
Huisdean
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Enjoyable response from the team after going 2 goals down, where was this spirit and desire earlier in the season?. St. Mirren were a yard sharper and had greater movement than us in the first half but we made them look good at times with poor distribution giving the ball away and poor organisation at the back leaving us vulnerable on the break. Midfield was poor giving our forwards no service. First penalty was a clear penalty but not so sure about the second. Thought the players looked a bit leg weary as well. Second half we started better and were growing into the game when the referee intervened again. Both the chap sitting next to me, Bobby Wilson (Barry's father) and I thought the ref was booking the St. Mirren player for diving but astonished when he booked Trafford and gave a free kick against him. To compound things, it looked like the free kick also took a slight deflection before going in off the post. Didn't see us coming back but getting the first goal seemed to lift the team and their sense of grievance against the referee probably helped. Now to the referee. No excuses for the first penalty as Donaldson was culpable. Second, to me looked like a push on our player so doubtful one for me. Clear penalty when Doran tripped, Vigurs clearly held in or just outside the box with nothing given and Daniel McKay looked like he could have been quite easily fouled for another penalty. The St Mirren no 11 constantly fouled throughout the game, often cynical fouls but no booking. Trafford booked for his alleged foul which led to the second goal but when Donaldson cynically fouled when bursting forward, no booking for the St Mirren player just highlighted how poor the referee was at times. In fairness to him, St Mirren players were looking for fouls all the time and going down with minimal contact and he didn't but it most of the time. Maybe if he booked these players, then this might have stopped but referees are so inconsistent with booking players for simulation. Would have been good to win seeing how other results went today but as others have said, there is the nucleus of a team there and we need to build on it.
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I think Charles hits the nail on the proverbial head on this. If CJT ever gets functioning properly again, then they could play a huge role in getting better communication between club and fans and it is much easier for the club to communicate on the bigger issues with one supporters body. I have no issues with the club pursuing any other avenues of communication such as Facebook etc but for major issues, having a representative supporters body is a must. Was not at Perth and have no knowledge of any incident but we do have an element of fans who are, frankly, a disgrace and who appear to want to become our version of casuals. I have no issues with the club statement what so ever and some of the criticism of the board on here is embarrassing. If people think they can do better, then try to get on the board and change things which brings me back to CJT.........
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Couldn't attend yesterday due to ill health so had to suffer coverage on BBC Alba. Obviously not a great game but we won FFS. The continuing negativity from some posters is just incredible. Sure it has not been a great season but we now have to finish as high up in the league as possible and properly prepare for next season. In hindsight, the relegation may have been just what we needed to get boardroom changes and a fresh start to trying to move the club onwards.
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It does seem the club is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't on this. Some fans okay with what is happening and others obviously displeased. There does seem to be an air of constant negativity over many posts these days, much of it stemming from, in my opinion, unrealistic expectations of some fans. We are where we are this season, need to avoid relegation, which I am confident we will, and put in place a team and plan for next season. The current board has to be given a bit of time to sort this out as they are picking up the pieces from poor management at every level within the club including promoting occasions like this. A bit off topic in places I know so apologies.
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While not a direct answer to your question Charles, I do think we need to start rearing more of our own players and give them a chance. This is something we have never truly done, maybe the players haven't been good enough although I personally think not all of them got the chances they deserved. Rearing our own players and then, hopefully selling them on for a profit, has to be part of the way forward for us.
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Large but not necessarily good enough
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Agree with your first sentence as Kilmarnock fans and team being forced to travel to Aberdeen in worse conditions. With regard to your second sentence, this is totally uncalled for in my opinion but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.
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There are probably many supporters who would consider joining or assisting CJT but are simply being put off by the actions of the CJT board. While a family bereavement is hugely upsetting, the reason you have a board is that others can step in when required. CJT seem bereft of any understanding of why their role is so important. There is certainly also some blame to be attached to fans not getting involved previously, myself included, but there does appear to be a genuine upsurge in interest which CJT should be encouraging, not ignoring.
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Looking at how easy it is to get booked by referees these days, and the inconsistency shown by them (persistent fouling by Harkins yesterday but no booking, blatant dive by a Morton player, acknowledged by the ref but no booking when we have had at least two players booked in recent games for allegedly diving, albeit in the penalty area), much more difficult to keep 11 players on the pitch these days. We certainly haven't helped ourselves this season though.
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If we want the team to have a chance to succeed next season, price has to be the same to try and maintain the level of income coming into the club. Dropping the price will not lead to an increase in season ticket sales as it has been proven that reducing the ticket prices for certain games does not equate to a larger attendance. We need to try and generate more interest amongst the public in Inverness but given the lack of support from them in the past, I am at a loss as to how to do that.
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I said to my mate at half time that a performance like that summed up our season so far, make a lot of chances but don't take them all and looked poor defensively ( a better team than Crusaders would have scored in the first half). Then came the second half which must have been simply one of the worst I have witnessed at the stadium. Crusaders sussed us out where our weak spots were and targeted these to great success and we could do nothing in response. Why the players or management couldn't generate a response is worrying as if we play like this on Saturday, we will lose and struggle to make the play offs. As has been mentioned by several posters, McKay is not a full back and was a major weak spot yesterday. He needs to be moved back to central defence with Warren being dropped. Who then plays at right back is hard as Seedorf was poor yesterday, goal saving tackle apart, as was caught ball watching continuously leaving their winger with acres of space to run into. Something that could have been easily fixed but wasn't. Warren is getting continually beaten for pace and is a liability unless you play someone with pace behind him (like Meekings used to do) but I would drop him as we were at our best defensively when McKay and Donaldson were the pairing. Warren also got out of jail big time when he conned the referee into giving a foul when he let himself get beaten by the Crusaders forward who would have been clean through on goal otherwise. I do think Warren needs to be stripped of the captaincy as well. He, to me, provides little leadership on the park and seems unable to manage/reorganise things on the park when required. Midfield disappeared in the second half with Vigurs looking to have run out of legs. He wasted 2 free kicks in good positions as well. Polworth was good up to a point but his final ball is so often wasteful which is so frustrating. He also seemed to have a bee in his bonnet yesterday with constant complaints to the ref and Crusaders players and he was lucky not to be booked before he was. His booking was also needless as the game was won and he should simply have walked away. As for Chalmers, he just disappeared when we needed him to help out defensively when under pressure. That said, I thought the referee was poor in the second half and looked out of his depth and let the game develop into a nasty one at times. His first booking for McKay was nonsense and bookings thereafter became a lottery with some bad tackles being punished and some not. McKay's second booking was justified but the ref seemed to be letting it go until Crusaders players kept at him to book McKay and send him off. Either way, sheer stupidity from McKay. At the penalty, a Crusaders player clearly lifted his hands and pushed one of our players and this continued in the middle of the park with the referee oblivious at first to what was happening. The referee lost control of the game through his own actions in not being stronger with the players and Crusaders certainly cottoned onto this. Anyway, through to the final and that's the important thing.
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I do think we have to be careful into reading too much into the figures reported in the statement and from comments from the armchair accountants on social media. Undoubtedly we are suffering financially by being in the Championship and our crowds have taken a worrying sharp decrease, possibly due to the lack of travelling support from most Championship clubs. However, as usual, the general public of Inverness seems to have deserted the club when it most needs them. Some will argue that is the fault of the club given the poor start to the season, some poor on field performances etc but if we want the club to survive and prosper again, then we have to turn out. I am probably of a generation of fans who will turn out regardless but we seem to be becoming the minority in terms of supporters.
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Sadly, this all just goes to show the level of mismanagement by previous boards. I know the current board is trying to turn things around and are probably the most business orientated board we have had. Let's all hope we can turn HMS Sneck around and sail into a bright future.
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And your point is............?
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Matchday Thread Inverness CT -V- Dundee Utd ***GAME OFF
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I believe this was down to consultation with management, physios and players in that they would benefit from some time off. May be counter productive but only time will tell.- 23 replies
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While Daniel Mackay was impressive when he came on, it must be remembered that he is only 16 and still at school. An excellent impact sub but too much to expect him to start every week against some of the more robust defending we see in the Championship. Not a great game from either side and not much in it until the goal. Think the foul on Doran was definitely a penalty and the booking for simulation was ridiculous. Overall the refereeing was poor again and some of the tackles put in on Oakley that went unpunished were unbelievable including one where the Dundee player had him grabbed around his neck!. Our passing was poor and it was a poor pass, by Calder I think, that led to the breakaway for Dundee's goal. We also defend poorly when we have a corner as poor delivery led to several breakaways by Dundee which could, and probably should, have been more costly. The players we leave back seem incapable of defending so we should look at keeping 1/2 of our regular defenders back. I also think the right back position needs to be looked at. Brad is not a right back although he tries hard. His distribution is poor, as is his crossing and we lose out on good attacking positions as a result. Personally I would move him back to central defence and drop Garry Warren. I think we look much more solid with Brad and Donaldson as central defenders. If we are going to play Warren, then someone has to tuck in behind him as anyone with pace takes him out of the game.
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Virtually every booking on BBC text is for a bad foul so poor is their reporting.
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But we have had some of the top officials and they have been equally as bad. For example, Craig Thompson against Dundee Utd and John Beaton at least twice. Being in the second tier should not mean second class refereeing for any team.
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That's exactly what the Vigurs incident was, book both players to avoid controversy instead of having the balls to do the correct thing. Poor poor refereeing.
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While agreeing he has improved as the season has gone on, I thought he was the poorest player, along with Brad Mackay for us yesterday. he needs to learn to tackle, move the ball quicker and work on his defensive skills. All things that can be improved by coaching and hard work.
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Matchday Thread Inverness CT -V- Queen of the South
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Not a great deal more to add to what has already been said. Good overall performance and a deserved win for us despite another really poor refereeing performance. Is it too much to ask that they understand what is and is not a foul and the fact that a card does not automatically have to be brandished. Some concerns however, that on another day could have come back to haunt us. We should have been out of sight in this game but do miss some good chances, Second half performances do seem to take a dip with alarming frequency and we try to play way too much football at times in defence which could have cost us at least two goals yesterday but we got away with it. If we win, then these don't matter but we rode our luck to a certain extent yesterday but we were certainly due some luck this season.- 78 replies
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Totally deserved victory last night and how Falkirk managed to score 6 against Dundee Utd is beyond me as they were poor last night. All played well and it shows the difference when Vigurs plays as he keeps the play moving and we are a better team for that. While Polworth did okay last night, that is something he, and Chalmers need to do more. Fear the loss of Vigurs due to suspension will come back to haunt us in the next two games. As I said in a previous post, we have the nucleus of a team here and, while it has taken a little time to gel, you can see some players now starting to get up to speed in this league. It must be remembered that many of the new signings had played little or no first team competitive football before joining us so a big learning curve. And now to the referee. Some posters have said we need to lose/stop the perceived complex that we are getting a raw deal from referees. I think last night indicated otherwise as the referee and linesmen, especially the far side linesman were very poor. Of our 4 bookings, Warren and Chalmers were justified but Oakley's was not as he was caught by the keeper in my opinion. Even if the referee did not think the keeper caught him, he did not deliberately dive. Again, how many times have we seen similar situations this season where no action taken by the referee. Oakley should also have had a penalty in the second half where he was blatantly held and the referee and standside linesman could not have missed it but still no penalty. In fact Oakley was fouled continually throughout the game with nothing given by the referee. Falkirk were a bit cute in there were a few off the ball incidents which went unpunished and Bell got some rough treatment, and zero protection from the ref. Finally, to compound the poor officiating, Falkirk's goal was well offside, probably not given as the linesman did not keep up with play but even he should have seen it would have been impossible for the Falkirk players to be in the position they were without being offside. Given that he also missed another clear offside earlier, when Falkirk should have scored, then you can see that the officials could have altered the game substantially. I fully appreciate that being a referee is difficult but they do make it difficult for themselves at times by getting so many basic decisions wrong. Incidentally, was sitting next to someone whose two friends were visiting him from England and they could not believe how poor the officials were last night.
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May have been warranted (debateable in my view) but no need to issue one when game almost finished and no danger of Falkirk winning. Some common sense is required and there is no requirement for referee to book him but just another opportunity for that clown of a ref to show his authority. How many times have we seen teams indulge in blatant time wasting with no action taken and then Polworth gets booked for this!!.
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Not saying there is any bias against us by referees but do think we have been more harshly treated by referees in the games I have seen this season. Other teams appear more streetwise than us (this happened in the Premier league as well) and referees are being conned by this. You could argue that this is the players fault but referees need to be aware of this. The biggest bugbear for me however is the inconsistency of referees and until they can resolve this, and it is in their gift to do this, they will continue to get criticised.