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Lest we ever forget the day the Caley went Feckin Ballistic.

I really don't like this "happy clapper" pish! Like it's a bad thing to be supportive of the team you support. Like I'm not supposed to be hopeful of MY team doing well. That I should be ridiculed for trying to be positive when 'the chips are down'?! whats the feckin point of being a FAN, a SUPPORTER if you can't be supportive of your team and the players/management?! The world's a bag o ***** the now anyway, why do I want to come on a forum for my beloved ICT and read or post miserable doom and gloom pish when that's all that's going on everywhere else anyway. feck me, there's some on here that would find criticism if we were currently challenging the tic for the league feckin title!! Angry and pissed off and critical when they play bad-aye! Do I have to be an angry troll all the time-naw! But if yer naw an angry troll you're a happy clapper and this is somehow a bad thing?

I had my work mobile and when we scored first I phoned my father in law a Celtic supporter, I had just got through when they equalised, phoned again when we scored again and he just laughed at me saying Celtic weren't finished, phoned again when we scored the third goaland he told me to **** off and put the phone down

It must be part of the reason why CTO doesn't seem anywhere near as busy as it used to be. Anything critical posted, no-matter how accurate is immediately shot down by the Together We Believe... mob. Sad!

Stockley and Storey would walk in. Pawlett wouldn't stay upright long enough.

Aberdeen had a front 3 of Stockley , Pawlett and Storey , all of them would walk into our senior starting 11 so 3 nil maybe wasn't so bad a result .

So we shouldn't post rumours at all then? Should we just keep quiet when he hear or think anything that doesn't fit with the happy clapper rhetoric? You're free to ignore if you want but that doesn't make it go away or mean isn't true.

just sayin....

Three must win games and not a single performance in any of them that suggested that team had a must win attitude. We were poor against Partick, shocking against Hamilton and marginally better against Dundee with the second half showing a degree of fight but there is little point putting that effort in when you are already two goals down. Fact is we needed that second half performance as a minimum last Saturday and for the two games that followed. We now find ourselves with some exceptionally difficult pre split games to face up to, hope we can get something from them and also that teams above us don't pull away too much. Partick, Hamilton and Dundee were games were we could have bought ourselves some valuable points to put us ahead of other sides going into our tough run. On the positive side I thought Billy King had his best game for us all season. He's often had one good half and one subdued half but I thought he really impressed. He took a fair leathering off the Dundee players. Tremarco was also good and Mckay was a class above. Yes both his penalties were very weak but his hold up play was superb and he did well to make something out of those thumping long balls we insist on the playing. An absolutely awful crowd. Take out the Dundee fans and how many home supporters were there? 2,200 maybe? Looked like you could have put everyone in the North Stand. A real shame that at a time when the club needs all the support it can get people aren't getting along to games to get behind the team. Going off topic for a second... As for John Hughes I doubt he cares to be honest. He stopped caring for ICT when he started slagging off the club in the public domain. He worked his ticket very well and comes out of it all looking like he has been harshly treated when he fact he was thoroughly unprofessional in airing dirty laundry in public (as was KC). You could even argue that part of our downturn was sown by Hughes himself. Under Butcher we lost good players but tended to bring new ones in to replace them. Yes sometimes it was very hit and miss but for the most part the recruitment, however it worked, under Butcher typically replaced players we lost. This stopped under Hughes. When the likes of Billy Mckay left it took months for a replacement to be found. The wrong areas of the team were strengthened with bang average players whilst other parts (attack and defence) were ignored. The 'recycling' of players ground to a halt under Hughes as he filled the team with midfielders and it become incredibly unbalanced. His first full season with us was fantastic and he proved a lot of doubters, including myself, wrong however his second full season was typical Hughes as he has been with other clubs. Steadfastly refusing to adapt his style when he had been found out, poor recruitment, publicly whoring our best player to Celtic, high fiving Celtic fans and ignoring ICT fans at games, mind numbingly dull football especially at home, demands for more money then a public falling out with the board and some players (much like he had done at Falkirk by all accounts), the list goes on. His time was up and he knew it. By the end there was no longer any 'promising set up'. The stability that we had seen from ICT over a number of years was slowly ebbing away and we now find ourselves in an incredible mess. I am not saying Hughes is solely to blame. Kenny Cameron and the board should shoulder a fair chunk of responsibility as well as Foran. As mentioned on other threads Foran has also demonstrated poor tactical awareness and bizarre team selections throughout this season which have contributed to where we now find ourselves. At the end of the day I don't believe it is one person who is responsible for this mess. It's a collective effort but there's no point fawning over Hughes or Butcher or anyone else. They've gone. Deal with it. What matters now is we get behind the team and support them to get over the line and stay in this league and hopefully kick on from there.

How true!

U20's go out on what's called a "Development Loan" and this allows them to still play these games for their home club. The Brown referred to is Chris and not Jason....as he's no longer in the U20's then he's out on standard loan terms and can't play in development matches.

The reality is success requires one to be objective so that one can understand what is good and what is poor. You can then build on the former and address the latter. It seems to me that there are a number of posters who are reluctant to acknowledge either what is good or what is poor about the team and are intolerant of those who express views different from their own. Seeing as we are bottom of the table it must be obvious to even the happiest of happy clappers that all is not perfect, but equally, that does not mean that everything is wrong. Surely there is much to talk about and folk should be free to express their views and expect rational responses in reply rather than being shot down without one.

"Nail on head "comes to mind Renegade .Well said !!!

Have a look at our injury list after we played Astra, half a team was missing yet JH still got results. I'm not surprised he was pushing for more funds we had lost Shinnie and Watkins and he wanted the momentum he had built to continue, how can you blame someone for having that ambition, I don't buy the line "working your ticket" I don't believe Hughes wanted to leave the club but the board thought they could pull a master stroke and sack Hughes, what a joke that turned out to be. The home display against Astra minus our two best players was the most controlled match I have seen from an ICT team and I've been watching them since Patterson's time, only a goalkeeping mistake and the loss of Watkins cost us that night. We have thrown away his legacy, the team is a shambles, as proven by two points from Partick, Hamilton and Dundee two of those at home.You can soften reality any way you like but the bottom line is this shambles of a season lies at the board's door,not JH's and not RF's. As I've already said, we have thrown away two and a half years of work which was instilled into the team system that gave them an element of control in games even when we had average players/reserves filling the jerseys, what a waste.

I read as far as "According to the BBC" then started laughing uncontrollably 12th Man it's all very well being a happy clapper but at the very least try and put forward a good case Dougal

Can't believe the number of happy clappers on this thread, I watched two pretty poor teams, we lost two goals a decent amateur side would be ashamed of and Dundee should have put us away just after half time they missed two gilt edged opportunities, it says it all I'm afraid about Scotland's top flight. Based on that performance, despite the fightback we are going down, we have no shape, no style, our defending is laughable, passes into feet don't stick, the first touch of most players is appalling, players in space play chest high passes and our forward play is based on hopeful balls played in the general direction of the forwards. I can't believe a team which looked so organised for the last two seasons could degenerate so quickly but it has. JH must be aghast watching what passes for an ICT team. To all those who lobbied for RF to replace JH I hope you are enjoying what you are watching, sometimes, you should be careful what you wish for. The fact is, despite a horrendous injury list last season JH picked up results when we had no right to expect them, that's what twenty years management experience brings. The decision by the board to get rid of an experienced manager and appoint a complete rookie on a four year contract will go down as one of the greatest ever blunders in football. All the hubris of the summer has now evaporated, go back and watch the interview with Kenny Cameron and RF and laugh out loud. Feel free to red dot me as much as you want I couldn't care less, I am angry at how a promising set up and style of play for the club was tossed in the garbage after two and a half years of hard work to be replaced by this rubbish.Were I JH I would be shaking my head at the sheer lunacy of it.

I was watching Sky Soccer Saturday when the score came up....Queen of the South 1 Morton 0 - 71min...I screamed NOOOO! at the TV... then the next one to come up was Queens Park 2 East Fife 2 - 72 min...I screamed YEEEEES at the TV. This contest is getting to me

I think supporters of Hughes tend to overstate the problems caused by injuries last season. This is probably both because he complained about it so much and because the previous cup winning year was so remarkably injury free in comparison. If you look at our key defenders, Warren was out early in the season with a leg break but came back much sooner than I expected and was ever present after that. Meekings had a period out (as he has this year) but the big difference between this year and last is that this year we have McNaughton out for most of the season whereas last season Danny Devine had the most starts of any of our outfield players. Devine actually played very well to the extent that Hughes preferred him in the centre to Meekings. On Warren's return, Hughes therefore had options between Meekings and Raven at right back and also between Tremarco and Williams on the left. Those options look a good deal stronger than is available to Foran just now. Elsewhere in the side OFW was provided as cover for Brill's injury and then kept his place when Brill returned to fitness. Foran himself was always listed as long term injured but frankly he was never going to return as anything more than a fringe player. The joker in the pack was Roberts who seemed to go from one injury to the next without kicking a ball. He looked as though he might have been a decent signing but we never saw enough of him to find out. The big miss was Doran who has also missed quite a chunk of this season as well. Others who were injured were the likes of Fisher, Sho-Silva, & Ferguson who were hardly going to be game changers had they been fit. Hughes had the central midfield options of Draper, Tansey, Polworth and Vigurs available to him virtually all season along with Storey and Willams. On balance therefore, I don't think there is really much difference in the overall injury situation between last year and this. Had Hughes still been here, his record suggests he would not have signed such attack minded players as King, Cole, Anier Mulraney and Mckay. We may be bottom but I am still looking forward to the rest of the season. I wasn't saying that this time last year.

However if you like stats, According to the BBC, we had 13 shots with 10 on target on Saturday. Go back to our 2-1 Dundee defeat and it was 20 shots and only 3 on target. Only one shot on goal every 30 minutes. That tells me things are vastly improving

Boooo go away happy clapper your not welcome round these parts.

Renegade do you really want to be posting things like no one is speaking to player X and he's now going else where as no one likes him.