We should have been set up for all out attack. If we had done then failed at least heads would have been held high.

Yes you're probably right & ive heard it said before Inverness folk are renowned for being very reserved Which is why the place has the reputation of being the swinging capital of Britian

Yes but how do you know you'll get that extra thousand bums? And the more people you have the more the cost to police them.

You crack me up....complaining about lack of support from the local area in one thread and hoping that we don't convert people to the cause and bring them in on an another!!! How exactly do you suggest converting one of them, once an Orc always an Orc IMO You maybe quite happy sitting next to union jack waving bigot but I'm most definitely not With that kind of attitude I can see now why you previously voted yes to kill of your previous team Dougal By not tarring them all with the one brush. They're not all as you describe but to describe them all as such is just to show yourself up to be as much a bigot as the minority who sing the songs and wave the flags.

Your no wrong there dougal. If we could resurrect the Corries we fill the stadium double over. I'd go along with that if there was a profit. I also think we have proven on numerous occassions that reducing prices for cup games does not increase gate reciepts. We have reuced prices when we've played lower league teams and the crowds have reduced correspondingly.

Network of contacts isn't much use if your in administration.

If Rangers were to go completely and there were left a number of football fans looking for another outlet for their matchday entertainment then I'd welcome them with open arms. Personally I think that, now they are out of the cup, and, with the team they have just now, it looks very like they are out of the title race Rangers will go into voluntary administration. They will know they have enough leeway to avoid falling into a relegation battle so will stay in SPL. That then gives them till start of next season to regroup and work towards getting out of administration. And if it takes longer than that they start next season on a ten point deficit. In that time they keep operating as a going concern and they get a load of debt written off. They may also have to sell off some assetts, reduce their squad and get rid of Murray Park but I dont think there's enough value in Ibrox to force the sale of that. Not many developers out there prepared to take on all the problems of a listed building.

Aye and theres a lot of empty seats up Gorgie way

The matchday experience needs to be entertaining. The pipeband really got Murrayfield buzzing yesterday but so did the match. Trouble with pipebands is they cost money. There has to be entertainment of some sort. There has to be music that gets the hackles up. I dont think many who have gone to Gorgie, Ibrox or Parkhead would not admit to letting their feet tap to the music. Even the announcer at Murrayfield done his bit to gee up the crowds. At the end of the day though, there has to be excitement on the pitch.

I'm beginning to think this cup just doesn't have the appeal of the majority of football fans any more. All attendances yesterday were way down on normal. Aberdeen - 6785 Hibs - 8198 St Mirren - 3334 Motherwell - 5139 And looking at Ibrox just now I dont think that stadium is near half full.

My reason for not going is pretty much what Johndo said. The entry cost didn't put me off. The early kick-off and the poor weather forecasts were my deciding factors. There are many fans around Tayside and the central belt who, had this been a three o'clock k.o, would probably have made the journey but the early k.o usually means a mad rush from train to station, a mad rush for very early train or an overnight stay. For me the first two options dont make for an enjoyable start to a match day and its too soon after the festive period for the third option.

Johndo, you could invest some of you massive pension in the club and take over control of the board.

Thats what I said

Nothing to lose now. Get Proc off and Winnall on

Forty three minutes of good play and two minutes of madness puts us one behind. Repeat the forty three minutes with 110% concentration and we can still do it.

Disagree DD. If people are in a position to make law then they should never break law.

Re-read the comments CD....the question was 'have ever been' not 'are'