I was sitting very near the top left corner of the stand at tynecastle and was very much enjoying my 1st away game this season. However the whole experience was marred by a few ICT fans who seemed only happy if they were causing trouble and abusing people. The main offender was constantly using the "c" word and hurling abuse towards the hearts fans that were sitting at the far right corner of the main stand (a bit of fun banter is good but this was verbal abuse) He then started to slag off most of the ICT by saying there were all "donuts" and that foran has no place in the side (i think we know who the donut is and it aint foran). Then, this lad and his mate started to have a go at the fans in front of me because they were disagreing with there "donut" remark about foran saying he is a star player for ICT. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you start swearing to people and basically treatening them that they are wrong is disgracefull. I would be happy never to see these people at an ICT game again, your support is not welcome!!!

Well it looks as if i have opened a right can of worms witht this one. First of all HC it was not the lads infront that started the exchange of words on saturday, it was your mate the so called "ginger destroyer". Never in my life at a football match have i disliked the person a few seats down from me more. His choice of words were unacceptable and completely distastful and he should have been ejected from the ground IMHO.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

Next time you and your mates go to an inverness game try and support your team. Get behind them and cheer them on, not moan at them and critises.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

Erm... Ok.

The official flag of Ulster and Northern Ireland.

Well it looks as if i have opened a right can of worms witht this one. First of all HC it was not the lads infront that started the exchange of words on saturday, it was your mate the so called "ginger destroyer". Never in my life at a football match have i disliked the person a few seats down from me more. His choice of words were unacceptable and completely distastful and he should have been ejected from the ground IMHO.

Your first post and this, for the most of it, are inaccurate. He is mouthy, always has been, but didn't kick off until he was getting pulled up for a throw away remark about a miss placed pass.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

No a welsh flag is fine. To be honest I wasn't bothered with the flag but I can understand why others would be.

Next time you and your mates go to an inverness game try and support your team. Get behind them and cheer them on, not moan at them and critises.

Again, you are trying to use a one off incident regarding 2 people to reflect another 9 fans who were sitting enjoying the match and encouraging the team.

Edited December 21, 201015 yr by Harry Chibber

Well it looks as if i have opened a right can of worms witht this one. First of all HC it was not the lads infront that started the exchange of words on saturday, it was your mate the so called "ginger destroyer". Never in my life at a football match have i disliked the person a few seats down from me more. His choice of words were unacceptable and completely distastful and he should have been ejected from the ground IMHO.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

Next time you and your mates go to an inverness game try and support your team. Get behind them and cheer them on, not moan at them and critises.

Jeezo, I must have missed all this despite not being far away from this. Doofer, the guy with the flag and his mate were on the wind up. Flagman was just conforming to the "hun lite" stereotypeand the odd surreptitious nazi salute kinda gave it away. I'd suggest that that flag has other, almost universally understood, connotations in the central belt but hey, If you give it, you gotta take it. I don't think that "ten quid in tesco's" was a terrible thing to shout at some rotund ned in a vomit yellow trackie top. We need to chill people, it's that time of year.

Well it looks as if i have opened a right can of worms witht this one. First of all HC it was not the lads infront that started the exchange of words on saturday, it was your mate the so called "ginger destroyer". Never in my life at a football match have i disliked the person a few seats down from me more. His choice of words were unacceptable and completely distastful and he should have been ejected from the ground IMHO.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

Next time you and your mates go to an inverness game try and support your team. Get behind them and cheer them on, not moan at them and critises.

Jeezo, I must have missed all this despite not being far away from this. Doofer, the guy with the flag and his mate were on the wind up. Flagman was just conforming to the "hun lite" stereotypeand the odd surreptitious nazi salute kinda gave it away. I'd suggest that that flag has other, almost universally understood, connotations in the central belt but hey, If you give it, you gotta take it. I don't think that "ten quid in tesco's" was a terrible thing to shout at some rotund ned in a vomit yellow trackie top. We need to chill people, it's that time of year.

Not one person has said it was!!

I though that was for the guy in the blue Adidas tracksuit. I take it back now.

They must get the same reaction for the NI flag of every team, hence why it only points towards the away fans.

There is a Northern Ireland hearts supporters club that goes over to every home & most away games.

I wouldn't think for a minute thats who takes the Red Hand to Tynie though..

Ulster Hearts they are called iirc..

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by CaleyHE

Too many people within the support always bitching about other supporters and what they are up to,ok the guy doesn't rate Foran he is entitled to his opinion some people like players in different ways

he pays his money for his season ticket or ticket on the day then he is entitled to shout his support or frustrations all he wants.

Some people in the ICT support would be better getting on with watching the game instead of their fellow supporters

Outrageous behaviour calling someone a Donught where will it all end,if it ever gets to people calling players eclairs i'd call the polis!!!

Too many people within the support always bitching about other supporters and what they are up to,ok the guy doesn't rate Foran he is entitled to his opinion some people like players in different ways

he pays his money for his season ticket or ticket on the day then he is entitled to shout his support or frustrations all he wants.

Some people in the ICT support would be better getting on with watching the game instead of their fellow supporters

Outrageous behaviour calling someone a Donught where will it all end,if it ever gets to people calling players eclairs i'd call the polis!!!

Indeed. Too many folk on here and at the games more concerned with the behaviour of others than the game itself.

Every club has people who follow it who may not be 'PC' if you like. We're no different. I know a few personally who like to shout and swear at games, myself included (although the majority is directed at the ref and the opposing players), it's the norm at games and it isn't going to go away.

If you don't like difference of opinion or shouting and swearing at games, football really isn't for you.

Too many people within the support always bitching about other supporters and what they are up to,ok the guy doesn't rate Foran he is entitled to his opinion some people like players in different ways

he pays his money for his season ticket or ticket on the day then he is entitled to shout his support or frustrations all he wants.

Some people in the ICT support would be better getting on with watching the game instead of their fellow supporters

Outrageous behaviour calling someone a Donught where will it all end,if it ever gets to people calling players eclairs i'd call the polis!!!

Indeed. Too many folk on here and at the games more concerned with the behaviour of others than the game itself.

Every club has people who follow it who may not be 'PC' if you like. We're no different. I know a few personally who like to shout and swear at games, myself included (although the majority is directed at the ref and the opposing players), it's the norm at games and it isn't going to go away.

If you don't like difference of opinion or shouting and swearing at games, football really isn't for you.

I couldn't have put it better myself. When i was first taken to the football, it was a lot of what is was about. The working class man letting of some steam after a hard week, if that was by telling a player, he wasn't having the best of games, so be it. It's part & parcel of the game, and it always will be.

The players who played for peanuts got it & took the criticism, surely our overpaid premadonas of the day should be thick skinned enough to handle it.

Same goes with the banter with the away fans, am sure the Jambos who were getting it, were giving it back just as good. That's why they get ST's for that part of the stadium, to banter with away fans. Am sure it entertained their day too. Football has changed some, as a fan, that i can admit, but their is still a bit of the way it was & Tynecastle away is one of the best places to find this..

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by CaleyHE

HIV capital chant or one man shouting Richie Foran is a donut? which is more offensive?

Doughnut, obviously. Far more people die of obesity in this country than HIV, according to my research which was assumed.

I hate folk shouting at the ref but I can't do nothing about it, other than go to watch Glasgow warriors, which is just a step to far.

Well it looks as if i have opened a right can of worms witht this one. First of all HC it was not the lads infront that started the exchange of words on saturday, it was your mate the so called "ginger destroyer". Never in my life at a football match have i disliked the person a few seats down from me more. His choice of words were unacceptable and completely distastful and he should have been ejected from the ground IMHO.

Your first post and this, for the most of it, are inaccurate. He is mouthy, always has been, but didn't kick off until he was getting pulled up for a throw away remark about a miss placed pass.

As for your remark about the hearts fan with the flag, did it ever cross your mind that he might be northern irish and proud to be? Would i get the same abuse throw my why if i had a welsh flag at a match?

No a welsh flag is fine. To be honest I wasn't bothered with the flag but I can understand why others would be.

Next time you and your mates go to an inverness game try and support your team. Get behind them and cheer them on, not moan at them and critises.

Again, you are trying to use a one off incident regarding 2 people to reflect another 9 fans who were sitting enjoying the match and encouraging the team.

Well Harry, I would be giving the "2 people" a wee word and give them some sensible advice as they seem to be "tarring" you all with the same brush!

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by caleyboy

Clearly anyone dissing Richie Foran is a bit of a doughnut and I wholheartedly congratulate whoever told the ginger whinger to button it. I wish a few more would follow suit and get wired into some of the more emptyheaded amongst our number.

However, what really gets on my goat is folk who come on here b1tching and moaning about other folks' behaviour but don't have the front to pull the protagonist up about it at the time.

HIV Capital chant well past its sell by date.

Jambo plastic loyalists beyond parody.

Surely these idiots can be identified. I wasn't at the game but if I was and I new who they were, I would have their names off to Kenny Cameron straight away. Come on someone - do your duty!

Are you sure? I thought I saw someone with a flag which looked a lot like your avatar...

Oh I'm sure all right. My avatar is the US State of Florida!

To the OP; if you're unhappy with the conduct of a fan have a quiet word with them at half time. Please don't come on here and start on about it days after the event from behind a faceless avatar. On a much brighter note being told by hearts fans all week that "we pumped yous 1-1" has been highly amusing.

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by Top Six Next Year

Rather sad thread isnt it - and here am poor me with the worst reputation and disciplinary record around. Drunk and Incapable and Drunk and Disorderly(ish), standing up and singing incessantly (including swearing, taunting away supporters - especially when there is a hint of sectarianism), friendly albeit offensive banter withn away supporters are all acceptable terrace behaviours IMHO but - bullying fellow fans (usually younger fans); picking fights within your own group, doing it in the safety of a group behind you; slagging off players or the club are unacceptable ICT behaviours.

And sorry but carrying it on here - there is a PM system - and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten.

Rather sad thread isnt it - and here am poor me with the worst reputation and disciplinary record around. Drunk and Incapable and Drunk and Disorderly(ish), standing up and singing incessantly (including swearing, taunting away supporters - especially when there is a hint of sectarianism), friendly albeit offensive banter withn away supporters are all acceptable terrace behaviours IMHO but - bullying fellow fans (usually younger fans); picking fights within your own group, doing it in the safety of a group behind you; slagging off players or the club are unacceptable ICT behaviours.

And sorry but carrying it on here - there is a PM system - and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten.

Judging stories when you didn't see an incident?

This guy was not any younger and there was certainly no bullying. A disagreement between 2 people that got out of hand.. I only got involved to stop it escalating to something else.

This has grown legs when it was dealt with at stadium and should have been left there.

- and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten

Couldnt agree more mate but just shows what many in the support are like,people complaining about nonsense like this clearly never went football before 1994!!

what was the point in posting this on here. squabbles happen at almost every match its bound to happen. not everyone has the same opinion

- and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten

Couldnt agree more mate but just shows what many in the support are like,people complaining about nonsense like this clearly never went football before 1994!!

Most on here couldn't cope with what went on before 1994 and more to the point probably weren't born

Rather sad thread isnt it - and here am poor me with the worst reputation and disciplinary record around. Drunk and Incapable and Drunk and Disorderly(ish), standing up and singing incessantly (including swearing, taunting away supporters - especially when there is a hint of sectarianism), friendly albeit offensive banter withn away supporters are all acceptable terrace behaviours IMHO but - bullying fellow fans (usually younger fans); picking fights within your own group, doing it in the safety of a group behind you; slagging off players or the club are unacceptable ICT behaviours.

And sorry but carrying it on here - there is a PM system - and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten.

Judging stories when you didn't see an incident?

This guy was not any younger and there was certainly no bullying. A disagreement between 2 people that got out of hand.. I only got involved to stop it escalating to something else.

This has grown legs when it was dealt with at stadium and should have been left there.

That was a generalised comment Hairy - not a reflection on what did or didnt happen - but it has happened before and may happen again. Send the ginger nut fer Anger Management with a professional

Agree wholly with the last line though.

All I can deduce from this whole threads is mountains and molehills.

Sometimes reading this forum really makes me cringe.