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I have no problem with OFW holding out until he gets a contract he feels is right for him. However, until then, he has a contract with us and it is reasonable to expect him to play for us if the manager asks him to. If he keeps saying he's picked up a niggle in training the day before a game then increasingly other clubs are not going to offer him a new contract. His behaviour is bizarre and self destructive.

The club was more than happy when it was getting thousands from when Fon Williams was away at the Euros. Fon Williams has a contract and he's more than within his rights to want it to be honoured. And why should he look for something new? He has gotten himself a good deal and made the club plenty of money - he's well within his rights to sit tight, I know I would.

From what I heard from Robbo at the open meeting, OFW instigated the relegation release clause himself - it wasn't the club. I fully appreciate he was playing with an injury last season & applaud him for that (as I did at the time) - would also accept this is a cause of some of his erratic performances last season. However - Robbo categoricaly stated that he has TURNED DOWN OFFERS FROM OTHER CLUBS - how can you justify that? Including an offer from the USA, I believe (apparently that's what he'd like to do). If he goes, all tbe best to him. I'm not against the club supporting players (of course I'm not!), but I find it hard to see how the club is in the wrong here. If the club were that ruthless, they wouldn't be supporting Aaron Doran with his career threatening injury, would they! We would all be (quite rightly) up in arms as well...

Sorry guys, much as I want our rivals to fail, what the Govan cheats have done to Scottish football is unforgiveable and I can't support them against anybody...not even County

Good, and encouraging, post Finmack. I especially liked the bit about our Chairperson coming down from the Ivory tower to thank the players for a good show on the day. That alone is very important information to learn about for overseas fans and even more-so for the home fans who regularly support the team in person. It seems as if our new Management knows how to win friends and influence people. Things may be really looking up now. So let's not forget to give John Robertson a pat on the back as well. "Slow and steady wins the race " said the rueful hare to the tortoise as he woke up from his slumber in the ditch to just see the tortoise crawling over the winning line. "You've got to crawl before you run" quoth the wily tortoise as he relished his victory.

2007-2015 were not great years for TFC. There were a few bright spots of mediocrity in an otherwise sh***y existence, yet the stalwarts continued to go and support the team through all of the highs and lows. Last year was was good even though we fell at the final hurdle, but this season has been amazing so far and TFC have already broken a few club records - with 7 games to go - such as most points in a season, most wins in a season and a few others .... now they are on track to shatter a few league records too ! Another fine win last night against rivals Montreal Saw this article on the MLS website today and it dawned on me just how close TFC's current team are to being the best performers in MLS. ever !!! Wow ! https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/08/27/chasing-history-toronto-fc-pace-one-greatest-seasons-ever With seven matches left to play in the 2017 regular season, Toronto FC are currently on pace to log one of the greatest single seasons in MLS history. Having already captured the 2017 Canadian Championship crown back in June, here are some of the other all-time marks within reach of the Reds: Supporters' Shield No Canadian club has ever won the trophy awarded to the team with the best record during the regular season. Toronto FC are nine points clear with seven matches to go. Toronto FC: 56 pts New York City FC: 47 pts Columbus Crew SC: 42 pts Seattle Sounders FC: 42 pts Chicago Fire: 41 pts Portland Timbers: 41 pts Most Points Toronto FC are chasing the LA Galaxy's 68 points in 1998 (shootout era) and the 67 points by the 2011 LA Galaxy (post-shootout era). Toronto FC are currently at 56 points with 21 points still available for the taking. LA Galaxy (1998): 68 pts LA Galaxy (2011): 67 pts San Jose Earthquakes (2012): 66 pts San Jose Earthquakes (2005): 64 pts Seattle Sounders (2014): 64 pts Most Points Per Game Only three teams in MLS history have registered 2.0 points per game or more. Toronto FC are currently second all-time: LA Galaxy (1998): 2.13 ppg Toronto FC (2017): 2.07 ppg* Miami Fusion (2001): 2.04 ppg San Jose Earthquakes (2005): 2 ppg * = 7 matches left to play Most Wins In the post-shootout era (since 2000), this record is held by the 2014 Seattle Sounders with their 20 wins. Toronto FC are at 16 wins with seven matches left to play. Seattle Sounders (2014): 20 wins LA Galaxy (2011): 19 wins San Jose Earthquakes (2012): 19 wins Six teams tied with 18 wins Fewest Losses Toronto FC will need to go undefeated the rest of the way to own this mark all by themselves: Toronto FC (2017): 3* FC Dallas (2010): 4 Real Salt Lake (2010): 4 San Jose Earthquakes (2005): 4 Five teams tied with 5 losses * = 7 matches left to play Most Goals Scored With 55 goals scored and seven matches left to play, Toronto FC will like their chances of breaking into this all-time Top 5: LA Galaxy (1998): 85 goals D.C. United (1998): 74 goals San Jose Earthquakes (2012): 72 goals D.C. United (1997): 70 goals LA Galaxy (2014): 69 goals Best Goal Differential The 1998 LA Galaxy (+41) and the 2014 LA Galaxy (+32) logged the best goal differential totals in league history. After their 3-1 win in Montreal on August 27, Toronto FC are currently at +29 (55 goals scored vs. 26 goals allowed). LA Galaxy (1998): +41 LA Galaxy (2014): +32 Toronto FC (2017): +29* San Jose Earthquakes (2012): +29 D.C. United (1998): +26 Real Salt Lake (2010): +25 * = 7 matches left to play

As per my earlier post, Robbo does indeed to be getting the best out of Vigurs - he has, I feel, been one of (if not THE) best players so far this season....

If, as we hear, OFW is injured and we continue to pay him he should be at the stadium DAILY for treatment. Maybe this is the case but I doubt it somehow.

If OFW is on a wage of say £2,000 a week and is told that he is free to leave ICT he isn't obligated to accept any old offer from a club that comes in for him. You'd imagine that he'll be after a club that will pay him similar to what he is currently on and might not be so willing to take a huge wage cut. Can't imagine that many teams will be him as great value for money especially after some of the howlers he's had over the last season.

Really lively performance from Ryan Christie against Partick on Saturday, gets one goal, wins a penalty (should have had a second) and provides the assist for the winner

Fair comment. I agree that it would have been better had it happened at the other end of the park - but it's still funny!

Football is not a charity, JingsMonty. Why should the player not look out for his own interest when he is released, possibly against his will or possibly unfairly as well? Your opinion does suggest that he should live in a fairyland of unreality. For one thing, I have not seen conclusive proof that he is not suffering from his constantly painful injured bodypart. If he is, what chance does he have of getting another goalie position in the near future. Any club that sees him as a future prospect will be sure to give him a very intense medical examination and all evidence points to the fact that he can be out of football for a long time. So his family has to starve in the meantime, eh? In that event would the consciences of those on our current Board give them sleepless nights once OFW is out of sight and out of mind? Frankly, if OFW were to consider the course of action you seem to favour I think he would later simply rue the day. Who does he contact to fight his battles for him against a fairly large corporation, study his contract and come up with a reasoned defence of his position in order to ensure that the injuries he suffered are not used by the club to dump him on the scrapheap? Only a probably expensive Lawyer who, in turn, may well have his own interests to the fore and attempts to drag out the process to his (the lawyer's) benefit. Personally speaking, based on fairly recent performances whilst still injured, I feel that it could very well be that OFW's career is well-nigh finished. If he is entitled to compensation then that should be fairly negotiated and paid out swiftly. Then ICT's name remains untarnished and their reputation as fair dealers enhanced. Which will in itself help to attract the right kind of player in all future dealings. I agree on one point though and that is if he is , on the surface at least, fit to play then he should be in the team to share Ridger's responsibilities to the mutual benefit of himself , Ridgers and the club. Because we need a top class goalie to allow us to move ahead to the top of this league .

I know that Don has made strong criticism of CJT previously. I am not particularly bothered about the history of the organisation but I am concerned about the future. The club is going through a critical rebuilding phase and there is a potential for some close shareholder votes which might shape the future of the club. If CJ T has a 10% voting stake then it is essential that the legitimacy of CJT to use that vote is beyond challenge both from a legal standpoint and in its representation of the fans views. It is clear that currently CJ T fails on both counts. It is therefore essential that the work Liz refers to addresses the points Don makes and we need an early and detailed response to his points to ensure that the functionality of CJT satisfies the legal requirements. Beyond that, we need to ensure CJT has mechanisms in place which actively seek the views of its members. Whether that is done by current CJT Board members or by a new Board will depend on the willingness of others to put their names forward to serve. It is always easy to criticise others, but a lot harder to actually do the work yourself. If supporters want the 10% voting stake retained then it is up to us all to play our part in ensuring that the future CJT Board fulfills its obligations better than it has in the past.

Was nervous about this after the absolute car crash of a performance at East End Park, but in the end it was more comfortable than I could have hoped. There wasn't a great deal in the first half - we probably had slightly more of the ball, but chances were pretty even. Looks like Vigurs got a bit lucky with a deflection for our first, and Mckay wasn't really challenged for his header back across goal for the second. We pretty much controlled the second half, though, and it was good to see the likes of Polworth playing with freedom and confidence. The key to our improvement over the past couple of games seems to have been the introduction of Charlie Trafford. I wasn't up for the Morton game, so this was my first look at him. He seems a very unfussy player and just sits in front of the defence, looking to break up attacks and then hold the ball until he can send someone away, but having him there allows Vigurs to try to dictate play a little further forward and allows Polworth, who looked much improved yesterday, to drive forward. Connor Bell also impressed, playing in a left-sided attacking role for most of the game before moving to the right when Calder game on, and I'd have him starting on one of those sides in place of Mulraney from now on. On the other side, Cooper contributed less, especially in the first half, but his movement and composure for his goal were excellent. I'm still unconvinced by our defence: Raven had a solid game, but Elsdon, Mckay and Chalmers are all capable of looking hasty in the challenge and uncertain in possession. They weren't troubled all that often, but against teams with tricky, pacey attacking players such as Cardle, they will struggle. Having Gary Warren and particularly Carl Tremarco back should make a difference, however, as much for their leadership qualities and presence as their defensive ability. It was great to see another decent travelling support getting right behind the team. The stewarding of the young team looked pretty heavy-handed to me, as if they were expecting trouble from the start. Otherwise, it's a cracking set-up at Brechin, with the wee bar beneath the stand and the ability to move easily between stand and terraces. A bit of a faff to get to from Glasgow if you don't drive, though, so I won't be bothering going up for this Challenge Cup nonsense against Aberdeen colts next week. Looking forward to the rest of September: intriguing fixtures against clubs I have't seen us play for a few years - St Mirren, Livvy, Dumbarton and Queens - and we should have a much clearer idea of how the team is developing and how we match up in this division by the end of the month.

Polworth was my man of the match today. Good performances from Cooper, Trafford, Raven and Vigurs for his two goals. When we get our injured players playing again, I can see a chink of light at the end of the tunnel. AND THATS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE SAID LAST WEEK. It was nice to see our Chairman at the front of the stand clapping our players as they left the field.

It may be Brechin but they have drawn with Livi and were unlucky against the Arabs. We were really under pressure not to get beat today. So 4-0 is a season starting result ?

Early clearance from Ridgers ends up in the famous Brechin hedge...new ball required. New ball needed again as Elsdon fires one in the hedge Now you don't get this at the Bernabeu. Lower league football has a charm all of its own.

If I recall correctly from the open night, Robbo said that Fon Williams had a release clause in his contract if ICT got relegated, so why is he still here? Should he not be a free agent now? Surely he can't have it both ways. He doesn't want to play but wants paid! And as I recall when Robbo was talking about the new players bedding in and it would take time, a supporter down the front said, play your best defender Raven then, and if I heard correctly, Robbo's answer was, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I know he said that his legs have gone, but he still has an experienced defensive brain and he can be an influence to the younger players. In my opinion you always need a blend of youth and experience. Time will tell.

Really? Fon Williams brought us tens of thousands of pounds from being at the Euros and had had a good season the year before. Brill had a terrible injury and may never have been the same again. He's been at two clubs since and both times been unable to get a first team appearance before presumably retiring as a player. The Brill that we could've kept could well not have been a patch on the one we had before and at the time, retaining Fon Williams over him was an entirely logical thing to do.