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Arbroath Away Feb2024

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We head to Arbroath on Saturday, the scene of Big Dunc's first game in charge of the Caley Jags, where we earned our first win of the season in our seventh Championship game and his tenure at the Caley Jags began with only one point on the board prior to this game. We now sit on twenty-five points, but still perilously close to the relegation zone, unable to put a consistent run together to climb the table like others have done (Morton the prime example). Max Anderson is suspened and something like five definite outs and another five struggling with knocks. 🚑 Nothing new there then! 

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:redcard: Max Anderson :redcard:

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Venue Pld Won Drn Lst For Agst + / -
Home 25 17 4 4 60 21 +39
Away 24 11 6 7 35 29 +6
Neutral 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 49 28 10 11 95 50 +45

We have always generally had the edge over Arbroath but have found them to be more resilient of late, losing at home last time we met.

Last 10 Competitive Meetings
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Looking Down:  1 - 2  For cod's sake! Inverness slumped to an embarrassing defeat as Arbroath stunned Ferguson's flops at the Caledonian Stadium. Arbroath with big players out and only three outfield players on the bench proved too good for an overrated Inverness bunch of haddies who were easily beaten by the Smokies.
With both sides losing in midweek, this game took on more significance for Big Dunc's side and Jim McIntyre was also looking to get away from the bottom of the table after he replaced Dick Campbell. David Wotherspoon was fit enough to start and good to see Keith Bray return to the squad alongside Robbie Thompson. Arbroath came North with only four on the bench with Michael McKenna and Ricky Little still out injured and O'Brien suspended. As it turned out we are now looking down the table instead of up after back to back defeats to the two teams who were below us only four days ago as Arbroath won 2-1. That was new manager Jim McIntyre's first win and it moves Arbroath off the bottom of the table. one point behind Inverness. All the goals came in the first half from Jay Bird, Billy Mckay and two minutes later David Gold. Looks like a few will be going cheap in the January sales.

 

Pos Team Pld W D L F A Pts
Partick Thistle v Dunfermline: Friday Night TV game (mon the Harry Wraggs)
1. Dundee Utd 23 14 6 3 46 13 48
2. Raith Rovers 23 14 5 4 42 32 47
3. Partick Thistle 23 10 8 5 46 37 38
4. Morton 23 9 6 8 32 27 33
5. Ayr United 24 8 5 11 33 43 29
6. Airdrieonians 22 8 4 10 22 27 28
7. Queens Park 24 7 6 11 31 41 27
8. Inverness CT 24 6 7 11 29 31 25
9. Dunfermline 23 6 7 10 25 33 25
10. Arbroath 23 5 4 14 24 46 19

SATURDAY 24TH FEBRUARY

  Arbroath v Inverness CT

Ayr United v Raith Rovers

Dundee Utd v Queen's Park 

Morton v Airdrie   

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We threw away a two goal lead last week against Partick Thistle and ended up hanging on by a thread as Partick pushed for a late winner. Highly entertaining stuff, but disappointing to only take a point after going two ahead through Kerr and Savage. Pegged back by Fitzpatrick and a Graham penalty, Shaw then restored our lead only for Graham to volley in the equaliser with five minutes left. Frantic ending to the game, but we kept our point. Both sides feel they should have won and defences are being questioned about giving away cheap goals. At least we scored a couple in the Home end, so that's a small crumb of comfort. However, every point is a prisoner now with only twelve games left to preserve our status and we can not afford to give away preventable goals.

Inverness failed to get Max Anderson's red card rescinded and he misses the next two games. His direct replacement Roddy MacGregor has a foot injury. We have five definite crocks and five doubtful crocks, so it's back to making your own selection for this game. Here's Dunc to explain all...

It's someting like this plus the usual mirrors, smoke screens and cloak & daggers.

OUT: (Anderson, MacGregor, Lodovica, Nicolson, Mullen, Duffy)

Maybe Out: (Alex Samuel, Austin Samuels, Boyes, Shaw)

We've got injuries, haven't we>>>

 

 

Jim McIntyre's Arbroath had a battling 1-1 draw at East End Park last week after going behind in the 18th minute through Walcott. An early second half header from Tam O'Brien levelled the game and that's how it ended.

Line-up v Pars last week
Boruc
 
Gold   O'Brien   Teale   Hamilton (Walker 90+4)
 
Stewart
 
Dow   Norey (Murray 45)   Slater   Stowe (Mackinnon 45, Bird 90+7)
 
McIntosh (Robinson 45)
Subs Not Used:  Gaston; Lyon, Dunnwald-Turan

 

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We slide back, to where we rightfully should be based on our income and fanbase. Which unfortunately some seem to be unable to comprehend. We are a championship club and there are plenty around bigger than us who'd love the peak years we enjoyed - morton, Ayr, falkirk, Dunfermline etc.

Anyone who actually thinks we were ever a permiership top 6 club longterm is deluded.

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3 minutes ago, bdu98196 said:

^Big team found

WTF you smoking?

Kevin Clancy is supposed to be a Premier League ref and regularly the VAR expert - well he certainly wasn’t showing any expertise at Arbroath.  He allowed thuggish tackles which caused ICT players injuries.  He missed a studs up on Alex Samuels ankle which should have been a red card.  He missed two hand balls which should have been penalties.  If he had had words early in game re heavy tackles, some of the injuries could have been less serious.  Once again ICT let down by an incompetent referee, plus the linesmen/assistant referees should have gone to spec savers.   Well done Cameron Harper to even out at least some of the anomalies.  

Do some people really think that we are the only team on the receiving end of inept officiating and that we find ourselves where we are as a result?

8 hours ago, Yngwie said:

Don’t think anybody has said that, have they?

I didn't accuse anybody of anything.  I asked a question in order to open it up for discussion.

Given the club's social media posts from yesterday it seems to be a mindset they're trying to encourage.

As you are someone who tends towards defending/supporting all the club do are you in agreement with them?

I'm all for calling out poor refereeing, but I don't buy into the intimated (by some) conspiracy that they're out to get us.  These things tend to even out and the biggest factor in us being where we are in the league is that our football just isn't very good.

9 minutes ago, STFU said:

I didn't accuse anybody of anything.  I asked a question in order to open it up for discussion...

Looked like a rhetorical statement rather than a real question,  in direct reply to the post above it. 

@lizi's post did refer to poor officiating on numerous occasions which is up for debate but as it is the match thread then I think that's fair. We don't like to see dangerous tackling go unpunished or being encouraged at best. 

Any ICT unfair bias is also up for debate as well, my personal viewpoint is that lack of quality officials as well as the hindrance of VAR on 'top level' ones is affecting the overall standard. 

43 minutes ago, STFU said:

I didn't accuse anybody of anything.  I asked a question in order to open it up for discussion.

Tbf, when we were **** under dodds the referees were often cited along with injury crisis any time we had more than just Welsh and doran out. It seems to ba a default for many fans rather than accepting its the team, manager, coaches that are failing over 36 games not individual decisions in ever undesirable result.

Lizi's line at the end of her post saying that we had "once again" been let down by poor officiating did prompt my question, but I'd also just listened to Ferguson's post match interview and seen the twitter posts by the club yesterday which come across as an attempt to distract attention from the long term issues.

Terry Butcher was very good at getting everyone fired up on the back of any injustice, but never blamed it for our league position or cup performances etc.  He was also one to call out our own poor performances.

Under Dodds, and now Ferguson, it's all about how great the team were and lack of luck or poor decisions being what's cost us.  Deflection from the real issues.

I would say we were denied a pretty clear penalty for handball when it was 0-0, and in saying that I am not saying officials are out to get us nor am I trying to deflect from the team’s deficiencies, I’m just telling it like it is, as are others. Is that allowed?!

42 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

I would say we were denied a pretty clear penalty for handball when it was 0-0, and in saying that I am not saying officials are out to get us nor am I trying to deflect from the team’s deficiencies, I’m just telling it like it is, as are others. Is that allowed?!

Someone's getting their panties in a bit of a twist 😂

Over the season, you would expect things to balance out, so our league position after match 36 should reflect our overall performances across the season rather than any individual refereeing decision.

We can all point to refereeing decisions that went against us whilst we tend to forget those that went for us (apart from Meekings’ hand ball!) but when it happens at key points in the game and seems to affect the outcome, it is only human nature to point to it.

I’ve left games convinced we’d had wrong decisions, only to find out later that they were correct.

Officials have a difficult job and I’m sure not many of us would want it. I don’t believe any referees deliberately make wrong decisions (and I laugh at the Old Firm conspiracy theories), but some are clearly not up to the job.

As said in the posts above, it seems that poor decisions may have cost us two points on Saturday. However, Saturday’s result on its own will not determine where we finish in the league.

If we feel an injustice, we should be using that to galvanise the players to get three points tomorrow.

Edited by Robert

Nothing to do with the fact that we're all just a little bit biased?

 

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