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He gave a credible display tonight, looked good on the ball and set up Rhodes for his second. This will no doubt raise interest in him but im hoping he stays with us. When he first came here i didnt rate him and neither did a lot of others and obviously neither did Rangers (rip 1872-2012) but he has come a long long way from all that and has gone on to become one of the most promising players in the country, congratulations and well done to you Andrew, you deserve it.

Remember what one of the English Kings said when a recalcitrant priest continued to give him trouble. erg: Thomas A Becket was it not? "Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?" This reminds me of our continuing to witness the Rangers's sly moves to get their foot in the door again as soon as possible.(whatever they call themselves a rose by any other name smells the same). Never a day seems to pas but there is either a whine from them or they feature in some other controversial plan.I personallyjust wish that they would just disappear off the face of the Scottish map completely.

His movement in the first half hour looked decent, then he was moved onto his wrong side and disappeared thereafter. He was certainly no worse than just about any other player in another really poor Scotland performance.

But I think that the general consensus is that he hasnt.

As was discussed at the fans forum the other night..... We can't expect out players to be going out and playing slick passing football when they rarely get the chance to play it at club level. Until such time as we get a grip of Scottish football and start promoting the kind of game at domestic level that we want to see/demand at national level, then we'll little or no progress.

Caldwell is far and away the best central defender we have. He's captaining his side in the EPL. I don't see anyone close to that level. Not Berra, not Hanley, not Webster, not Mulgrew. I'm not saying he's world class but he's the best we've got. Who else is there capable of playing at centre-back in the EPL? Adam's another that I being criticised but, again, he's the only player we've got that can pass a ball. D.Fletcher, Brown, Morrison and Dorrans are all good hard-running players...but they can't pass a ball. Unless we play dogged defensive or long-ball, we need someone that can pass a ball 10 yards without screwing up. I don't see many contenders. We've got to realise our limitations but replacing one player with an even worse player won't get us too far.

Agree with Mr Lamont. Shinnie didn't have a great game but then again niether did the rest of the team. There was no standouts for me. Even Rhodes, although he scored, wasn't at his best. I dont know whether that game will tell the coaches much but maybe, if those players can be brought into squad training sessions with the regulars, we will see some, Shinnie included, become future regulars. Personally I think what Scotland needs to do now is get a coach in place, use the next WC games as training sessions and group for the next Euro's.

So the upshot of what I've read from most people is that if it benefits Rangers in any way, we should not do it. Talk about parochial! The biggest change we should make is a more equitable distribution of income. Is it right Celtic can bid millions and pay tens of thousands whilst the likes of Allan, Fyvie etc will move to a reserve side as two of the biggest SPL clubs can't afford a little more? Everyone says Scottish clubs (or north England clubs, if you're Alex ) should be playing youngsters, but it's impossible if they leave, like Chris Macguire, to sit in Derby's reserves at the first opportunity. Let the top clubs compete for the best players in Scotland, not the best players in the world (perhaps they're not quite at that level) at the sacrifice of the rest of the league.

Dont understand why they suggest 16-10-16 ? I havent read too much on it other than the summaries, but I assume the 16 team leagues would be 1H/1A for a total of 30 games? and the 10 league would be 2H/2A for a total of 36? Bit of a nightmare to manage fixtures there, especially if you wanted to establish another cup or something to add a few more games to bring it back up to the same sort of total as there is now. Why not just go for 16-16-16 (or 16-16 + 8-8 north/south regional for bottom tier) and invite in 6 ambitious clubs from the juniors or other leagues? Lets face it, with the exception of Gretna, every team added in the last 18 years has done pretty well, especially ICT and County, and even those that havent reached our heights have done at the very least, no worse than some of the perpetual bottom feeders that have been around for 100+ years ! However, for me, the crucial thing is not the league setup itself, but how we manage the entire game. We need a single governing body. I dont care if its the SFL, SPL or SFA, but they need to merge or two of them need to go. The SFA would be a logical choice for this role as they are the defined governing body for Scotland with both FIFA and UEFA. We need a proper pricing policy for tickets, perhaps with the governing body setting a maximum ticket price for each division. Dwindling crowds and higher prices are both cause and effect for each other. Lower crowds mean higher prices to break even for clubs, but higher prices mean lower crowds .... if we dont reverse that spiral, anything else is irrelevant. We do need to pay heed to UEFA club licensing so we do need to keep certain stadium (and other) criteria, but internally we should be a bit more lenient with clubs. If clubs want terracing in the lower leagues, great, no problem. If they want it in the higher leagues then that should be allowed too, and for those in European competition, that would have to be safe standing areas. Lets encourage clubs to develop their infrastructure, and lets remove the barriers currently in place that mean those aspiring to the SPL have to rush to develop their ground before they have even won D1 .... Give them a full season in the SPL (or equivalent) and allow them to use the increased revenue to help offset that cost. Youth development has to be one of the cornerstones of any new administrative structure. I would not go as far as to say clubs must list 'X' number of U21s in their squad, but every club should have some form of youth development as a clearly defined requirement. For smaller, lower league clubs, it may be something as simple as the club having a tie-in with local schools or youth groups and sending players to coaching sessions or holding them after school. As many players would be part-time, perhaps this could be tied in with the players themselves getting monetary or qualification credits towards recognised coaching credentials as an incentive. For more senior teams, they should have a more organised structure, perhaps their own youth team(s) playing against other club teams (in their area), and for the top tier teams, they should have a fully developed youth structure with multiple teams and ultimately it would be nice for all to have an Academy but that may be a leap. Rather than have the youth teams play and travel at weird days and times, perhaps they could also be scheduled to have a game against the same opposition as the senior side, on the same day and maybe even at the same stadium either before or after the senior match (provided its not a night game and timing is an issue). Not only would this reduce costs for separate travel, but perhaps it would increase the value for money for fans who could watch the youths play included in the price of their ticket, and would also give the youths experience of playing in proper stadia in front of fans instead of at training grounds or local parks. To pay for increased focus on youth, clubs should perhaps consider diverting a percentage of transfer income to this, and the league itself should establish a youth fund to be distributed to clubs on a yearly basis for defined projects in youth development (like establishing an academy). Eventually, the youth setup would be self financing for some clubs as good young players would emerge and be sold on, with some of the money going back into the coffers to develop the next set of youths .... My final suggestion is likely to get a torrent of derision .... but perhaps the league should also consider a salary cap ??? Clubs in each division would have a ceiling they could not go above, and have to manage their squad within that ceiling. Clubs who wish to go above the cap (eg Celtic and Rangers no doubt) would be allowed to do so (within reason) but would have to divert an additional fee equivalent to a significant percentage of that overspend directly to the league. that money would be used to help fund the aforementioned youth development as well as distributed to other clubs as "equalisation" payments ..... levelling the playing field a little bit as it were. My last two suggestions (Youth Development and Salary) come almost directly from MLS. A league which imploded once already and which, this time round, decided to control growth to a slow and steady pace by managing costs and trying to ensure no teams were able to outspend each other to become a dominant force (although LA and NY seem to be allowed to do whatever they want, but thats another story). In MLS you must have an academy or you dont get in. Toronto FC had 6 academy graduates in their squad last year with 2 or 3 of them winning international caps or junior international caps and those same 2 or 3 being regulars in the side on merit. Although player contracts in MLS are owned by the league not the clubs, if these players are ever sold to a team outside MLS, TFC will retain a significant portion of the fee but must use a lot of it for youth development or infrastructure improvements..... Rangers actually paid for TFC to rip up the original artificial turf at BMO Stadium and replace it with grass ... all from the proceeds of the sale of Maurice Edu to them ! In terms of salary, the MLS system is hard to fathom, but there is a cap and you cannot go above that. you can sign up to three 'designated players' above the cap with only $350,000 counting towards your cap and the rest being paid by the club (Beckham and Thierry Henry both get about $5m for example and even Barry Robson got $600K for half a season) but if you do sign a third DP, then you also have to pay a substantial fee to the league that is distributed to clubs where the owners may not be so rich and cannot afford to pay for high salary DPs ... an equalisation payment in other words. Seems to work here, so with a bit of tinkering, perhaps it could be one of the checks and balances Scottish Football could use to get itself back on its feet again ?

You should put that on a banner.

I could not agree more what is the world coming to? I hope we will still get freedom to post the banter on this site at least you can get a good laugh at some of the posts which cheers you up after reading the other doom and gloom in the news!

The only thing colt teams will do is increase the stranglehold that Rangers and Celtic have when it comes to stealing fans away from supporting their local teams. It would do more to kill the game in Scotland than anything we have seen to date.

Frankly I think the proposal is completely outrageous. Giving a competetive platform only for OF 2nd teams in the SFL would give them a huge advantage both in terms of competetive games for their 2nd string and in terms of additional income. If reserve teams are to play in a competetive environment (and I think they should), we either have a reserve league or other leagues should be open to reserve teams from the national league structure so that there is an opportunity for all should they wish to avail themselves of it. This just shows that despite Rangers having disgraced Scottish football, their influence within the ruling elite of Scottish football remains as insiduous as ever.

Well that was straightforward enough.

Every Single player was wearing one.....