Alex MacLeod

Just home from what was a pretty rubbish game. The team selection and tactics left a lot to be desired. Odhiambo was his usual cr*p. No ball control. Poor passing. Should have been hooked after 20 mins. The referee was abysmal. And why when we need to win a game did we hook Rooney in favour of Gillet? All in all the game was pretty scrappy. Too many needless stoppages and too many mistakes from both teams. We were lacking in ideas and any attacks we mounted came to nothing. Dundee U were no better but our big problem, and ultimately their goal, came from a failure to clear our box with any authority. We lacked communication and too many times found two or three players staring at a loose ball with nobody acting. For me todays performance was not one deserving of a top six finish and I think we've blown it on that score.

And being loyal to the crown is bad because? If you want a debate on that then please take it to a new thread in an appropriate forum.

Heres one I wasn't aware of. Wrong colours though

This Jacobite flag?? Jacobite flag.bmp That isn't the jacobite flag, only the one they have at culloden. This is the Jacobite flag- would leave room for text above and below the box and possibly the club crest in the middle? My link There is a lot of debate and arguement about what the Jacobite flag was. The flag you link was believed to be the Standard of Prince Charlie and the one that was raised at Glenfinnan. However, the Jacobite emblem, which was around for a great many years before '45 is believed to have been a white rose, or cockade, on a red background. Sadly all standards displayed during the uprisings were destroyed bar one that is displayed in Dundee museum.

We are safe from the drop, unless Hamilton can produce a miracle and win all their games and us lose all ours, and the only chance of top six is to go all out attack. With that in mind I'd go Esson Tokely Munro Hogg Shinnie/Gillet Hayes, Cox, Duncan, Ross Foran, Rooney Subs: Tuffey, Duff, Doran, MacDonald, Sutherland, Sanchez

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Interesting - so this may be a more effective methods of not just keeping the rain / snow off, but can also heat up frozen pitches? Mind you, will it heat it to sufficient depth? If this really is the better option, why not buy it and install it? SPL may stipulate that we have USH, and we have. But do the rules specify that we need to turn it on though . . .? Cut out the running costs (and don't bother with the maintenance unless for safety reasons) and use the better method just to prove it actually IS better! The point is not about heating a frozen pitch. Its about not allowing it to become frozen in the first place.

All in all we were not disgraced

We tried. We failed. We were by no means disgraced but we were up against a team that has been pretty much unstoppable over the last few months.

I'll leave it for the manager to decide but more important than the keeper is his selection for defence.

Apparantely the game will be shown on Setanta (Australia and S. Africa) Whilst researching I found This Site Its full of lots of info and links with betting odds at bottom of page. Think I need to go to bookies and get a bet on.

How different the debate would have been had the powers that be made a different choice in 1973.

From information readily available on this site I can confirm that the average was indeed as Charles says for the season 94/95. Gates were always over 1000 till the last quarter of the season when they dropped to around the 700 mark. The lowest attendance was a tuesday night game against Albion Rovers. 491 watched them win 0-2. The highest was 3562 who watched us beat County 3-0. Even a friendly against Celtic on 17/09/94 could only muster 1143.

I'm with the Dee. Had the penalty not been imposed I dont think Dundee would have done as well as they have done. The points deduction spurred them on to do well.

flying from where exactly ??? private jet? stand up for the caley jags They could charter a flight but they'd need to rush back to the airport after the game. It closes at ten. Flying wouldn't actually save them much time though. Get on coach to Glasgow airport. Half hour. Check in one and half hours before flying to allow time for the long queues through security. Flight time to Inverness including taxiing an hour. So around three and a half hours to fly and probably the same by coach

The aquifer is below ground. The troublesome water is above. And ne'er the twain shall meet.

and his Scotland U-17 colleagues failed to make the finals of the European U-17 championships at the weekend. After holding Italy to a 0-0 draw they beat Slovakia 2-0 but could only manage a 1-1 draw against Czech Republic. The young Scots were only 18 minutes away from the finals when the Czech's equalised. The lads were unlucky not to go on to the finals but come home with heads held high and a sign that there are some good footballers coming through the ranks. Liam started all three games and reports suggest he done very well.

Has been selected for an U-21 friendly in Belgium on friday 25th March.

A result for common sense.

CD, the MacLeod system is a pitch protection that also provides heat. The idea is that the cover is stitched in such a way that when the fans are on it has a ripple effect. Like a serious of polytunnels. The fans used are industrial gas burners and can provide the same protection as USH. Cost actually works out a lot less. Middlesborough FC use this system. Sadly the SPL insist on USH.

So have you made your mind up then Mr Mantis the more I think about both scenarios its remarkable how similar the football communities of Nottingham and Inverness are Forest like Caley being the greater team with the better players, more money, better ground and a much larger support I can't help but laugh out loud at the ex jaggies that claim that they had all the money men who were allegedly regulars at Kingsmills, from what i've been told and the few online photos of Kingsmills park i've seen, then why did their ground resemble something like a scene from Beirut at the height of the troubles Any money men would have pumped the cash into the Scottish league team regardless of who the team was I personally think the jags were on their last legs and they only had one chance of survival and that was to cling perilously on to Caley's tail because they would have been dead and buried within a season had Caley gone solo. You only have to look at the sorry state Clach find themselves in at the moment to back up my claim Had I been a Jaggie I reckon I would have fallen into the refusenik camp, there is no way I could watch a merged team who play in blue, hear only Caley chants from the fans and listen to virtually everybody in Inverness including the local and national media refer to the team as Caley. Lucky for us you weren't here then Had I been Caledonian I would have voted NO to a takeover and I would have wanted Caley to go alone because other than the sale of Kingsmills Thistle were bringing absolutely nothing to the party. Who invested the most in this new club? What I find galling is that clubs who were inferior to Caledonian on and off the park got Scottish League entry(yer Ross Countys,Peterheads,Elgins,Gretnas and Annans etc) Whats galling about that The fact that Gretna reached the SPL and County made a Cup final apperance makes a mockery of all the clowns on here that claim Caley would never have achieved what ICT have done. Gretna made a mockery of Scottish Football Lets not beat about the bush Caledonian FC would be in the exact same position that ICT find themselves in at this moment with a greater and more loyal fanbase as there would be a lot less disharmony in the City. Nobody will ever know the answer to that but I doubt it. dougal Dougal, Caledonian FC were the largest and most successful Highland League club but I still hold that, had they gone it alone, they'd be in the same leagues as the Elgins, Peterheads etc you mention. Gretna doesnt count because that was one mans obsession to prove he could buy a non league football team and take them to the top league within five years. He done it, he spent his fortunes doing it and his team died with him. You say Thistle took nothing to the party. I say Thistle took David Sutherland and his money to the party. Without that and his business accumen we would still be playing Elgin and Montrose. What I find very galling about you Dougal is your persistance in trying to stir the chit at every opportunity. If your intention is to try and breed unrest among ICT fans then you'd better go back to the drawing board. We are here on this site for this club that is ICT. We have accepted the events of 18 years ago and we all stand together now, in the same stand, to support the same team. We dont dig up the past, other than in nostalgic reflection. We look to the future and the success of ICT.

I really doubt that. All the new fans who supported the merged team would have probably supported any league team in Inverness. So I think the crowds would be similar to what they are now. I agree Joe.....FACT....in the 50s and 60s, Caley were regularily playing to crowds as big...if not bigger than what they average now, when they were in the Highland League. Dont belive me....go get yourself a copy of Rod Clynes book, In A Different League....its all in there. I see no evidence to suggest that Caley on their own would have been less of a draw than ICT....if anything...i think they could have had a bigger, more loyal fanbase! SMEE is right. According to Alex Main's "Caley All the Way, Caledonian had some quite large crowds during the 1950's and 60's: Caledonian v Clach - 1949/50 NOS Qualifying Cup- Attendance 6,000 ( T Street) Caledonian v Elgin - 1950/51 NOS Qualifying Cup - Attendance 4,000 ( T Street) Caledonian v County -1965/66- NOS Qualifying Cup - Attendance 4,000 ( T Street) Not sure what this proves other than Caledonian were able to get 1st division attendances. Following on from what the Long Man suggests here's some recordl crowds from the Scottish leagues of 50's and 60's 2nd Jan 1950 Hibs v Hearts at Easter Road - Div 1 - 65860 3rd Mar 1954 Aberdeen v Hearts at Pittodrie - Scot Cup - 45060 2nd Jan 1950 East Fife v Raith Rovers at Bayview - Div 1 - 22515 14th Mar 1959 Stirling Albion v Celtic at Annfield - Scot Cup - 26400 17th Feb 1968 Elgin City v Arbroath at Boroughbrigs - Scot Cup - 12608 These are record attendances for the home clubs but such attendances would never happen nowadays. Elgin would be lucky to break a thousand for a game against Arbroath now.The last Easter Road derby couldnt raise a third of the gate of 1950. No comparrison can be made between now and back then for many reasons. Back then football was an affordable release for a man and his boys after a hard weeks work. Indeed for many it was probably the only affordable interest they could have. Now there's too many other things to spend the money on and football has priced itself out of the market.

Centenary??

If our game hadn't been binned they'd have shown two of the QF's with the Dons-Buds game on BBC and Brechin-StJ not on the box. I think they get first dibs on any replays, which would mean showing the StJ-Brechin game. But that would still leave our game. Maybe they aren't going to bother with it, although a midweek away game for Celtic would probably get a few more viewers than most other Scottish games. Sorry, hadn't realised it was BBC that screened that one. I do, however remember, many years ago, when the big debate was not to show live games because of the effect on gate numbers. Indeed I remember back in the early eighties when the SFA refused to sell TV rights for a mid week international in the hope of boosting attendance. Think the idea failed dismally though.