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This thread will come to a natural end if or when the team on the park begin to entertain and enjoy success again. Should that happen then I doubt anyone will be interested in continuing to post on the thread. In the meantime, I think it is bordering on outrageous that those who don't seem to have reservations about the manager want to censor debate by calling for the thread to be closed. It seems to me that those who have doubts about the manager, while arguing their position, are generally respectful of the views of those who don't. On the other hand, many of those who believe Hughes is doing a good job seem to be intolerant of the opposing view even being voiced and describe reasoned and considered counter argument as vitriol simply on the basis that it does not accord with their own view. There are a range of views among fans but there are no sides or factionalism other than in the minds of those who will brook no opinion other than their own. If anyone is offended by the mere existence of this thread the simple remedy for them is to ignore it at let the rest of us get on with debating what we each sincerely believe to be in the best interests of our club. OK ok I'll nibble your bait once more; You do not want a debate, you want to dictate under that pretence................Trouble is it is transparent and obvious. I do not wish to ignore any reasoned threads, there are some really good posters who contribute constructively and who deal with the present and future of ICT. I am interested to read their views and opinions .............. The others........... I just shake my head and wonder why they have to write from a mixture of hearsay and uninformed opinion or use secondhand opinion gleaned from a minority of ignorant posters on other forums. Posters who think it is clever to slate a good honest manager or/and deride anything that they do not agree with or THINK that they know more about the subject be it person or incidence. Some on here just do not want John Hughes as our manager regardless of what he does or does not do . These same people are now so committed to sowing seeds of his downfall that they are running scared that he might just yet prove them wrong. Oh yes some even say they do not want him to fail! Why then, if they want to be proved wrong, do they keep on posting in the same vein time after time?????

I've already had this discussion and am not in agreement that anything was abandoned in our match against Ross County. The only real difference was that we had 2 fit wingers for the first time in a while and that, IMO, better facilitated the balance that Yogi has been striving for. The big worry there Caley D is we only really have 2 wingers and if one is out his whole system falls apart as in previous matches, and why play a system if he doesn't have fit players to make it work ? 2? What about Ross and Williams ?

I've already had this discussion and am not in agreement that anything was abandoned in our match against Ross County. The only real difference was that we had 2 fit wingers for the first time in a while and that, IMO, better facilitated the balance that Yogi has been striving for. The big worry there Caley D is we only really have 2 wingers and if one is out his whole system falls apart as in previous matches, and why play a system if he doesn't have fit players to make it work ? Absolutely...and therein lies the need for change/development of alternative ways of playing.

I've already had this discussion and am not in agreement that anything was abandoned in our match against Ross County. The only real difference was that we had 2 fit wingers for the first time in a while and that, IMO, better facilitated the balance that Yogi has been striving for.

It might sound to you that people want him to fail, but they don't. For what it's worth, I like Hughes as a man - he seems a much nicer bloke than Butcher and I'd love to see him be a success. That's not to say I don't have reservations over some of the things I've seen and it's only right that those are highlighted when they happen.

I've seen this type of transformation tried before first hand here in Toronto. Aaron Winter got a year and a half to try and bring the Ajax model to the club. He failed miserably as the style of play did not fit the players on the team nor did that style fit well against the league he was managing in. We had the same articles posted in the press about players "buying in" and all. Didn't change the fact we lost boat-loads of game and decimated the fan base and our credibility in the league. I guess I'm encouraged that Yogi has seemed to shift tactics to match the players he's got atm....but I'm wary of the ability to achieve such lofty goals for this team in this league.

I suspect that this thread may die a death on Friday and rise again on Monday.

Positivity 6 --- Negativity 0.

IF you have any sense of irony.you just gotta love this! (C&P'd from Bella Caledonia.because even less would read it if I just linked to it.) I Shall Vote NO [After Christopher Logue, I Shall Vote Labour (1966)] By A.R. Frith I shall vote No because, without Westminster, We’d never have got rid of the Poll Tax I shall vote No because eight hundred thousand Scots live in England, and there are no jobs here to match their talents and meet their aspirations I shall vote No, because my grandmother was a MacDougall I shall vote No in case Shell and BP leave and take their oil with them I shall vote No because otherwise we would have to give back the pandas I shall vote No because I am feart I shall vote No because the people who promised us a better deal if we voted No in 79, and warned us of the dire consequences of devolution in 97, tell us we should I shall vote No so as not to let down my fellow socialists in Billericay and Basildon and I shall vote No, because if we got rid of Trident and stopped taking part in illegal wars we would be a target for terrorism I shall vote No because if I lived under a government that listened to me and had policies I agreed with, I wouldn’t feel British I shall vote No because the RAF will bomb our airports if we are a separate country I shall vote No because to vote Yes dishonours the Dead of the Great War, who laid down their lives for the rights of small nations I shall vote No, lest being cut off from England turns Red Leicester cheese and Lincolnshire sausages into unobtainable foreign delicacies, like croissants, or bananas I shall vote No, because, as a progressive, I have more in common with Billy Bragg or Tariq Ali, who aren’t Scottish, than some toff like Lord Forsyth, who is. I shall vote No, because the certainty of billions of pounds worth of spending cuts to come is preferable to the uncertainty of wealth I shall vote No, because it is blindingly obvious that Scotlands voice at the UN, and other international bodies, will be much diminished if we are a member-state I shall vote No because having a parliament with no real power, and another which is run by people we didnt vote for, is the best of both worlds I shall vote No because I trust and admire Nick Clegg, who is promising us Federalism when the Liberals return to office I shall vote No, because Emma Thompson would vote No, and her Dad did The Magic Roundabout I shall vote No, because A.C. Grayling would vote No,and his Mum was born on Burns Night I shall vote No because David Bowie asked Kate Moss to tell us to, and he lives in New York and used to be famous I shall vote No, because nobody ever asks me what I think I shall vote No, because a triple-A credit rating is vital in the modern world I shall vote No because things are just fine as they are I shall vote No because the English say they love us, and that if we vote Yes, they will wreck our economy. And if you're still in the mood for more.......this is quite amusing as well.......a sample of the goodies on offer http://thescottishscaremonger.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2014-03-10T17:18:00-07:00&max-results=7&reverse-paginate=true

I do hope that the awayday travel is advertised fully, over the loudspeakers on Friday evening, umpteen times, to encourage fans to book to go to the Celtic game. Advertising the bus, the reduced cost of entry, surely should encourage enough fans to fill at least one bus. Come on you ICT fans, show the team your encouragement.

I think that some have become to cosy because they happen to have some involvement with the club that that they would never criticise the board/management no matter how bad things might get.

You posted an article and took the opportunity to have a little dig at those who have, as you put it, "certain views". My response was simply to point out that those who disagree with those views have also not commented on the article. I have in no way, shape or form defended anyone holding a particular view point. You have then come back and commented on my innocent reply as "just another example of the lack of logic in the manufactured and error strewn "facts" perpetuating from certain people." That's a pretty strongly worded and wholly unjustified attack to which I responded briefly and light heartedly. You have now responded in a way that fair takes the breath away with it's vitriol and rant about things which seem to be completely unrelated to the post you are responding to. "Lazy, spuriously dismissive", not giving "any real thought", talk of things being "branded a lie". Where on earth do you dig up all that from in response to my innocent little observation? And what is all this about the "opposition"? I wasn't aware there were two sides - if there are, can you please tell me what they are and which side you think I'm on. I thought we all wanted what is best for ICT but simply have a wide spectrum of views on how that might be achieved.

Well,l, as my Dad used to intone. "There are no bad whiskies, some are just better than others."

Here are my offerings ..... Sahara Desert - wearing my TFC and ICT scarves and standing beside an Australian friend. At the Bernabeu Stadium in Madrid At the Nou Camp in Barcelona ONE DAY MAYBE !!!!!

Premiership Adam Rooney (Ross County 1-1 Aberdeen) English Championship Andrew Shinnie (Millwall 2-3 Birmingham City) English League Two Sam Winnall TWO GOALS (Cheltenham Town 0-2 Scunthorpe United)

I didn't realise that there were 1500 special needs children attending one institution.

I am sure Mr Bannerperson will be happy and quick to educate, debate, inform, scold , elucidate, possibly obfuscate, interpret, confuse, review , go.."phew", annotate, analyse, conclude, high-falute, dictate and dynamically divide and conquer us all with a daring dash of precise prose, a plethora of parametric, profuse anagrams and terrific, trite, textual tongue-ticklers trimmed to tease and tantalise our epiglottis's. Hold on, let me just draw a wee breath before the onslaught..... And I hear that the cops are bringing in a large Mountie for County..... smile.