Alex MacLeod

The fact of the matter is that there will never be a good time. England knows she will be far worse off without the Scots. If Scotland had never been important to England Bannockburn and Culloden would never have happened. This country of ours will survive and prosper as an independant nation. The evidence is all around if anyone wants to bother looking for it. Since devolved power came to Scotland we have put more into the British economy thsat we get back yet we are still able to operate a better health service, better and cheaper education system and have frozen council tax for the fourth year in a row. If this country can do that now then what could we do with full control of revenue? Labour will always oppose independance because they know that without Scottish seats they will never get full control of government. The Tories just dont want the risk of losing their vast swathes of land in Scotland. The final thing I'd say, and the one that always gets on my wick, is the many people who are negative about independence because they want Salmond out of power. Hellloooo.........We are talking a democratic independent Scotland......not a dictatorship. After a positive referendum you can all vote whoever you want into government.

We will always be told that the timing is crap. Timing was good in the 1070's but we were told then that the timing was crap. We were also told a whole heap of arguments why Scotland should not be independent by the government while at the same time the same government classified a report that concluded that Scotland would flurish under independence and be considerably richer than England, one of the strongest nations economically in Europe and be in surplus. Fast forward to today and we again are told the timing is crap and the same reasons that were argued to decieve Scotland then are the same reasons that roll of the tounge of the government today. It's a total nonsense. I dont think England had any interest in the state of Scotland back in 1070.

Get this team fit and working well together and we could be aiming for the top spot next season. Rangers wont be there so the joint sponsorship deals will dry up. Celtics average gate will drop so they'll have to cut there cloth to suit. It'll be easy competition.

Yep and if anyone wants to learn the words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ2uT34rgmo

Thur 23rd Aug - JLS Fri 24th Aug - Status Quo Sat 25th Aug - Runrig Sun 26th Aug - Jules Holland Details here http://ckevents.net/ That is some line-up for one weekend and will likely be a big boost to the local economy. Now if we could couple all that with a glamour match at TCS!!!

Personally I think if we go down under the current climate we will be back to part time football in Inverness. I also think some people are not looking at a whole picture when they single out some players and question why they get a start. The ones I would bring to attention here are the U-21 Scottish players that get the nod when some think they shouldn't. Doesnt the club get a fee from the SFA each time one of those players are used? Tactics are something that baffles me at times. Too many players played in wrong positions. I think the first thing that needs to happen is to get our best team playing together week in week out. Get them gelling with each other and the rest should fall into place. Then we may win games we're expected to lose and lose those we're expected to win. At least we'll see we are playing as a team. And finally, to put things in perspective, our operating budget for a full season is around £3.5 million. Rangers need to cut £4.7 of spending between now and seasons end to avoid liquidation.

You can only get a tax rebate if your employer has actually paid the taxes to HMRC.

John Rankin Dundee U 3 - 0 ICT

Interesting....................who is the Inverness Caledonian Trust? Are they the same as Inverness Caledonian Thistle Trust Limited a dormant company registered at Companies House as a construction and civil engineering company and who's directors are Mr Allan George Sellar, Mr David John Stewart and Mr David Fraser Sutherland. Registered business address is in Stoneyfield Business Park.

Lee Cox came from a championship club. Josh Meekings came from a championship club. Doran, Winnall and OTJ all came from Premiership clubs. A. Shinnie came from an SPL club. The English leagues are of a far higher standard to ours and teams from league 2 could easily hold there own against most of the SPL teams. That said everyone is missing the one point that is holding this club back from building success. Income. We cant give players longer term deals. We cant give players security. We cant give players the sort of wage they'd get at many other clubs so how do we attract all those championship players we should be looking at?

Agree with a lot of that Chris but I disagree on your assessment of Meekings. I thought he stapped his authority on M-S and stopped him doing what he's good at.

Sorry mate but I have to totally disagree with you. Butcher has brought enough players into the squad that can do the business. When they go out onto the field its them who have to shine. As for the constant reflection on letting Munro go. Dont you think its maybe wearing a bit thin. Munro was let go. End of. I recently found out the reason why he was released and whether or not I agree with it it happened and its time to move on. We have a team of very good players. We just aren't getting it right as a team. That can be put down to injury, constant changes or whatever but, I believe, the bottom line is we are a club struggling to hire that extra bit of quality that makes every other player try harder. I look at the history of Scottish football and I see teams now in the lower leagues who once upon a time were the elite of Scottish football. They couldn't hold out on the low gates and neither will we. We will try but so will everyone else and our 3000 or so diehards are just not enough to keep us as one of the top twelve.

We are not a top six team thats for sure. I think we'll pick up enough points to be safe for another season but we really need to get a team together that plays with each other each and every game. We have no recognisable partnerships and that was our failing tonight. Uniteds defence was excellent. They got forward when they had to. They tracked back when they had to and they covered for each other when they had to. First goal was just a comedy of errors. Leave aside the hand ball from Rankin his strike was something else. The swerve he got on the ball. But it started from Gillet not clearing the ball as he should have done. A poor pass back and poor clearance from Esson. Richie tries to kick a ball thats above his head and Rankin does the rest. The other two goals came partly from defensive errors but more from good partnerships. We tried to play at times and we got into their box on a few occassions but we just dont have the finish. I'm not going to single out individuals for criticism. They were up against a football team. I will however criticise the tactics. On a couple of occasions when we kept the ball on the ground and passed it about we got into the opposition box. For most of it it was hit and hope. Lumping balls up to knowhere will not win us games. Put that one behind and win on saturday.

No!! In fact I can't honestly see us make up ten points to DU with only eighteen available.

When offers like this come along its usually because of a lack of numbers in hospitality. There will be a little profit made from the entry fee's assuming a decent number turn up. There is also profit to be made from bar sales which is probably the main reason to try and fill the place.

Thats the point Luke. The defender will be ostrosised but the midfielder or striker will be a hero............for one incident in a game. As I say its a team sport. Attack starts with the keeper and defence starts with the striker.

He used to be bishbishbish but his glass got to half way and he had to make a decision. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen Proc play. I've seen him play well. I've seen him play bad. Proc, like many defenders of many teams, can go well for 95% of any game but make one mistake and he's crucified. Thats the nature of being a defender. Its the same with keepers. Make a dozen spectacular saves and then fluff one ball and your crap. Whereas midfielders can do nothing all came but only be seen as having done nothing. Almost everyone on this forum will put Jonny Hayes into their team every game. And that includes me. The fact is though Jonny can go three quarters of a game doing absolutely nothing but run around like a headless chicken but at the same time can turn it on two or three times in the game and give a result. Proc has a role to play in this squad and he does it just as well or as bad as every other player. Its a team game that needs a switched on team and when the switch is on each and every one of our squad can put in the right performance. The big problem is that we forget the switch too many times.

Better get Butcher in the frame I suppose

The question is.......................was there ever serious investment on offer or are a group of people trying to buy control of the club? A figure of £250,000 was bandied about but that amount would only cover the shortfall on our running costs last season. Gate reciepts give us approx £950,000, based on this seasons average gate of 4,200 and an average price of £15. The cost to operate the club in 10/11 season was over £3.5 million. Gate reciepts make up a quarter of this so a lot of income has to be gained to balance the books. Personally I dont see a one off quarter million payment for control of the club being in the long term interest of the business. I'd like to see the sort of investors who can put a decent, competitive team on the field that would be challenging mid to top half of the table year on year. Sadly the people with that sort of cash are in very short supply.

The previous choice was a bit tongue in cheek Esson Piermayr, Tokely, Williams, G. Shinnie Gnakpa, Tansey, Foran, Ross McKay, Tade Bench: Tuffey, Proctor, Gillet, Tudor Jones, Sutherland, Winnall

Naw!!!! Like 666 is the mark of the devil 75 is the mark of ultimate womanhood.

in a nine goal thriller.............pity it was six against Peterheed

I've only been married 8 years this time.

They've all got it wrong...........Its Richard Murray thats coming in.

I totally agree with you DD but there is a helluvalot more money in the English game than there is in Scotland. In Scotland the SPL and most of the 1st div are full time teams. All the rest are part time and paying part time wages. In England the game provides so many more full time teams. Take the top two out of Scotland and the average gate on a saturday is probably still below what an English 2nd div team cam expect. Scottish football is not seen as the same marketable product as it is down south. That if further reflected in the fact that only the SPL are seen as televisable. Yet ten years ago Div 1 was also televised. South of the border we are seen as no more than a country that can produce a few players able to play in their leagues and a few more with the brain to manage their teams. Come independence we'll show them.