Sir C the 3rd

I think we all know he's going, does it really matter to what club at the end of the day? If he wanted to stay, as with Adam Rooney and countless others the contract would already be signed months ago, let alone before he went on holiday. Not surprised if it does turn out to be Aberdeen either, off the pitch a bigger club than us and moving to a new 20 odd thousand stadium in a couple of years time. I can see why he'd be tempted, even if on the pitch their pretty much on par with us just now.

"institution"

I would imagine the real reason Butcher wants to get rid of Tokely is that he's being paid too much. We have a tiny budget and Tokely has been here for what seems like forever and is probably one of the highest wage earners at the club. With Tokely approaching (sadly) the end of his career I presume he wants to put Tokelys wages elsewhere, maybe to Jonny Hayes or some other new signings. He's the manager and has to take tough descisions wether we think they are right, wrong or yet another ludicrous conspiracy theory. Make no mistake Tokely is an absolute legend and always will be, but we have to let him go sometime soon unfortunatly and probably cant justify the wages he's probably been used too ......... on the conspiracy angle, if he wanted rid of him so much, then why has he offered him new contracts before and another one this time? Seems a bit silly to me that he would be desprately plotting this elaborate sequence of events to get rid of him.

I'm not renewing my season ticket if Rangers are in the league with no sanctions. Thats near 20 years i've had one, but like I say theres no point to SPL football if they're allowed in. Its a league where cheating goes unpunished, what Rangers have done I would consider chucking them out of football alltogether, its completely against the ethos of football!!! But not in Scotland, back into the SPL with a token 10 points off. Absolutley disgraceful. Clach might be seeing my money till ICT are back in the lower leagues....... at least the SFA have shown some balls by sticking to their origional punishment for them, thats a good start

After last nights revelations on FC Dignity, if they're not punished appropriatley by the SPL then thats it for Scottish Football. Fans in there thousands will start turning away and Celtic and FC Dignity will be whipping part-time teams every week. The SPL was bordering on farcical anyway with their woefully misjudged distribution of the TV money and the ludicrous rules for entry and voting structure. (making County spending in excess of £1,000,000 pounds in this climate is crazy)..... but FC Dignitys years of cheating and stealing players basically goes without punishment then the league is pointless, the other teams are not being allowed to prosper.

totatlly agree with the above post. I've been paying full price season tickets for 16 years and not once had a discount. Was basically kicked out of my seat last season to accommodate the singing.... sorry i mean kids standing section and went over to the main stand and paid more without complaining. I'm not asking much, the discount above would be a nice touch!

Does anyone have a link to the 5-2 game v arbroath or any other games from the 1st season in the 3rd division. I remember we were on tv quite a bit that 1st year but haven't seen the games for years.

esson Meekings Williams Golobart Gillet Proctor Tudor Jones Foran G.Shinnie Sutherland Tade Keep it tight at the back and hope to get something on the break with the 2 big boys up front. Ditch the 4 2 3 1 as half the players dont seem to be involved...... Tansey, has he touched the ball this season?

Always some sort of major conspiracy going on in the backround for some posters.

Another terrible performance but whats new. I can't remember the last time i've looked forward to/enjoyed going to a game. There is little to no quality on the field (from either side), the atmosphere is beyond bad and the price to get in is a mind boggling £25 or £27 or whatever it is. Its the same at most SPL clubs, no wonder fans from every team are turning away in their thousands. The product does not justify the cost and its only going to get worse and worse. The game is dying in Scotland

Terry Butcher???? More chance of JOHN Terry getting the job !!!! Also 'Sorted', one of the funniest replies i've read on the site, agree completely!

It gives me no pleasure to say but I would be amazed if Hayes stays. Even if they did lump in £50k extra into what they were going to pay him, i'm sure he'll still get a better deal elsewhere. The only reason he'll stay is if Butcher convinces him that he could still develop further here. I can't see that happening either. To be fair to Jonny though, I think he deserves to go onto better things and i'm sure we'll find someone to replace him.

I'm sure he can make the 'step' up, even if the Bradford fans think he's a bit of a mullet!

hypothetically a potential new stand could be payed for if it was small and it was actually working for the club. In that i mean like with other clubs the stand for football isnt the main part of it. On a Saturday 20 times a year yes, but basically an office block or student accomodation or gym etc with seats and a roof built onto part of it. Now obviously that is never going to happen because 1. the club have no vision for it 2. we would have no money to build it in the first place, regardless of the potential monies returned and 3. this gas pipe line (which somehow no-one considered when building the thing in the first place) When built in 1997 there won't have been many that weren't impressed with the stadium, but now times have changed. Kind of what like what has happened with Inverness as a town, the look of the stadium has been sacrificed for capacity, which is a shame as there is no atmosphere whatsoever, both down to the same man...... but a move to a new ground would be good but i just cant see how that is going to happen any time soon either, so looks like we'll be down the longman with no 3rd stand for the forseeable. As with being left behind by County...... don't be silly, they will always be the 2nd team in the Highlands!!

I didn't even think Gillet fouled their striker. I thought he just got his body inbetween him and the ball and if anything he was fouled. Only seen it in real time though, the replay will clear it up. But once again the players looked astounded that he'd been sent off

I think its going to be unlikely that Jones is going to return any time soon.

For once i agree totally with IHE and have a green dot as well sir!

The home fan being a Lithuanian sprinter!

I'm really getting bored of this and its spoiling the game now. The non-stop cheating,diving and constant feigning of injury is just pathetic now. It seems players go out now with the intention of getting players booked and red carded. To me thats not what football should be about, its about scoring goals and entertainment, not grown men (some millionaires) throwing themselves to the ground with the meerest of touches. If Fifa/Uefa want to improve the game sort this out now. Its not even just Samaras, Celtic were at it all over the place on Saturday, Kayal, Stokes and Majstorovic just to name a few. Plus Murphy at Motherwell, McGowan at St Mirren, Cardle for Dunfermline and who could forget the disgraceful way Chris Maguire went down last season after getting a little push from Grant Munro. The last one technically a red card, but wouldn't even have been a booking without Maguire going down. Its worldwide now and the governing bodies seem to be encouraging it rather than stamping it out.

easy Wilson Mann Sheerin

If things are that bad that the manager and assistant have to turn to the internet forum for tactical advice from people sitting behind their computers, then yes immediatley sack them. In my opinion and without namecalling, this thread is beyond ridiculous

Laughable

Dunfermline should have won easily but dont let that fool anyone that they're a good team. They were utter garbage as well, but far superior to us. Today was Brewster-esque football. To many players completely anonymous, Tansey, Nick Ross (going backwards as a player) and Proctor (will he ever learn to foul outside the box). Andrew Shinnie and Davis did well, but Davis is away in January so god help us!! To be fair I thought Rosscoe was really good too. If we don't improve in the next few weeks we are going down, absolutley no question. Totally disjointed, totally unorganised we look a total shambles!

Cowdenbeath 3.v.4 ICT 1996? Ross County 1.v.3 ICT 1996? ICT 7.v.3 Ayr Utd 2000? Celitc 1.v.3 ICT 2001 obviously ICT 0.v.3 Rangers 1996 scottish cup quarter final

1. Stewart 2. Wyness (first spell) 3. Rooney 4. Mclean 5. Thomson