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  1. I will be there in spirit as a paid up Trust member. Just my Tuppence worth, but it is time for everyone to put aside the distrust that comes with this type of situation and make it clear to whoever represents US when it comes to any talks with the club that the current situation is untenable. The Trust should be the conduit to organising or requesting an EGM if the current board remain invisible and ineffective. We cannot have a CEO, board and SLO who won't talk to fans. In the case of the SLO that's his feckin job FFS. We cannot have a sporting director who spends more time in Dingwall than the team bus or directors seats at whichever location we are playing. You were supposed to be an important cog in the wheel. If you are not there then it's stealing a wage. We can't have a manager and coaches who see something isn't working so try the same thing again and again to see if they get a different outcome. That's the definition of clueless. Teams.know how to play us, we don't have a clue how to play a pub team. Dodds has to go. He could reclaim some dignity by resigning rather than getting sacked. No package required or requested. His backroom team need to go with him. Gardiner needs to go. Too many day to day issues, problems and ill will for his position to be anything other than untenable. I know many examples of situations where suggestions have been made to the club, even at their own request just before COVID, but these suggestions or money making leads were completely ignored seemingly because they were not his idea. No idea how true that opinion is other than personal knowledge of one really good lead given to him - by me - that was never followed up on. Ross Morrison may have been a supporter of the club long before he was chairman, and seems like a decent guy when I have encountered him, (or.passed.him that lead) but he is making the same mistake with Gardiner that Kenny C did with Richie Foran. Too much faith and misplaced trust. Time for eyes to be opened and difficult conversations to take place. If he can't show SG a P45 then he needs to award himself one. This is the lowest point our club has been at on its 30 year existence and if we want it to reach any more milestones the rot has to stop NOW.
    17 points
  2. Has anyone asked them to define what they see as "representative". I am sure that currently those goalposts would be moving/travelling more often than Robbo does between Inverness and Dingwall (or Brora) so a straight answer would be impossible whoever asked the question. "Invisible Metric" is definitely an appropriate term here. To an extent this has always been the way. The club, and some figures within it eye 'externals' and by that I mean anyone not explicitly employed by the club, very suspiciously. It does not matter if you are a volunteer at the club during the week, on matchday in some capacity, painting the gates, running a website, being part of a supporters committee, or generally giving of your time in some fashion. At some point - possibly after a change in the boardroom when a new broom sweeps clean - the default position seems to be "What are they after?" followed closely by "We cant have that". In most cases you are pissing against the wind unless you get really assertive or controversial or they know you are going to "publish and be damned". At the end of the day they are relying on the fact we are all ICT fans and do not want to rock the boat too much, or will accept the platitudes. Someone once said you cant put lipstick on a pig !! Thats how low we have sunk when I have to quote that individual about the state of our club! This website has been through every incarnation at boardroom level. With Dougie McGilvray, we were just starting and got the treatment the Trust is getting now. I understand that. Aside from the fact we were new, the internet itself was less developed and media looked at is suspiciously and 'traditional media' dropped poison in the right ears. With Sutherland, Savage, Cameron and all others up to Rae, we and other volunteers were embraced by the club and worked together with them on multiple things to get communication flowing. That included working with Graeme Bennett initially who was keen to have fans included, but the big uptick was when Ken Thompson came on board in the background. He oversaw a culture shift in the attitude that pervaded things right up until the day Kenny Cameron resigned as chairman and Muirfield Mills took the reins. Since then it has been downhill (fast). Ditto. It is free for anyone to express their opinion here provided it doesn't not cross the boundary into defamation/slander/libel or breach good taste enter into bullying and name calling etc. Its all in the rules of the site. Whilst individual posters are legally responsible for their own postings, I will also always protect the site even if it means removing posts that may occasionally not quite cross the line but are headed there fast. Judgement call on that one but I don't expect to agree with all posters, or them with me. I once tried to please all of the people all of the time but gave that up years ago when I realised that was a losing battle! You are. Others are free to disagree and make that point. Neither party should descend into a slagging match though as that makes both guilty of other site rule breaches. I would hope not, but that would just be my personal opinion. The club would not ask anyone for an opinion. On a personal level I did not back a new contract. Getting to the cup final had more to do with Fiona than BD ! At best, a rolling contract we (or he) could terminate with minimal fuss. Lets focus our anger on the club and the officials rather than each other. Allowing them to divide and conquer or encourage disgruntlement in the ranks of the support only weakens us and what should be a loud and combined message of "enough is enough" .
    6 points
  3. It's not the Trust that's 'bleating about the lack of members' though I'm sure they'd like to have as many as possible and likely more than they have now. It's the club that's 'bleating' about how the Trust is not representative enough by whatever invisible metric they've made up in their heads. As I understand it in the previous couple of years the Trust have tried various ways of getting the club to engage with them and address various raised issues going back to the 'Fans Forum'. Remember that thing? The one club had a couple of meetings on, refused to release any minutes of it for months then summarily cancelled any further meetings just before they were supposed to be opened up to the common fan. The matchday survey was they most recent and most labour intensive way they have tried to get the club into a productive dialogue. I hear they club's comments were essentially that it was 'too negative', that's kinda the point Just makes it look like all the club was is to have smoke blown up their ass about how great they are. Any negatively is either just brushed over or even worse makes the club just close off dialogue. I'm not on the Trust but I am a member. I did though used to be on it years ago when it was Caley Jags Together, we had meetings often at the stadium and although we didn't always see eye to eye with the club, we had a pretty open dialogue and they did listen to issues raised and often acted on them to make changes where they could, Kenny Cameron was always willing to sit down and discuss things. I see absolutely nothing from the current (off field) management at the club that would indicate that they have any interest to hear anything fans say either through the Trust or individually. In fact looking at the orange strip on July 12th and weekly games of 'Where's Robbo' I reckon they're having a nice wee laugh about it while pocketing our cash. One day they'll saunter off and our club will be left in shambles if that's not already the case.
    5 points
  4. I don't speak for the Trust, but what I can tell you is that the Trust exists to represent the wider fan base. Proof of that is the Matchday Experience survey which involved a lot of work to get and report on the views of all fans who could be bothered to complete the survey. It was not restricted to members only. The survey results will be useful to the Trust Board in pointing out to the club what the views of the wider fan base are on the issues raised in the survey. But in terms of the credibility of the Board representing the supporters as a whole is concerned, that can only come from those on the Board having the backing of the supporters. As I have said before, Trust Board members are elected by the Trust Members. If people don't join the Trust, then the Club will say the Trust isn't representative of supporters as a whole and will remain disinclined to engage. Now, I absolutely get that you may think the Trust Board is not doing enough or you don't like what they are doing, but you aren't going to change that by bleating from the sidelines. The Trust Board, unlike the Club Board, is a democratically elected body. If you don't like what the current Board members are doing then you have the power to do something about it by joining the Trust and either voting for someone who has views more aligned to your own, or standing for election yourself and see if your views are supported by the membership. Whatever your views of the current Trust Board may be, the fact remains that the current Board members are keeping the Trust functioning. They are keeping the supporters voting stake in the club alive and maintaining some level of communication with the club. They are also the only supporters of this club who, at the moment, appear to be willing to do that on behalf of others. As for this Forum, it is completely separate from the Trust. It exists for exactly for the reason you suggest and therefore you are both an insider and very welcome on here. You would also be free to give your opinion as a member of the Trust. Indeed, your membership of the Trust would make it more, rather than less likely that the changes you would like to see would be taken up by the Trust. You said in an earlier post that radical change is needed. So, what are you going to do about it? The Trust is the mechanism through which supporters can obtain influence and change within the club, but it will only achieve that if far more supporters join the Trust and shape its future. As long as supporters stay outside of the Trust and moan about the Trust and the Club from the sidelines, then they are part of problem. Change happens when some people do something and when others support them in their efforts.
    4 points
  5. Can't say I agree with that statement we needed to win this game. This cup was a good chance to lift morale and get confidence in players just like we did back in 2018. Its still a Semi Major cup not a total diddy like the "Inverness Cup" some seasons aye we can treat it with less priority but this season I just felt we really needed to go for it Let's face brutal reality We're not reaching another Scottish Cup or a League Cup final anytime soon. So I say just go for the Challenge Cup give the fans a day out to look forward to in March. Give the fans and players a distraction from the league. A win yesterday with a strong sqaud would've given them that winning feeling that they will be craving right now.
    3 points
  6. Did you read the link I provided about the Supporters Trust objectives? Their core remit is to represent the interests of the ENTIRE fan community, regardless of whether they are members or not. That is the expectation they have created themselves. As I have said before, they have to give fans something to get behind as an organisation, otherwise they are no better than the club in asking fans to blindly throw money at them in hope that they'll do something, sometime, maybe. I'll welcome the open meeting when it happens, and hope it doesn't just become another "watch this space" in the same way as the minutes of meetings between them and the club did, or the feedback on the meeting with the club following the matchday survey that we're still waiting on. The Trust Board exists to lead the organisation. Sitting back waiting for fans/members to tell them what to do and/or bleating about the lack of members is a cop out and dereliction of their own stated objectives. Take a stance or, at the very least, poll the community on whether or not they would like to see some action. Whilst I do not believe for a moment they are in cahoots with the club, the silence gives the impression that they have no objection to the way things are going.
    3 points
  7. We made 8 changes yesterday, and had a central midfield of 2 inexperienced teenagers (talented though they are). Arbroath took the competition more seriously and fielded a strong side. To me the result didn’t matter much. What does concern me a lot is that defence was a pretty strong line up but still looked all over the place at times and individuals were far too easily beaten when challenging for the ball. Very worrying. A vulnerable defence is a sure fire way to get relegated.
    3 points
  8. I paid my £5 so am a member of the Trust but I’ve not been actively involved. From my knowledge of businesses, the contract extension would have been a Board decision, most likely in response to a recommendation by the CEO. Shareholders, including the Trust, would have played no part in the decision and would not have been aware in advance of the contract being concluded. I welcome the Open Meeting as a positive step by the Trust. They are struggling to get the club to engage with them, which simply highlights the failings we are all concerned about within the club and of those charged with running it. I see how easy it can be to align the Trust with the club, but I disagree with those who have drawn that conclusion. I hope the Open Meeting is well attended as that will help the process of getting change at the club.
    3 points
  9. Again you pump the same theme. ‘Only the Trust is mature enough to represent the fans’. And the rest shut up! I joined the Forum as I considered it a conduit free to ICT fans to communicate anything regarding the team and club they support. - Now if the Forum is solely for the purpose of unofficially promoting the Trust’s ‘Line’ and it’s members recruitment campaign, then fine I know I’m an outsider and not welcome! I like to remain free to give my opinion be it confrontational, stupid or thought provoking on the club’s future progression. So here’s a simple question to whoever can speak for the Trust. ‘Did the Trust vote and back/support the 2 year contract extension for the manager’. That would help me clarify my misinterpretation of the Trust! bc
    3 points
  10. Ffs, you think the trust is in cahoots? Jeezy peeps. I find it odd that folk who don't join the trust seem to think that they have a god given right to have the trust represent their opinion when they have made no effort to engage themselves. And when nothing happens, its the trust at fault. It's not up to the trust to scour the Internet for whatever fan views prevail. Ever decreasing circles.
    3 points
  11. 2-1 win for the ladies today v Dryburgh. Hard fought game with some meaty challenges but a great team performance. We're now 3rd in the Championship.
    2 points
  12. Contracts normally expire at the end of a season so JR's I'd imagine would have already finished and we've extended it. However perhaps not. You'd think the club would announce the contract extension of a senior member of staff and a normal club probably would, however this is ICT so who knows (apart from SG and JR)?
    2 points
  13. Who on the forum is stopping you having or posting whatever opinion you want? Be it regarding the Trust or anything else. If your opinion is a more marginal one that most others don't agree with then so be it. Own it, don't give it the 'woe me' line.
    2 points
  14. Exactly we should always put out our best team in any cup game!
    2 points
  15. A meeting open to anyone who wants to come!! Just confirming the venue and hope you will make it along
    2 points
  16. I was going to take the time to respond to your post in full, then you pull this at the end. The most sanctimonious thing I've seen on here from a fellow fan in a long time. Very disappointing!
    1 point
  17. Those highlights made for painful viewing, but not as painful as listening to Dodds post match interview. He's either very deluded, or thinks fans are stupid, probably a bit of both.
    1 point
  18. I always questioned why this was Dodds first job as a number one at his age, when he has always been a number two! And as for the two year contract, that just smacks of jobs for the boys. His contract was up, the club could have let him walk out the door without compensation, but they decided to give him a two year deal and now he would walk away with a nice tidy sum, if we could afford it, which we can't. I only hope that there are some conditions related to the contract, like we have to have so many wins or so many points by a certain date, but I won't hold my breath on that score. Today's game would have been a great way of getting some form and confidence back into the team, if we had of played our strongest team, instead, we let possibly one of our rivals down at the bottom of the table, get a psychological advantage over us, so we go into our next crucial game, with low expectations, no form, and Dodds no wiser to our best eleven, formation and tactics. I look at all the teams in the league and can't see where any wins will come from.
    1 point
  19. He can fek off to county or anyone else that has money to burn . We certainly don’t have money to waste on him or ceo .
    1 point
  20. I'm finding myself in agreement. Talks a great game but what has he actually achieved, other than alienate a lot of local businesses from wanting anything to do with the club after the concert fiasco? All that orange kit and 12th july nonsense was the final straw for me, the club should never have let itself be lowered to that level! Seems like the chairman has given him free rein of the club to run it as he likes? Might his final act have been, what's becoming blatantly obvious, the mad decision to award dodds another 2 year contract?
    1 point
  21. Ross morrison needs to start now and sort out this continuous mess that the club is in or ship out Blame does lie on him being chairman . He has the final say in running the club with the decisions made by CEO Scott Gardiner and sporting director John Robertson in the running of this club . 8 games now and no win . ‘Unbelievable statistics’ Why are you just carrying on like nothing is happening ? . You’re fuking up the club between you. Loyal supporter ? My arse no loyal supporter behaves like this .
    1 point
  22. A modern footballing irrelevance and reason to turn off altogether
    0 points
  23. Is this for when we play in the HL
    0 points
  24. Stevie could never be called a happy clapper
    0 points
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