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Talks about a lack of strikers, plays Mckay on the halfway line, benches Brooks and puts Bray out on loan. Then begins signing centre backs. Tops it off with signing a player no one else would touch - his son. Total balloon.

Given that we play all sides twice both home and away, another way of comparing the records of SK and DF is to look at how we did with SK in charge of the corresponding fixtures of the 10 games DF was in charge of at the beginning of the season. For example, Ist game of the season was a 1-1 draw at Dumbarton, but when we played them away 2nd time round we won 2-0. So DF's record in his 10 league games this season was: W2, D6, L2, F7, A 7, Pts 12. In the corresponding fixtures later on, SK's record was: W5, D2, L3, F14, A 11, Pts 17. That's probably as good a like for like comparison as we can get, although there will be loads of caveats here as well, no doubt. You can draw your own conclusions, but I would be very happy to see Scott as the manager next season.

I have no point to push. I work with stats every day of the week and the one thing about stats is that, outside of the extremes, you can usually make them say whatever you want. I have no agenda to push for or against SK. I find his press conferences a breath of fresh air. I like that we seem to be winning more games under him, and have clawed back 15 points but I am also concerned that we have seemingly thrown away opportunities to grab points in winnable games without any real explanation why we blew hot one week and so cold the next. The stats suggest he is doing as good a job as many other managers, but you are right, it will all be for nought if we are relegated. His stats down a division are also not necessarily likely to be super high as we will have lower quality players in that lower division ... just like as we rise the divisions we have higher quality. Steve Paterson's stats over 325 games were all from the lower divisions, never the Premiership. Robbo had a lot of Premiership games but he also had higher level players. You will NEVER have a completely 'apples for apples' comparison for any team that has faced relegations, promotions, embargoes or any other kind of situation. What I personally take from the stats, and you are free to take your own conclusions from them, is that SK has made a good start in several areas but also that it is a small sample size compared to others. Until he reaches say 50 games the stats are open to interpretation. What does seem apparent however is that Richie Foran (46 games) and Duncan Ferguson (58 games) were by far our worst managers based on multiple KPIs.

He would have got away with it too ... if it wasnt for those pesky kids (on CTO, the Wyness Shuffle, and the Supporters Trust)

The same Courier of course that were writing about him as some kind of savior when he appeared on the scene despite have multiple red flags that made anyone with half a brain wary of what he was trying to do.

I think you also need to take into account that Ferguson v Kellacher can’t be a like with like comparison in that all of SK’s games have been with a squad that’s been depleted and impoverished by Administration. Fair enough, some of DF’s games were in the championship, but all 23 of SK’s have been under very constrained circumstances.

Just hope the accidental slip and pulled hamstring Musa had on Saturday doesn’t end up his last appearance for us. The guy has been immense for us and probably the one player than has had the most impact in where we are in the league. My player of the season by a Gambian mile. Alfie B draws attention for putting the ball in the net, but unfortunately injury again cut short his stint, (and boy, haven’t we missed him)! bc

Far be it for me to suggest a different podcast to our Wyness Shuffle but Duncan Ferguson is the guest on Stick to Football (Gary Neville, Ian Wright etc). Not had a chance to listen yet but it'll be interesting to hear his story.

caley D, I am not really interested, I will leave that to all the Statto’s on here, remember him from the fantasy football league show with frank skinner and David baddiel. It’s apples and oranges, and makes no difference what manager is the greatest especially when the team may be in free fall. Must be a slow news day when others are wasting their valuable time getting involved in a spat between me and my new good mate, stfu . got my ticket for stenny, season ticket for Arbroath and I am taking my granddaughter to St Andrews for a tennis tournament in a fortnight when after I drop her off on the Saturday morning I will make my way to Dundee and onward with a mate to Montrose for the final game of the season. ( don’t worry my wife is with us and will pick her up when day one of the tournament is over.) spoiler alert, yes I have a mate.

back to the age old cliches though ... Over the years, how often have we heard that "On paper we have a great squad" or even here, the assertion that on paper the stats for SK look good. Regardless of this, the game is played on grass (real or fake) and the paper doesn't matter . Lets hope for 3 points in the next game and drawing ever closer to relegation playoff safety.

Spoiler alert - he blames everyone but himself for the horrendous job he did at ICT. He's a deluded fool.

The one thing about statistics is that 97% of them can be skewed to prove the point that you are trying to make. If someone wants to make Duncan Ferguson look like our best manager ever then they might mention that he only lost 9 of 31 games at home and had a positive goal difference, or that he had a 11 game spell where we only lost twice in October 2023 - November 2023 but the full record speaks for itself. 58 games, comprising 17 wins, 21 draws and 20 losses. If you look at the fixture list, it is the draws, and the lacklustre manner of those draws that were the killer. Scott on the other hand has now managed 24 games. and has won 12, lost 9 and drawn only 3. We have less draws, but at this early stage he has lost more (percentage wise) than DF. He has also got 12 wins in only 24 games so a win % of 50% which is best of any manager we have had. You could argue any of these statistics to favour Scott or to discredit him. I quickly threw all the numbers into Excel so they could be compared side-by-side. The numbers take no account of what league we were in, how much money we had or whether we were in admin like now. These are caveats the statisticians can put on any figure to dispute it. I have also ranked the managers based on their percentage of wins, draws, non-wins, non-losses, and PPG figure. It should be noted that the PPG figure is also subjective as I did not have time to deep dive into the record of each manager and see how many of their games were league or cup so I awarded 3pts for a win regardless of competition and 1pt for a draw and simply divided that by total games. After getting those numbers together I ranked each of our managers on their individual career records 1-12 to give them a total number of points based on where they are in the rankings for each column. I then ranked all of the managers based on their rank points in each of those categories to see who finished top. The lower the number of points in this case the better. Scott Kellacher is currently top based on that small sample of his games, with Robbo and Paterson behind. Richie Foran finishes last with Fergie just behind him. I would argue that this seems to match the sentiment over the years on here and as a new manager SK is likely higher than where he will end up as he will find his level and likely drop down over a larger sample of matches, but its a pretty good start to be fair. Yes he is not in the Championship or the Premiership like other managers before him, but no-other manager has had the squad constraints for administration so the playing field is as level as it can be I think. Like all statistics - you are free to agree, disagree or think they are full of ****

Out of interest, how would you compare the performance of both managers? I agree that STFU's method isn't ideal, but I can't think of a method that is better suited, and you are kinda making an argument that says managers can never be compared. I was once an expert at digging myself into these kinds of holes

It's not just allowing the members to have their say, it is having an opportunity for the Trust Board to explain to members what they plan to do in relation to their shares and their voting rights and for members to ask questions relating to that. Since Gardiner has gone and is no longer able to obstruct the Trust in all it tried to do, the Trust has been doing a brilliant job in supporting the club. I hope that they have been having discussions with AS about how they can be involved in the decision making process going forward. Now that AS has been confirmed as preferred bidder, it might now be appropriate for the Trust say a little bit more than they would have been able to say earlier and an EGM would be a good place to do it. Like Don, I am not a fan of what is being done or how it is being done, but I don't see any viable alternative. I do believe that Alan Savage has the good of the club at heart, but there remains a little niggle that with total control, he could sell out to the likes of Ketan Makwana who, according to the Courier has now appointed a certain Scot Gardiner as one of his specialist Advisors!

Depends how admin works out. Let's assume it goes well. We've currently got a small squad, full-time, that's garnered (excluding penalty) enough points to be comfortably in the playoffs. I'm not sure there's many moving to the Championship and part-time probably doesn't appeal. So that leaves Cove and QoS, assuming one of them doesn't get promoted, and presumably Airdrie. Many of those will have a settled squad, so how many of ours will they need, and will they have significantly more money after we solve our financial problems? I can certainly see a turnover but with an enhanced squad and no admin, I see ICT as a desirable place for many footballers. Can't see us losing many to Montrose or Stenny. I think we might be getting players from them.

Already helping. Coaching the Womens Team and the Academy Goalkeepers. Off to the Lilywhites for next season. Mon the Clach!

When I think of a community type stadium within the UHI I come up with something that’s suitable for a highland/lowland league type setup. I’m all for moving to another stadium if it helps us in the long run but we get attendances of a mid table championship side at the very minimum. I hope it wouldn’t end up being one of these astro soulless grounds that are being knocked up around the country. Ainslie Park or something similar to KPark spring to mind.