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The Forensic Audit

Think this will be deserving of its own thread as details emerge of the sheer state of our finances ... but let me start controversially by saying THANK YOU to Ketan Makwana !

image.jpegThe utter nonsense of your 'takeover' bid, the corporate phygital gobbledygook coming out of your mouth or your linked in page, and your history at companies house woke up some of our giants of the past in Messrs. McGilvray, Sutherland and Savage. You were the straw that broke the camel's back, the final grand scheme that saw all of our CEO's cards collapse, that one domino that started the progression that will surely see more dominoes fall. I want you nowhere near our club, but you can take heart that even without buying the club with imaginary money, you may well have played a part in saving it. Clearly the reality of our situation is far worse than even the most cynical fan expected now that we have had some straight talking from Alan Savage and it all started with the idea that 77Ventures were random new owners overnight just a few weeks ago.     

But onto the main focus of this thread - the money, or more specifically the lack of it or of any oversight on that front. 

AS went in just 3 days ago and in that time he has discovered that we are not £300K adrift, that quickly ballooned to £450K then £700K and now closer to £900K. We don't have new strips FOR THE TEAM let alone the fans, because we have not paid the bills, and we apparently have a pre-order for £120K of strips sitting with Puma as part of that £900K. Given that the average cost of a strip is around £50 retail that's 2400 strips, but profits on these are decent so do we really have upwards of 3-4000 new strips waiting to be sold once we pay for them wholesale first? Not having strips for the start of the season is right up there with not having seats for the Tynecastle stands and having twice as many as we get at the stadium on a good crowd day, sitting in a container somewhere is as ludicrous as it sounds.  

I am sure AS will discover all sorts of 'anomalies', unexplained or lets say 'less than optimal' spending as he goes through the accounts with a fine-tooth comb, but my ire on that one is directed back at the board. How in f*** was there no oversight on this. SG did what SG was there to do. To operate as the CEO of ICTFC. The fact he seemingly did that without a shred of governance is not his fault. His performance and ability to do it correctly and economically should have been something benchmarked on a regular basis by the board. Did he have no performance reviews since 2019? If not, why not? Thats not a failing of SG, that's a failing of the board.  

Red flags have been around for a while. I recall the comment about Ryan Christie buying footballs for the youth team and I think that's what Charlie is referring to in today's article in the Courier which is well worth a read. The last three days with Alan Savage and now acting CEO Charlie Christie have seen more public communication from the club in 3 days than we have experienced in the last 5 years since the former CEO was put in post. https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/sport/this-club-for-far-too-long-has-been-losing-too-much-money-358498/

A few great bullets raised by Charlie: 

  • He is confident that working alongside Savage, it will lead to the club having a brighter future.
  • The staff get frustrated too and a lot of that has been from resources.
  • He, as academy manager, has had to do without things that were needed.
  • The mood at the club has been great since Alan came in. Some of the staff don’t know him. He is fair, but demanding - and very professional..
  • He will want a paper trail for everything, as there should be.
  • He will want more corporate governance in his time at the club and I don’t think that's much to ask. It is good for any business to have that. That’s what he’ll bring.
  • We’re all delighted because we feel it is a step in the right direction.
  • Watching the ill-feeling towards individuals at the end of last season, it is not good for Caley Thistle. It is something I’ve never seen. Fans have a go at managers, myself included, after poor performances. That goes with the territory. But not what we witnessed last year at times. Hopefully that’s dead in the water now and we can move on.

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I like the comments I have heard that some creditors are already paid, and the things Charlie mentions in that article. I especially like the comment that the mood at the club has improved. there are many hard-working and crucial folks down there doing thankless tasks who do not need to be micro managed and for them to finally be able to exhale and maybe show what they are capable of is a relief. We do have to get back to basics, we do have to stop all the pie-in-the-sky bullshit and the loss of money hand-over-fist. We do have to put football first and try to get out of this league and back up to the Championship and hopefully over time, the Premiership. One step at a time, one obstacle at a time, and all in a sustainable or responsible manner. 

With Charlie and Alan Savage at the helm now, I think this is a good start to the process but let's not stop looking inwards. The CEO was allowed to do what he did for many years, and those who allowed that, or didn't bother to look at what he was doing also need to take accountability for that. 

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Yep, Read this earlier, Could maybe reference to an earlier enquiry re possible administration or maybe something a bit more ominous.   Either way we could do with a statement from the acting chairman.

Oh no 😢. I honestly thought the club would avoid this scenario. On the plus side surely Ferguson and co will be relieved of there duties 

Perhaps not surprising news, but certainly very disappointing and worrying news.  It looks like those Directors past and present and our former CEO remain determined to squeeze every last penny out of the club that they are responsible for getting into this mess in the first place.  Let's just hope that as disaster looms, one or more of them shows some level of contrition and decency to minimise the damage they have caused.  Certainly don't expect all of them to.

 

16 minutes ago, LisleRightPeg said:

Oh no 😢. I honestly thought the club would avoid this scenario. On the plus side surely Ferguson and co will be relieved of there duties 

Surely if you read between the lines, Savage has been implying all along that it would be hard to avoid.

36 minutes ago, caley100 said:

Yep, Read this earlier, Could maybe reference to an earlier enquiry re possible administration or maybe something a bit more ominous.   Either way we could do with a statement from the acting chairman.

The document they have seen is dated to last Friday, so that suggests that the enquiry is very recent.  However, there's nothing in the rest of the article, other than the corny name "Operation Kessock", to suggest that the document is anything other than generic boilerplate outlining the steps and implications of administration.  The type of document you'd keep on file and send out in response to an initial enquiry.

Having said that, this is a massive breach of confidentiality at either BDO or at the club.  Or a deliberate leak to concentrate the minds of potential investors?

I agree that some sort of statement is required.

The club has been taking advice from an 'insolvency practitioner' for a few months, so this leaked document must be confirmation that the administration process is now underway?

Fingers and toes crossed it goes the Hearts way, rather than returning as 'The Inverness Caledonian Thistle'

The ante up on the poker game between AS and the old guard♠️♦️

This is at least the third, or maybe even the fourth time since early summer that this “administration” line has emerged from the club, and on each of the previous occasions it has been fairly quickly (on one occasion within nine hours) been countermanded by a statement that something or other has been “fixed” by people agreeing to do something, and everyone can breathe easily again.

l’m not sure whether various possible analogies include The Grand Old Duke Of York and The Boy Who Cried Wolf?

46 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

This is at least the third, or maybe even the fourth time since early summer that this “administration” line has emerged from the club, and on each of the previous occasions it has been fairly quickly (on one occasion within nine hours) been countermanded by a statement that something or other has been “fixed” by people agreeing to do something, and everyone can breathe easily again.

l’m not sure whether various possible analogies include The Grand Old Duke Of York and The Boy Who Cried Wolf?

Things are bad enough Charles without bringing Prince Andrew into the equation.

😀👑

52 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

This is at least the third, or maybe even the fourth time since early summer that this “administration” line has emerged from the club, and on each of the previous occasions it has been fairly quickly (on one occasion within nine hours) been countermanded by a statement that something or other has been “fixed” by people agreeing to do something, and everyone can breathe easily again.

l’m not sure whether various possible analogies include The Grand Old Duke Of York and The Boy Who Cried Wolf?

Yes, agreed. 
A few more turns, twists and paper chase headlines to feed the natives to come before a clear settled position is reached between AS and the ‘Rest’ (Morrison and other major stakeholders). Gardener will be a separate show settled much later I envisage with the final cost buried in some future accounts. 

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Is this article not written by our former CEO's ally at the Courier? I do wonder if this is an attempt to cause further damage to the club, certainly any new investigator is going to think twice now. Hopefully the club will provide some clarity today.

46 minutes ago, Downinthedumps said:

Things are bad enough Charles without bringing Prince Andrew into the equation.

😀👑

Why not?  He's still the Earl of Inverness  :pukeleft:

1 hour ago, Downinthedumps said:

Things are bad enough Charles without bringing Prince Andrew into the equation.

😀👑

Cracker!!!😂😂

2 hours ago, Downinthedumps said:

Things are bad enough Charles without bringing Prince Andrew into the equation.

😀👑

I await the club’s next annoncement (hope I got my spelling right).

4 hours ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

The document they have seen is dated to last Friday, so that suggests that the enquiry is very recent.  However, there's nothing in the rest of the article, other than the corny name "Operation Kessock", to suggest that the document is anything other than generic boilerplate outlining the steps and implications of administration.  The type of document you'd keep on file and send out in response to an initial enquiry.

Having said that, this is a massive breach of confidentiality at either BDO or at the club.  Or a deliberate leak to concentrate the minds of potential investors?

I agree that some sort of statement is required.

I’m not by any means saying that this isn’t the real thing, but across the summer there have been enough U-turns on the Administration issue (one of these on a timescale of just nine hours), to make it worth waiting for a formal announcement before totally believing anything.

It's good he is no longer on the Board, but there is still a charge registered by him on the Companies House site.  We had previously been informed that Munro, Morrison and Cameron had agreed a combination of writing off their loans or having them converted into equity in order to help the club out of this mess.  There is, as yet, no sign of this happening.  The longer it takes for them to do the decent thing, the more it looks like they are set to try and squeeze as much money as they can out of the club regardless of the consequences.  

1 hour ago, DoofersDad said:

It's good he is no longer on the Board, but there is still a charge registered by him on the Companies House site.  We had previously been informed that Munro, Morrison and Cameron had agreed a combination of writing off their loans or having them converted into equity in order to help the club out of this mess.  There is, as yet, no sign of this happening.  The longer it takes for them to do the decent thing, the more it looks like they are set to try and squeeze as much money as they can out of the club regardless of the consequences.  

Virtuous acts are not the natural leaning for these Gents. Who knows, come the time they may see there’s more to life than money🤞

I can’t believe the club hasn’t issued a statement to update the fans who have dug deep to support the club 😢

Well, whatever the financial labyrinth we inhabit, the good news is we have signed a forward on loan until January:

 

https://ictfc.com/charlie-reilly-joins-ictfc-on-loan/

 

Sound like a very promising young lad, hope he can give us a lift and bang some goals in, that will change the atmosphere around the place and lift us up the table.

1 hour ago, Yngwie said:

Why? Have I missed something here?

Yes.  You have either missed Scotty's post immediately above mine which has a screen shot from Companies House, or, if you were wondering why it is good he is no longer on the Board, it is because he has been on the Board since November 2019 and therefore must shoulder some responsibility for the mess the Board have allowed the Club to get into.

The majority of the Board are millionaires but seem delighted to bring ICT to its knees.  How they sleep at night I don't know.  Hell mend all of them but especially the ex CEO who was the instigator. 

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