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Luke if you get worried I WILL be worried!

It's not really a surprise everyone is leaving. Butcher sold the club to these guys as a platform to move back to England anyway. He also put the short term deals on the table. The blame is solely his. It's clear that the current nature of his signings don't work out up here. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could find some up and coming players in Scotland or a few players in the last chance saloon like we used to. It never failed us before anyway.

More of your "everythings just dandy" stuff. I'll express my view of things how I like. If you don't like that, I don't care.

I see no conspiracy whatsoever here. Tokely has been at the club a long time and I'd imagine he's one of our top earners. Nobody knows if he's able, at his age, to complete another full season at full fitness. He's been offered a deal for another year at a reduced wage. How reduced I dont know. This deal has not come about because anyone wants rid of Tokely. Its come about because we cannot afford to keep him at the salary he was on. Look back over the last few years at whats been happening. Every year we have had a 1/4 million shortfall in cash needed to survive. Alan Savage stepped in with that amount. Then a few directors chipped in with a similar amount. A deal was done on the social club to subsidise another season. A consortium comes forward with a similar amount to cover last seasons shortfall. This season the club has said the playing budget is cut. This club is struggling to make ends meet as a full time club in this league. We cant go below a 24 player first team and we also need an U-20 squad. Perhaps the only way to achieve that is to cut wages and find players that'll put themselves in the shop window for a move to a bigger wage elsewhere. That to me seems the only way this club can survive and no amount of bleating is going to put funds in the coffer. At least not unless the jackpot is mine tonight.

Stevenage ffs...............................................No big loss in my opinion, never set the heather on fire anyway. Bigger & better out there.

Agreed we've got to start offering 2 year deals if the club are serious about staying in the SPL - also at least then if anybody's interested in a player after a year they will command a fee, however modest. Restricting finances to the extent that we are continually stitching a team together from other peoples cast offs is false economy and will end with us playing part-time in D1.

I reckon that the practically "blunderous" season that we've just had is a fairly prominent reminder if ever he needed one. How can we expect to move on or grow as a team if things such as "supporters" feeling a constant need to linger around particular sour situations of the past and jump on the matter whenever possible, in apparently thinking it'll magically change everything.

*drifts off to sleep* It's all obviously a conspiracy against ict fans, and ict players butcher didn't sign. He'll have Christie and shearer out the youth development programme soon aswell. Give it a rest. It's well documented that spl clubs are making budget cuts. How do you know butcher didn't offer Tokely a perfectly acceptable contract? How do you know that butcher has wanted him out for ages? It's the same garbage you've moaned about all season. It started with "never should've released Munro" now it "he's planning getting rid of Tokely". Will anyone get behind butcher on here? He's backed into a corner every year regarding his budget and sometimes players have to take pay cuts. Not butchers fault if Tokely can't accept it. Butchers brought us through one of our toughest seasons with our spl status intact. Give the guy a break

I don't think for one moment that Terry is going to refuse a deal to the likes of Hayes on the 2nd June if we don't have someone else in place. Looks more to me like Terry is saying "If you haven't decided by 31st May then I am going to look elsewhere and if I find a replacement then tough"....which I think is the right way to go. For too long players/agents have held the "power" when it comes to these kind of things and it's good to see that we're taking some action to try and reverse that trend.

I really believe that being a successful club in reaching the SPL was a step too far. There is no way that our club will ever compete for the title in this league or attract the crowds that will sustain a decent wage for the players. We will forever be in the shadows of the bigger clubs who will offer our better players a better wage. Its a fact that we will have to live with. Alex is also correct in stating Ross County will also suffer sooner rather than later. We have found it difficult to attract players to Inverness so I feel County will find it harder as Dingwall doesn't really offer the same off the field entertainments as Inverness does. We'll see. We will continue to find it difficult to make ends meet and it will need a strong board to make sure that we do just that...survive.

You lot all worry too much. The whole of Scottish football is in decline. The players are not just leaving clubs, they are leaving the SPL. The uncertainty regarding the Rangers issues has clouded the game in Scotland and unfortunately nobody will commit to how much they will spend in pre-season as they don't know what their income will be this season. Like it or not, but no Rangers means less money all round. The good thing is it will affect all clubs equally so the status quo will be relatively preserved. Worried, nah, whats the point, we are all in this together.

Says a lot that he prefers Stevenage to us and Motherwell! Good luck to him. I liked him but always felt he had a bit more to offer which rarely came through.

I think it was obvious why he got rid of Duncan. He'd lost his place, didn't do anything special when he got time on the park, went to a lesser division, couldn't get a game for them, dropped down more divisions. An ICT legend sure, but just like McBain, Golabeck, Wyness etc etc, eventually the time comes when he's not good enough. He'd reached that time. No blunder there. Or would you like to sign a Ross County over-30 reject who was loaned out to a 3rd division club? Munro got a lot of criticism from ICT supporters for his hoof-the-ball. I thought he was a decent player and it was a mistake. He was never international class but a decent bottom six defender. A mistake. Tokely has been criticised all season, with some saying he was fourth, fifth and even sixth choice of central defender. I heard very few shouting Ross should have had a new contract most of the season, except for the last few games. As it is, I hope he does get a new contract as, again, he is a decent but not Earth-shattering bottom six defender. I'd keep him but where are all the critics that have been shouting how he must leave all season? And who are all those other players that we're losing that are the 'heart and soul' of the club? Picked at random from 2009: Inverness CT: Esson, Tokely, Mihadjuks, Munro, Djebi-Zadi, Proctor, Black, Duncan, Foran (Hastings 87), Morais (Imrie 62), Rooney (Odhiambo 77) Couldn't afford: Mihadjuks, Black, Morais, Rooney Stayed: Esson, Tokely, Foran - both of the latter have been constantly criticised all season Left controversially: Munro, Duncan - only one of which has managed to play in a lesser division Other: Djebi-Zadi, Proctor, Hastings, Imrie, Odhiambo - which one of these is the 'heart and soul' that we shouldn't be losing? All of them were being hugely criticised.

Luke if you get worried I WILL be worried! Ask me if I'm worried in June. There's 2 things that worry me the demise of ict and armageddon. I am worried about being worried about not having enough players next season. So in a way i am indirectly worried.

While I want Rossco to stay, we have to put budgets in place, I have no idea of his salary, his offer or where that sits in the club overall. Sadly he isnt getting any younger and while he is experienced and leads us - if we cant agree a deal within the structure in place he will have to leave. If that money pays for 2 younger players and covers other openings in the squad so be it and we will have to rely on other more senior players to step up and show more passion & leadership. Sad time and state of affairs but this is Scottish football and how it may be in the future. Look at Hearts who cant keep Black - he has been their best player all season, this is a team who won a cup has a bigger fan base and qualified for European football - cant make a contract offer to a decent Scottish player (not even international level), D Utd are another example of a club where players are leaving year on year. Nobody in Scottish football has money :(

But when you chew on a soor plum you learn a lesson - it is the fact that the lessons, irrespective of the subject matter, have not been learned that is the most annoying.

Has butcher even said why he got rid of Duncan and Munro? I think that's why a few of us are annoyed they left and keep bringing it up. Butcher released two players who lost out to 6th place by a couple points and replaced them with absolute junk. He deserves to be reminded of his massive blunder.

I think it should be decided "Celebrity Death Match" style. The referee withdraws from the game and the only rule that stands is the team to put the ball in the back of the opponents net next wins.

Welcome to hell milo.

Would have been on my keep sheet, but not someone that can't be readily replaced.

Bugger. But I'm glad he's gone further south than Motherwell.

I'll add here my best wishes to Greg. Shame we couldn't hold on to him. I had hoped he would stay following his words the other day stating he'd like to. All the best Greg

"More of your "everythings just dandy" stuff. I'll express my view of things how I like. If you don't like that, I don't care." More of your conspiracy theories more like, Renegade. You'll soon have more conspiracy theories than Neil Lennon!! Luke is absolutely right in the fact that one or two people have constantly ranted about munro and duncan all season. They just cant seem to let go and quite frankly, the record is starting to wear thin. So FFS, can we please now give it a rest with the conspiracy theories and actually start to look at the big picture. IE - Rosscoe has been offered a deal. I couldn't give a crap if it's a pay as you play deal, matches his current deal or is offered more money. The fact still remains that an offer is on the table and surely to goodness must show that Butcher see's him as part of next years squad?

Renegade, I swear all you do is complain, or insinuate some form of conspiracy.. and in general just hate, hate, hate. I'll happilly start to back you when you do better than butcher! You are applying aren't you? You should, you always seem to know every stat, every performance, every off the ball situation, more so that Tel. Go for it.

It's pretty obvious what's going on here. I've heard from a few places that Butcher's wanted rid of Tokely for a long time and had he had his way, he would've punted him out the door along with Munro and Duncan. What Butcher's trying to do here is simple - he's going to offer Tokely a deal he knows he'll refuse. Then when the deadline is up, Tokely is gone and Butcher can say that it was own fault he's away. Of course, we all know why. If Tokely is offered a rubbish and refuses it and the fans react badly, Butcher can say it was his choice to leave, thus saving Butcher any flack (and damage to his ego), obviously in reaction to what happened with the Grant Munro saga. It's basically the same thing again, just in a different way.

After last nights revelations on FC Dignity, if they're not punished appropriatley by the SPL then thats it for Scottish Football. Fans in there thousands will start turning away and Celtic and FC Dignity will be whipping part-time teams every week. The SPL was bordering on farcical anyway with their woefully misjudged distribution of the TV money and the ludicrous rules for entry and voting structure. (making County spending in excess of £1,000,000 pounds in this climate is crazy)..... but FC Dignitys years of cheating and stealing players basically goes without punishment then the league is pointless, the other teams are not being allowed to prosper.

Agreed, its that one step closer to France he's been looking for. Of course it does - nothing to do with him feeling that he has been constantly played out of position, often made a scapegoat, dropped and started again on a regular basis and not played to his strengths.

Read in a local paper a few days ago that he has said "At my age, I'm not wanting to be on the bench, or a squad player." and "If I'm not going to be a regular, it won't be for me next year." Given his age, that seems to be a bit dictatorial. Is any player 100% guaranteed not being on the bench or a squad player? I always thought that was what football was all about....a team game, where the egos of players are subsumed to the good of the team. Seems to me if he is prepared to fight for his place as he said he was, why would he need guarantees of a regular game. Wouldn't his own performances give him the opportunity to play if he makes sure he can't justifiably be ignored? If it's about money, or if he has been told he is going to be kept not to play at all but to mentor the younger players as the only ICT real old-stager left , then that's one thing, so if he can get more money elsewhere then good luck to him......and I can see why he wouldn't want to be last choice in an absolute emergency for a game....but if it is just because he will be a squad player and not an automatic first team shoo-in then you kinda have to query his attitude. Nobody is entitled to a place in the starting line-up.or even on the bench.

Right through the forties and into the late fifties Craig Dunain was always referred to as the Asylum and I can vaguely remember someone escaping from there around 1952, The poor fellow, at first, caused the folk a certain ammount of fear because of his departure but as it ;happened he managed to keep out of the clutches of his persuers for more than fourteen days so was deemed to be sane and given release in good grace. The fear factor then dissipated. Strange times indeed Dougiedanger has just posted and I agree the grounds were magnificent in the old days and there was quite a testing golf course on the side of the hill. I dont suppose there is any signs of that now.