Joint statement from Caley Jags Together and the Ross County Supporters Club.

 

1 hour ago, jagster said:

They have been great the last couple of games singing and bouncing etc really adds a good atmosphere to the North Stand even the 4 youngsters at the front of section g were singing twirling their scarves etc hopefully it bodes well for the future let's try and encourage rather than discourage them with stewards who seem determined to stand and stare at them like yesterday.                                            they seem like decent youngsters 

The stewards were there to ensure crowd safety.  If the club are to take a "lenient" approach to rules on standing, then they also need to ensure they cover their butt and can react in proper fashion should anything happen as a result of that.  As far as I can ascertain, they simply kept an eye on things and didn't interfere unduly with those having fun in any way as they were given no need to do so.

All in all, a good job all round by fans and stewards alike.

That's something I was speaking about yesterday with one of the guys I was at the game with. I like that the club are a bit more lenient to those in Section E (and perhaps some other parts of the North Stand) who wish to stand so long as they do it towards the back of the stand and don't block anyone off.

Edited January 24, 201610 yr by RiG

This is something new. I get searched and watched home and away  for no feckin reason at all.

3 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

This is something new. I get searched and watched home and away  for no feckin reason at all.

You need to be a bit more careful regarding who you accept as friends on Facebook.

 

Don't worry. My bestie Vladimir Putin will cover my back. Back on topic though I have always said that the club needs these unruly yoofs to promote an atmosphere, to ensure the future support and bring in the spondoolachs for survival means. I accept that this needs to carefully and cleverly policed but it is all about the approach and the attitude of how it is done and who is foing it. There should be  thought going in about which stewards are appointed to the North Stand and codes of conduct fer them. But as Rig states there has been a significant general improvement of late.

the youth want pyro! helps build our atmosphere as it is already poor and the standard of football is gay too.  lots of love Gus MacPhee

31 minutes ago, nopyronoparty94 said:

the youth want pyro! helps build our atmosphere as it is already poor and the standard of football is gay too.  lots of love Gus MacPhee

Good post will read again

5 minutes ago, Fraz said:

Good post will read again

As a debut. it is hardly "To Kill a Mockingbird"

With pyro he may just do that.

8 hours ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

 My bestie Vladimir Putin will cover my back.

It's interesting to hear IHE speak so enthusiastically of that - given  his "bestie" Mr Putin's apparent liking for homoerotic poses.

47 minutes ago, bughtmaster said:

With pyro he may just do that.

People like nopyronoparty94 tend to be quite far up the queue when it comes to gaining Darwin Awards.

Boys at the front of the North Stand on Saturday seemed to be having a gay old time.  And good on them.

19 minutes ago, Renegade said:

Boys at the front of the North Stand on Saturday seemed to be having a gay old time.  And good on them.

I'm sure it's quite like a lot of young kids who support Rangers (or used to when there was glory to be hunted). It's something people tend to grow out of as they mature.

Pyro is possibly to the 2010s as flares and male perms were to the 1970s.

How the feck do you know ?

4 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

People like nopyronoparty94 tend to be quite far up the queue when it comes to gaining Darwin Awards.

No one laughed at that joke the first time. Give up. 

4 hours ago, Charles Bannerman said:

I'm sure it's quite like a lot of young kids who support Rangers (or used to when there was glory to be hunted). It's something people tend to grow out of as they mature.

Pyro is possibly to the 2010s as flares and male perms were to the 1970s.

Feck and turn into a boring old repetitive fecker like you? Not everyone suffers that fate.

'We are the Highlands'

'No Giro no Party'

'Giro'!! Does anyone under 35 know what that was?

Probably being googled right now.

Bummer, I thought I had ordered a book on Hurling Piro and instead I got a book about a Belgian detective with a dodgy moustache.

7 hours ago, Renegade said:

Boys at the front of the North Stand on Saturday seemed to be having a gay old time.  And good on them.

 

 

3 hours ago, Alex MacLeod said:

'Giro'!! Does anyone under 35 know what that was?

Probably not, but "No Giro, no party" probably holds very true among the city's longer standing Winos (if you'll pardon that rather bad oxymoron!)

Quite remarkable, though, that a few brainless, immature wee neds chucking fireworks should have given rise to a thread as long as this.

Talking about 'winos' I always remember walking through the market early eighties with someone and just outside Morrison the bakers cafe we were approached 

quick as a flash my elderly companion asked the wino for 5p for a cup of tea to which the wino offered him a drink of Four Crown. He wasn't so cocky then that's for sure 

I can recall the absolute disgust and anger of a wino when his mate handed him one of the original boxes rather than the traditional bottle.

In my view, CJT and Ross County have acted prematurely by supporting any and all sanctions (as they seem to in the joint statement that prompted this thread) and a great deal of the criticism levelled in this forum is little more than dressed up prejudice regarding young people. Sentiments that have gone without comment, except from Renegade,  such as “at least they are at the head of the queue when collecting Darwin awards” are as humourless  as they are tasteless. For those of you unaware, the sentiment expressed is that at least these people will kill themselves sooner than most. Nutty and discredited indeed.

Scottish football supporters are already subject to surveillance from several sources and there is legitimate concern that they are being treated in a potentially criminalising way that non-football attending citizens are not.  Clubs use CCTV to monitor crowds from a control room at every ground and have the necessary mugshots of persons banned to hand.  The operators are in radio contact with stewards and police if their intervention is necessary. FoCUS, the national football intelligence unit, can be regularly seen filming fans. It is funded by Scottish Government to obtain the type of intelligence that the SFA appear to be saying will cost a further £4 million to refine and implement. To what end? Looking for smoke bombs? The people being subject to this are customers, not potential law-breakers.  It is a palpable waste of money when the means to control crowds are already in place and it will do nothing to address the oft observed reluctance of stewards and police to intervene, especially when large travelling crowds are in attendance and “pyro” becomes more likely to be used. What will happen is that someone, more readily identifiable from a smaller support, will be chosen as an example. That puts ours and County’s fans at greater risk of prosecution than, say, those supporting a Glasgow team (who actually have a history of using flares) and that’s not justice.

What is clear is that the use of these things is something that some younger supporters (customers like all of us) see as either a minor issue at football, or as something that they actually want. Contrary to what has been said, there is a place for these people in football. Why?  For years, the media has lauded the “atmosphere” at (for instance) Bundesliga grounds as laudable, desirable and something to be aspired to and that appears to be what these kids have bought into. Nothing more. BT Sport, for instance, have published their 10 best “tifo’s” (fan displays). So have the Guardian. The Daily Record thought CSKA Sofia fans “astonishing” and awarded them a “gold star” for their star wars display whilst deploring anything similar in Scotland. The use of “pyro” is integral to these displays, so it gets copied and the media reinforce that by their double standards in reporting the issue. So kids keep doing it. It’s nothing more sinister, irresponsible or “stupid” than that.

I’d better make it clear now that I personally don’t want to see “pyro” at our games. I don’t want to watch clouds of smoke, I want to watch the game. I certainly don’t want to watch younger fans get themselves into conflict and criminalise themselves. Above all I don’t want people to get hurt.  What needs to happen is behavioural change by peer pressure from fans organisations to stop our fans from using smoke bombs. This will only be done by engaging, not ostracising them.  If people don’t change, there’s a law in place for the authorities to use and it must not be broken.

 Let’s just not get carried away.