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I hope it will get better too but I'm 100% sure we won't get any points from Aberdeen tomorrow. ;) Laurence is a divvy The coop gives us Divvy We need a dividend todayi I will be supporting a different team today, definitely not supporting ICT. "Ah well" I can put it down to old age? My 70th year But I can't because as a young man I travelled to Tranmere from Rossendale when the match was off I once went to Bury for a night match in the freezing cold , to find out the game had been played in the afternoon I had my ticket for the Chelsea v Wimbledon semi-final , I was buying my train ticket , when the booking clerk noticing my scarf said " You do know the match was this morning ; and Chelsea won and your team lost." It was a nice train journey anyway, and I got back in time to watch Murray But I am a Divvy that's for sure

I hope Meekings gives Hayes the same treatment that Golabek gave Wilson when he returned with Livi and crunch him right at the start of the game.

You're right Fraz, but with the whole Scottish Football setup so chronically disfunctional, then you can't criticise the first team manager for at least trying....as the saying goes "you can only piss with the c*ck your given" Like it or not, it doesn't matter a jot who you put in charge of Scotland at the moment, we don't have the players at present to be competing any more than we are....nor will we have them if things are allowed to continue as is. That's not Leveins fault and he is undertaking a thankless and impossible task....and he's a fool to himself if he believes any different. It's easy to look at a single game, or set of games and pick holes...but until everyone takes a step back and looks at the bigger issue and the wider problems then we'll lurch from one set of tournament qualifiers to the next with no improvement. Everywhere you turn in Scottish Football it's a mitigating disaster, and at every level. The only people to blame are the SFA, along with those who have the power to change that regime but fail to do so.

C'mon do you roasters really think the ICT board voted regarding Sevco on the back of a handful of emails from cyber fans????? I'm not usually one for siding with the board but I'm sure there was a lot more thought put into it than satisfying 30/40 odd anonymous fans that were threatening to not renew their season tickets Get a grip Dougal

Why can't Levein accept that playing Tokely and Munro would have guaranteed us the win!!!

Give it a rest, children!!! I will not be reading this post again. Give it a rest, please - posters repeating themselves time after time is just so tiresome and such a waste of time. Go to the away games and enjoy the atmosphere, the singing, the banter, the craic - phone 07951 309 504 and, if you girn, you will have a few ladies on the bus who will sort you out pronto!! Promise!

What a sour lot some of you are. This thread has not turned out too well with all the griping and counter griping. Just give the man a fair chance and can we leave it at that...please.

Now that I agree with. I am by no means advocating to sack him this minute and the next couple of months will be the most telling of how the season will pan out, and he should have the time to do that. What I would say though, is that the Highland Derby in October could well be the most important match in the history of his managerial career and should ICT be on the end of a drubbing with Munro, Tokely and Duncan running the show, then in many people's eyes his position may well become untenable.

Bughtmaster - your comment about nobody commanding the defence is spot on and one that I had'nt considered before. I feel that Ryan does not appear to be as imposing and as voiciferous an influence as he has been in the past. And we aint got anybody who probably feels experienced enough or at the club long enough to take on that role. King is probably the only one who has more proven experience and leadership qualities requisite for the role. That is another reason why I feel that Foran really stood out when he played in the "sweeper" role. It is however a very intersting and valid observation. In fact who do we have other than Foran ? I have said a lot but nobody appears to wish to challenge me and as there were some worthy posters at the game I can only suspect that they either agree or are scared of me !! You do not always have to be privy to the dressing room discussions to make observations and comments about tactics. To recap briefly - Foran was MOM by a country mile, he was often effective but the ploy was overused, with no apparent back up, and poor Richie looked fecked in the last 20 minutes; I havent noticed if we always use the no cover on the near post ploy at corners before but it was a clear tactic before and after the first goal and was being quite loudly pointed out by a number of fans at the game at the time. All I was alluding to there is that it certainly isnt a traditional tactic in fact many oldies, including maself, would frown on it. In Many ways it could be put down to Esson but that is a fair degree of goalmouth and angles that have to be covered when there is nobody standing guard at the front post. By the way the rear post was always covered and always by Shinnie; I can see the logic in double teaming Higdon but I question whether Well had been watched in regard to the danger of Humphrey. It could well be that McCall should get the credit for doing his homework on us. My main beef there was Butcher's clear faulting of Shinnie and Draper but that was brilliant wing play with a lad with a lot of pace; Heads did go down after the Raven mistake and you could feel the expectancy die in the stands; We could well have really got back in the game if not for two great saves by Randolph and a further error by A Shinnie which again produced a very well executed fourth goal. Finally I dont think Meekings is a SPL center half but he and especially Warren put in a great shift. I also thought that Raven had defended well before his error and Shinnie had recovered after a start when he was left alone to deal with Humphrey. That is why I felt that it wasnt particularly the defence that had let us down, as alluded to by Butcher, but it was more to do with the middle of the park and the tactics employed. I suppose that it also really cheesed me off that Butcher projected the blame on the players, singling some out when I feel that he should be keeping that to the dressing room and taking on - or even accepting - some of the blame himself. By the way we far from outplayed Muvversmell - we matched them for long periods.

and one from my personal family photos ...... My grandad and the co-op grocery cart !