Alex MacLeod

ADULTS: ?22 CONCESSIONS: ?15 JUVENILE: ?12 FAMILY: ?28

Up until this season Lask Linz were in the Austrian Bundesliga alongside teams like Rapid Vienna, Sturm Graz, etc. Demoted to League 1 for this new season. They tend to be an up and down team.

Getting away from performance for the minute. Refs are not full time. Nor do they officiate every week. The SFA has 31 category 1 referee's, according to their site, and I dont know how many lower grade. Only the cat 1 get paid the published figure. The lower grades get nothing near that and the bottom grades are lucky to be able to cover expenses. That said I think Tug has a serious point. Refereeing should be a full time job. It should be a career and when they are not officiating they should be training and learning. Working with clubs and with each other to become consistant. They should also be looking at ways of incorporating technology into what they do.

IHE, Gringo, Pauliebee ?????

Many players go on trial to many teams and just because they are not then offered a deal does not mean they are not good enough. The main two reasons, other than being sh!te, for a player not getting a contract tend to be - does not add to what we have already - or - style of player not suited to style of game we play. Killie have something like 8 defenders on their books already so its likely that this player doesn't add anything to what they have but could well be suited to what Terry's after. Time will tell.

Never seen the game but I'd add that those players haven't really had a chance to play yet this preseason. Most of them will be playing U-19 league so hopefully will come good by the time that starts.

You at the tealeaves again??

Swap Ross and Hayes and I'd go with that though I dont think G. Shinnie is fit.

A popular misconception Oddquine. This battle was no more an Irish one than the war of the roses was a Scottish one. The opposing forces were King William III of Orange (protestant), who a few years previously had deposed King James II of England and VII of Scotland (catholic) from the throne of England, and the aforementioned James. James had fled to Ireland and was followed by the forces of William. They met and fought across the river Boyne. Irishmen fought on both sides of this battle, just as Scots had done in the English civil wars, but it was still very much a battle for the English throne. Apart from that I agree with most of what you say. I would, however, say to all our fans.....people will be among the crowds at games, especially those involving OF, and will act against those who use sectarian terminology.

Not read it but Agents are a breed thats not on Tels Christmas list. Personally I think they should be employed by, and paid for by, the player and not the clubs.

We are ICT.....not the OF. What is a significant signing. We will never sign Giggs or Raul or any other such significant player. We sign footballers who will compete with the same standard of players in the other teams, barring the OF, in this league. Even Hearts are looking at good but not exceptional players. We will compete. We will win games. We will lose games and we will finish up somewhere in the league come end of season. And who knows? We may be classing every member of our squad as a significant player by then.

And I hope many of you, especially those who wont be travelling, go to the other thread and support the 'wee man' through the efforts of our own intrepid reporter Davie.

I believe we need more cover in defence but wouldn't say I was worried by what we've got. Last season we conceded 6 goals in 8 friendlies. This season we've conceded 6 in 7. Last season we scored 20 in 8. This season its 20 in 7. Last season was 4 wins 3 draws and 1 loss. This its 4 wins 3 draws. (Buckie to beat us) Stats are only stats but I think we must be doing something right in defence this season to match what we had last.

I admire your positive vibes, but would like you to clarify 'workable' the only positives i can see are Esson and Gillet. You haven't seen the 'machine' yet and not forgetting Tokely and Shinnie

Considering he still has a year left in La Liga I think someones been on the wind up

I expect to enjoy good football and a few goals thrown in for each and every game I attend. I believe we have the makings of a squad that can, and will, give all they can to be challenging at the middle of top six.

That'll come when we're flying high in the league at christmas

Defence should always start at the front. We do need cover at the back for injury or ilness but I think we have what will be the regular squad in place now and I see some good attacking football on the horizon.

I pledge ?20 Davie and I reckon it'll take you 7 hrs and 14 minutes. Best of luck with it mate.

And a good report of the match too..........................................I do love how they refer to us as THISTLE

Now signed for Dundee United

And it wasn't a loan signing either. Morais did, however, get convicted of beating up a bouncer in an Edinburgh casino.

TB used him as a centre half for all of last season so i cant see him reverting back to RB any time soon. Can see Tokely becoming a Davie Weir like player, centre half stalwart for a good few years to come I am just pointing out your, we have no RB at the club... Your right, Tokely isn't a right back, but he can play there and has played many times there and done a good job. He played right back a few times last season. Tokely done a damn good job at right back when we had the original 'machine'. That said, looking at the current defence we're struggling. Left is covered with Gillet and Graeme Shinnie. There's Tokely and Aldred for centre and Proctor at right. Cox has covered RB but never impressed me in that position. We have to find some big defenders soon.

I presume your referring to the Portuguese footballer Filipe Morais

Plus 30........i'm sure its open till end august.