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OK Andy, listen up and listen up good 'cos I ain't gonna say this again. Birmingham! WTF! Adam went there a couple of years ago and now struggles to get a place on the bench at Swindon. Just what is the attraction? Ah! Money! I can understand that the Blues are offering a lot more than ICT and that's attractive when a playing career is so short. But it's not that short. Ask Adam what he's been offerred next year. Not half as much as you I'll bet and that's what'll be offerred to you in a couple of years after warming the bench at a club that has no hope of winning anything and where players are not much in the public eye. ICT can't offer you as much money next year but it's more than may players are getting. But they can offer you a lot more than just the money. For a start you'll be playing in the top flight of a national league and perhaps also in a European competition. That will increase the profile of the team and all the players. But next year promises so much. With several top players signed up already and with your former mates in blue still in the football wilderness, there is a tremendous opportunity for this team to develop and be a real contender for a clear second place next year. Who knows, a place in a cup final or even better is a distinct possibility if you all stick together! What's that you say? Sounds good but you need the money? Hold on, I was just coming to that. You've been offered quite a bit more just now but if you stay in Inverness and continue to develop then the long term prospects will be much better. If you are seen as the creative attacking midfield general of a successful ICT next year and get a dozen or so goals for good measure, then you'll have a lot better teams than B'ham Sh*tty looking to sign you. You'll be a sought after young man. You'll have the double benefit of enjoying another great year in Inverness with regular first team games together with a much better deal with a club with real prospects in the season to follow. What's not to like about that? What's that? You'll stay? Good lad, you'll not regret it!

Playing that oval ball game on a football pitch is like putting lemonade into a 25 year old malt. As I drove past the hallowed turf on my way home from work today my heart sank as I saw the abomination of rugby posts thrusting up into the early evening sky. The TCS is no place for these rucking scrumbags.

The thing about his headed goals there is his composure and the deliberate and accurate placement of the ball. Lots more to come methinks. Great signing.

If we win a European place then it will be an early start to the season and we will need to be at our best if we are to get through one or even two rounds. The more of the current squad we can retain the better the chance of this so recent contract signings are really good news. Hopefully they, and the prospect of a wee European adventure will persuade other key players to sign up for at least another year. There is the makings of a team that could come a clear 2nd next season.

As usual we have a total over-reaction from Man U about a decision which went against them. Let's look at the facts. Nani had his eyes firmly on the ball and lifted his foot to control the ball. There was absolutely no intent to foul. There does not need to be any intent in order to send a player off for what is deemed by the referee to be reckless or dangerous play. Whilst Nani had his eyes firmly on the ball he should still have had an awareness of players round about him. Before the ball was played he would be looking around and would know roughly where players were and he really must have been aware that a Real player would also go for the ball. Nani was turning away from his line of sight with his foot raised chest high and it is not unreasonable for the referee to consider that as reckless. The referee sees the incident just the once in real time. It looks on the reply as though Nani maybe caught the Real player high on the arm and not in the chest despite the chest clutching and rolling around, but really that is irrelevant in terms of the decision against Nani. If it was deemed to be reckless, it was reckless wherever it happened to catch the opposing player. He may have caught the player on the arm or the chest but it could just as easily been his throat. In mitigation, it is clear that Nani was attempting to control the ball with his foot rather than kicking it and therefore the consequence of any contact with the opposing player would be significantly less than it might have been. In other words, the incident will have looked worse than it actually was. In my view their can be no doubt that at least a yellow card was warranted and whilst I think a red card was maybe harsh, I can understand why the referee made the decision. Man U were possibly hard done by but these things happen and they just have to get on and deal with it. And whilst there can perhaps be a little sympathy for them over the decision, there can be absolutely none for the way they behaved afterwards. Firstly, whilst they are blaming the decision for changing the game, I think that is actually not the case. They lost to two very good goals. The first by Modric was a magnificent strike and the second soon after was a well worked goal - neither were a consequence of being over-run being a man over. Ferdinand applauding the referee right in his face at the end and other players pointedly refusing to shake his hand at the end was simply pathetic as was Ferguson's petulant refusal to speak to the media afterwards. I for one sincerely hope they have some sanctions imposed against them for that as to my mind that sort of behaviour brings the game into disrepute.

Must be Barrowman's wages.

Why would you tell a player from Pakistan to feck off back to Canada?

I sort of agree with you, but the point about the unnatural position is that the player deliberately places his arms in a position where the ball is more likely to hit, and so whilst the ball may hit the hand or arm, there remains a deliberate intention in the action. It is important to have that clarification otherwise, as suggested above, you could have defenders at corners or free kicks with their hands (or one of them at any rate!) above their heads. Apparently Cardinal O'Brien had his hand in an unnatural position and now he's paying the penalty - although in his case it appeared to be a clear case of hand to ball.

How about having a read of http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm Obviously not deliberate. He's charging the ball down and turns away to avoid injury so that he's facing the opposite direction. Is his arm in an unnatural position? Possibly for a brief moment but entirely consistent with the turn he's making. There is no deliberate holding of his arm in an unnatural position to increase the chance of the arm blocking the ball. Did it even hit his arm? Probably not as the ball made a very solid sound and then bounced away in the opposite direction to what it would have done had it hit the arm. Not a penalty in a million years.

Having seen the highlights there is no way that is not a foul. I'm not sure you could actually go down deliberately like that if you tried. It's right on the line and whilst it should be a penalty I can can understand a referee not awarding a penalty but awarding a free kick right on the edge of the box instead. As someone else said, the referee should be sure before awarding a penalty so a free kick would have been a fair decision. Adams was going on about County being denied a penalty when Lawson shot struck Meekings. Complete nonsense.

2 goals from Sutherland as well. See, he can score. He's going to be a real asset when he finds his scoring boots at first team level.

Stonewall penalty IMHO But then, I wasn't able to get to the game

With the interest it would bring, could we afford not to?

We'll need to play better than that against County. Tonight was 2 pretty evenly matched sides with Utd just edging it for me. A fair bit passing it across the pitch and running across the pitch, then stopping and running back from where they had just come from. Nothing like the penetration of earlier in the season. Often seemed rather devoid of ideas. There's a nervousness about the play which they need to get out their system. Not the performance of a team that is 2nd in the league - which is why we aren't 2nd in the league any more. Just glad not to have lost, I guess. I've never been particularly impressed by A Shinnie but I felt he was the best in midfield / attack by a country mile tonight. Devine and Meekings looked solid at the back

Maybe it's just me? I wouldn't swap any of our cup record. I think we have created 12 upsets in 11 years in the lower leagues. Two semis at Hampden plus a replay. Beating Celtic twice. The first time was 10 years before Cownty and it was our first ever season in div 1. More wins at Tynecastle, Fir Park etc. Coming from 3 down to beat Ayr. Reaching the quarters as a div 3 side. Taking DUFC to 210 mins as a div 2 side. Swap all this for what? One cup run beating Hibs and Celtic to reach a final, and then forgetting to turn up. Don't think there's a conflict of opinion. I never suggested I would swap our cup history for theirs and I certainly wouldn't - but that doesn't stop it wrankling that they have got to a final and we haven't.

I was thinking the same as the OP. But I think I have to be philosophical here. This time last season the team was playing very poorly and County were running away with the 1st Division. We were fearful of how poor the side would be with some of our better players heading out the door at the end of the season and the general view was that County would probably do significantly better than us in the coming season. Given their recent run, they are now doing better than anyone expected but they are still behind us! Considering what our expectations for the season were at the start of the season, to finish 3rd or 4th would be a brilliant acheivement and we should be thrilled regardless of what our neighbours do. If they end up ahead of us, then credit to them, even if they've not been playing such attractive football. Yes, it will stick in the craw a wee bit just as it wrankles that they have reached a cup final and we've not, but for 2 Highland teams to be sitting so high in the league must be good for the future of the game in the North and must be to the long term benefit of ICT. So in answer to the question - yes, a great season if we are 4th and County are above us, but a brilliant season if we are 4th and they are below us.

Pork pies! My favourite

Should be OK. We have our own Butcher.

Just a wee side point, but can you tell me how Celtic are able to get 16 points out of 5 matches? Ah! Someone has noticed my deliberate mistake Well spotted! Should be only 75 as they have just 5 and not 6 games before the split. I think it might be still be enough though!

Just as well he was an Emperor and not a footballer - would never have got all of that on the back of his shirt

Another factor is surely the style of play this season. Both Raven and particularly G Shinnie get down the flanks a lot and this leaves us a bit exposed at times. The team passing game also brings the defensive midfield a bit further forward so the cover tends to be looser than previously. I think sometimes when we have conceded some of the defence is just getting back and they can be a bit out of position. But who's complaining as long as we score more at the other end?

All our top strikers have had barren spells and often it takes a significant run in the side for things to click. Billy is a classic example of that - pretty poor return last season but he's developed the confidence this season and is now setting club scoring records. What should be disheartening for Shane is not the criticism some give on this forum, but the fact that he has never had a decent run in the side in a strikers role. Yes, he has tended to sky a few but he has the confidence to hit the ball hard. He has strength and can turn defenders well and has the makings of a very useful striker. What he needs is the confidence that a run in the side will give and that little bit of extra composure which comes with that so that he gets his foot over the ball more. If he does read this site he will know that there are a lot of folk who think he could be a very good striker indeed for ICT.

Lots of ways of analysing this but if the current form over the last 6 games was translated into the next 6 games (or 5 for those teams with just the 5 stil to play the league would look like this Top six 78 points Celtic (and already champions 2 or 3 games ago) 52 County 48 ICT 48 St J 46 Kilmarnock 45 Motherwell Bottom six 44 Dundee U 43 Hibs 42 Aberdeen 34 Hearts 34 St M 16 Dundee (and relegated) This is actually quite encouraging given our current poor run of results. Teams are all taking points off each other and even if a couple of sides go on really good runs the rest will all be losing a lot of points. Just 4 points from the next 6 games could see us still in the top 6, but 6 points from the next 2 games should really guarantee a top 6 finish. County's currrent form is very impressive with 14 points from the last 6 games and therefore the 2 games against them become huge games. A win against United on Wednesday and a draw at the sand pit on Saturday would make it an excellent week. It feels very uncomfortable with just 4 points currently separating us in 2nd place and Dundee United in 9th. Anything could happen, but realistically for us not to finish top 6 would require us to drop to Dundee standards. I really can't see that happening and I am sure fans of the other clubs in the race would much rather be in our position than theirs.

After the Barnsley fiasco the club issued a statement to say that Terry had made a commitment to stay at the club till the end of of this contract - which is the end of next season. If any other club does come sniffing I would expect the Board to tell then to feck off in no uncertain terms. Should the Board give permission for Terry to speak to any other club that would signal to me that there is a mutual agreement that his contract be terminated early. I certainly don't expect that to happen. I therefore feel that any speculation that he might be a target for any other job should simply be ignored as it only serves to undermine the unity and sense of purpose (the togetherness) that the club needs to maintain in order to finish as high as possible in what is an incredibly tight league.

He usually misses from a lot closer than that!