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Given that one of the Belgian players is a convicted gang rapist, its something of a relief that the commentator didn't have to use the phrase "......and they're queueing up to score......"

What about him? he's a knob....

What a wonderful tribute to the credibility, relevance and strategic thinking of the Yes campaign! I suppose the next thing will be people painting their faces blue before chapping at doors, kissing babies and dishing out leaflets with photos of Alex Salmond. What does a comment made by someone on a football forum have to do with the Yes campaign? Get a grip you boring old fart.

The fat lady ain't even warmimg up yet. Of course it is disappointing that Scotland lost a match they should have won but if they beat Belgium and Wales beat Croatia then Scotland will only be 2 points off the top. They could be top of the group at the half way point. With a bit of luck and the team gelling better together there is no reason why they couldn't still qualify comfortably. Any side is capable of beating any other in this group and there's still 7 matches to play! With an ex ICT player in the midfield tomorrow instead of the unpleasant Brown, I fully expect a better performance and for Belgium to under-perform under the pressure of being hot favourites. It's far too early to talk about a new manager .... ...another 24 hours should be about right.

Is it actually as simple as that? It might be but do we really know? I think there is a lot of the detail that needs to be discussed and agreed as fact by both sides so that the implications of a "yes" vote can be clearly understood. I know it is agreed SNP policy that in an independent Scotland armed forces would be operated jointly with the remains of the UK. At the moment the UK is a member of NATO but would an independent Scotland automatically have membership and if not, would NATO accept the UK as a member sharing its armed forces with a non NATO member. Would a future Scottish or UK Government have the legal power to decide that they no longer wanted a joint arrangement? And how would any future shared arrangement actually work? Would Scotland and the UK be equal partners and if so, who actually will make the decision when the partners don't agree, Or would Scotland be subservient to its bigger neighbour with the result that those with the power to decide military policy for our armed forces would have absolutely no democratic accountability to the Scottish people? I'm not saying this to argue either for or against independence. All I'm saying is that it is important that the potential constitutional and operational complexities are identified and that the politicians can agree as much as possible on the facts. This is where we also need high quality journalism to explore the issues and come to evidence based conclusions. We might then be able to have informed debates about the pros and cons of the implications. I live in hope, but what I expect we will get is ill informed diatribe based on strongly held prejudices. One thing I am fairly sure about though is that the debate will be able to go ahead without the distraction of how the Scottish football team is going to fare in Brazil in 2014.

Let's be honest, the cretins at the SFA are more likely to pick Steve Kean!

That could be a result that defines our season. I was nervous about tonight because I wondered if we could string two good performances together - well, we can and it was no mean feat against the strongest C*unty side I've seen. The first half was unsustainably good - I spoke to a SFL manager who reckoned we should have been 4 or 5 up by half time. They had absolutely no answer to us. Second half, they got lucky with goal from an inept decision from an inept referee, but it was well buried by Vigurs. Doran's strike was a thing of beauty to finally tear the last wheel off the caravan. So where do we go now? Dundee should be within our grasp as an away win and Ibrox should hold no fears. as a postscript, if anyone in these here parts still maintains that they want Tokely and Munro here ahead of Meekings and Warren, you want your head examined. In addition to that, if anyone still thinks that these journeyman pro's don't care about the club, have a look at the playback or the highlights. Like Luke and ajsitc92 I reckon we could be on the verge of something here, and if you weren't there tonight you really need to get along - it won't last forever.

btw to all the guys at the game i have never heard anyone sing at a home match that i could hear on tv if i couldnt attend tonight i could hear everything a credit to all great atmosphere that is what is needed to turn tcs into a fortress

I have not missed a home match in a very long time. More friday night football please. Great atmosphere. The best for years ! Great service in a very full bar tonight prior to another brilliant performance. The stadium was buzzing. Forget about Munro and Tokely etc.....They were great servants to the club. ..... All the fans who have deserted the team in the last while should get back down and support the team because they are really impressive to watch and in my opinion the best squad of players I have seen at ITC. You dont know what you are missing ! Well done Tel and Mo !!! PS. I couldnt believe the number of County supporters who left after the third goal. Whas it something we said !!!

I'll probably be buried, but not for all that long in relation to the length of time to which a yes vote would condemn my successors to spearation. So isn't that a highly immoral and irrepsonsible argument, inciting the current generation to vote yes on the basis of claims of a short term fix and giving no thought at all to the interests of the many generations to come who would have to live with the consequences of a yes vote in 2014? It's also interesting to see that SNP "thinking" really hasn't evolved at all from the bogstandard "it's Scotland's oil" sloganising of the 70s. Meanwhile from post 37, I see we are also being invited to vote yes on the basis of oil that bauhaus' nephew "thinks" might have been discovered. What a patronising neutral BBC journalist you are. Don't let facts get in the way of a good scaremongering, will you?

Couple of points here. Firstly IF Scotland were to vote for separation, the SNP would become completely redundant because they're only, to echo Billy Connolly's reference to the "wee pretendy parliament", a "wee pretendy political party" - inasmuch as they are in effect only really a single issue pressure group and simply don't give a toss about anything apart from separation and their referendum. Absolutely everything they do and think is governed hook, line and sinker by their sole objective of a yes vote. As a result in their book the best interests of the Scottish people in their every day lives are totally secondary to the SNP's sole raison d'etre. Which brings me on to what would happen after a yes vote. There would now be no need for an SNP so politics would revert to a contest among the "real" parties whose priorities, whether you agree or disagree with them, revolve round proper mainstream politics and not the SNP's single issue. So you are back where you started - so a yes vote would change absolutely nothing in that respect. With a Scottish socialist government in Edinburgh spending revenues generated in Scotland on Scottish projects? Absolutely nothing changed, eh? Obviously I am speculating but so is every single other poster here. You have your agenda, Laurence his, I have mine and that is simply to have home rule by whomever it is. Post Independence, I initially see the SNP as a socialist party but there is a broad church in the party and it will without a doubt splinter. In that respect I believe you are right, we will end up with a similar set-up of parties to the left, right and centre but the fundamental difference is they will be parties made up with people living and working in Scotland, thereby being more accountable to the people of Scotland. Somebody also mentioned dictatorship. I really can't think of a more complete dictatorship than the SNP where all the party gofers and apparatchiks from Sturgeon downwards are all clones of Salmond (in mind if not in body )... right down to that silly patronising little giggle which he affects and which all the acolytes sycophantically copy. I sometimes struggle with the concept that you are a published journalist. Then I see the front page of the Highland News and it makes sense.

I think he means they were all camp dears.