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There are others, in the same boat as me, who have joined the board to try and move things forward but have found they are fighting a losing battle with people currently on the board or recently departed. There's been a very unhealthy attitude that just because things are done with (apparent) good intention, then they should not be questioned or criticised. The phrase "it was done in good faith" has, and still gets thrown around a lot by members of the society board. It's a term that has it's place and it's even legislated for within the society rules....doing something in good faith and getting it wrong is when you find yourself having to make a snap decision and don't get it quite right, or when you operate on the basis of something being done historically, only to find it wasn't perhaps the correct way to be doing it. Showing deliberate disregard for the rules just because you don't like them or they don't fit with your motives or even because you don't understand them....or don't know them, even though you have been a director for a number of years....is not acting in good faith, it's incompetent and irresponsible. On no less than 11 occasions during the AGM on Tuesday, the person chairing the meeting stated that they could not answer a question or clarify a situation because they did not know the society rules. They used the excuse that they were not due to be the person chairing the meeting....and you could have perhaps excused that, except....they have served on the board for around 10 years so have had ample opportunity to familiarise themselves with the rules, even the change to rules in 2012. They didn't seem to know what rules the society is suppose to actually be operating under and were talking about registering changes that hadn't even been before and voted on by a general meeting of the members!! What's more, the same person chaired the last AGM in February 2016* and on a number of occasions during that they also failed to answer questions and points of ordered with the excuse that they did not know the society rules. Let's get one thing absolutely clear here....if this society is shut down, and it's a very real risk if the Financial Conduct Authority (who are their regulator) believe it is not operating as it should, then the fan's 10% voting right is gone...forever. It doesn't transfer to anyone else, it disappears. It only exists so long as the 108 shares to which it is attached are held by the Inverness Caledonian Thistle Supporters Society Limited. If you think something needs to be done, you're damn right it does. The society members need to stand up and make sure this is not allowed to continue.....and I suggest you all start by ensuring that you do not allow the current board to proceed with their plans to cancel over 700 memberships without having made proper contact with the entire membership base....they tried to tell those at the AGM that the society now only has 65(?) members. Thankfully those in attendance did not accept that and the board agreed to keep those memberships active until the end of the current financial year (May 2018). If trying to battle the above makes me (and others also trying to battle it) moaning minnies...then where do I pick up my badge? *The AGM held on Tuesday was due to have taken place before the end of 2016, so was over 11 months late in taking place. They couldn't even produce minutes for the EGM held in April 2016 to sort out the mess from the AGM 2 months earlier.

Ok, how do we do this? and what if anything can CTO do to help or support those trying to get it done. A 10% voting stake in the club cannot be allowed to disappear in a puff of smoke just like that and CJT needs to be the voice of all fans not just for a few select members. For my own part, heres how I reckon we might be of some assistance on CTO if CJT does indeed begin to rebuild itself from the foundations up./ We are happy to give people a platform to discuss CJT on here or to promote it. (already offered it) We are happy to establish the 'groups' function within our software to give them whats in effect a website within a website (or to help them get their own back up and running) if required. (already offered it) We are happy to host and distribute membership forms and applications through our downloads section (or the aforementioned groups section). (already do that) If possible (need to check) we are also happy to add membership applications to the shop for purchase on here ... where payment can go direct to CJT and not through CTO (assuming they have at least a paypal setup) Much like the comments about our chairmen in another thread, this is a situation where egos, parochialism, or personal control issues need to be put aside and cannot be allowed to negatively affect the body that the people involved have signed up to show good governance for on our behalf. I know CaleyD and Davie are very forthright and direct, and that bluntness may rub a few people up the wrong way at times, but both of them have shown on numerous occasions with their roles in the ICT arena that they have skillsets we could do with sorting this out. Caleyboy - you have also asked some very pertinent questions at the most opportune moments and I am sure there are many others who could bring something to the table, or to the discussion.

I fear you might wait some time. As far as I know, the only remaining Board Members are Liz MacRae (Chairperson) and Laura Grant (who chaired the last two AGM's) Cliff Sim was elected on the night. Laura intimated her intention to resign at the AGM and must now go, so there is effectively no Board. The AGM was a farce, I'm not going to dwell on it as Caley D has covered it adequately. What has happened here is that the were members of that Board who are wholly responsible through their actions and inactions for the situation that has transpired. Liz must be wondering what she got herself into. 65 members? I know of at least that number who they couldn't be bothered to contact. We need to build bridges with the club, right now. We need to build bridges with the social club, right now. We need to adequately deal with the issues within the support (young team etc.) and communicate to the outside world. We need to sort CJT administratively and make it accountable to the membership. The situation whereby a membership can be reduced from 700 to 65 without telling them simply as a means of forcing an agenda can't be allowed to recur. As with all orgnisations of it's size, there's a small body of activists that serve a larger membership but more need to help out. I'm up for it.It's an important time for CJT and I hope that others can join us to take it forward.

Don't get too excited. Sounds too much like the Brexit deal to me.

Put on an extra layer and take a hot water bottle it will be colder on Tuesday night

I totally agree. I have been watching football in Inverness for nearly 50 years and I have never sat through weather like we did at the St. Mirren game. We had so many layers on and it still wasn't enough, so we contemplating our clothing for tomorrow just when we heard the game was off. Let's hope it's better for Tuesday.

Must be old age but I have to say after the suffering the elements at the St Midden game I was not looking forward to it again tomorrow.

Singing Christmas carols .

Re-arranged to Tue, expect a poor turn out which will affect club income. Would it not be sensible to have tried to arrange it for the midweek between xmas & new year as there is no game planned? Even if it was an evening then 26th or 27th folks might be off work and more willing to travel or head along. Sensible decision calling off early but poor decision on the new fixture date IMO

Don't see the point of calling the game off prematurely if there's a possibility it could go ahead. Isn't it a British cliché not to trust the weatherman? Wasn't that long ago we faced East Fife in the Scottish Cup at Telford Street in similar conditions, IIRC fans who volunteered to scoop the snow off the pitch got a free ticket for the game. Undersoil heating, a dedicated group of kids with shovels, an orange ball and Bobs your Uncle. An early morning inspection before away fans start their journey is a good compromise IMO.

Thanks CD that’s probably the clearest explanation about it all I’ve read on this thread and I understand it better now. Apologies for the moaning Minnie’s tag seems like it’s quite a mess

Just a thought. A lot of complaints against cjt, instead of moaning why not be pro active and join the board/committee to help them out. My experience with any kind of committee is that everybody moans and whinges at them yet are unwilling to put the time and effort into helping them Thankless task

Long and short of it.....the society is currently in abeyance due to having insufficient board members. An EGM will be held at some point in the future (no timescale was given) to rectify this and bring it back into proper operating order.

It's all about making the supporters feel like they're part of the club, or an integral part of the whole ICT experience. I don't feel this has been the case for many years now.

Row S will have to do his Christmas shopping

It's more than an old boys club/old mates society this club needs now. I'm sure he will talk a lot of sense but I don' see him having any influence

On the wind-up I'm sure, IHE, but you do presumably mean all 6,000 of the 226 who were eventually assembled in the cause of dissent 23 years ago?