Saturdays performance was the last straw, Donnatis goal was an absolute joke. Some of the others were also pretty soft. The back four has been ropey since Dodds left, Frasers dodgey positioning, lack of command of his penalty box, and inability to save bread and butter efforts on goal has compounded the situation. He's even worse than Les Fridge.

The Polish boy was brought in to provide competition for the jersey, he deserves a chance - even Ally Ridgers (a much better shot stopper) is worth a shout despite his inexperience.

I think Calder last played for ICT in 2002.

Having just seen the goals I am perplexed as to why Fraser is being criticised  :024:.

Some people must indeed be looking for scapegoats for the poor start to the season.

Time to drop the time to drop Fraser theme. Mike will be fine once the defense give him some protection. No keeper can cope own their own without a decent back line. Drop it. :blah01:

Having just seen the goals I am perplexed as to why Fraser is being criticised

Are you joking???

I'm not - as some suggest - scapegoating Fraser for our recent turmoil. Our defending in general has been mince, and as Brewster says defending starts with the strikers. But a balance has to be struck between collective and individual responsibility.

Donnati shouldn't have gotten the chance to shoot - Tokely sold himself completely - but he shouldn't have been able to pass the ball low into the net from an actute angle - the goalie has to do better - surely? He didn't even touch the ball.

Venegoors second goal also should have been saved. A very predictable, completely undisguised downward header from an acute angle  - Fraser ended up actually diving AWAY from the ball. If he'd just stayed on his feet it'd have been a simple catch.

McGuired was obvioulsy to blame for the fifth, but Frasers positioning was all wrong. He was almost standing beyond his front post when the cross was played - how is he going to save ANY effort on goal from that position? He isn't.

This isn't just a one off, Fraser has conceded other soft goals this season, Dundee Utd was another shocker.

I'm not arguing that we should punt him - just that his performances have been very poor, certainly not good enough for the SPL, and nobody should be guaranteed a first team spot regardless of how they play. I don't know much about Malkowski - but you can't write him off just because of one error against us a couple of seasons ago, as some seem to have done. Brewster has obviously seen something in him otherwise he wouldn't have brought him here.

Surely he deserves a chance to show what he can do. Plus a spell on the sidelines; having to work to earn his place back - might do Fraser some good. He basically had the jersey handed to him when Brown left and the only competition he's faced is from a guy who was playing for Clach a few months ago. He hasn't exactly grasped the chance with both hands (no pun intended) Brewster should lay down a mark with this one.

If Fraser is as good as his fans on this forum think he is, he should be good enough to fight his way back into the team.

Personally I think that we should have gone fer an experienced keeper in January - but we didnt and we stuck with Fraser. He does remind me so much of Brown -in the positive and negative sense. It would be nigh on ridiculous to drop Fraser after keeping the faith fer so long. The position that we are in places pressure on everyone and the goalkeeper more than most. The only way that they could axe Fraser is if he had a howler. Now if we had a more reliable reserve / replacement that decision may be easier to make. I am afraid that the next two games are a crossroads fer a few individual but Mike is under the mircoscope more than most.

Cometh the hour?

Donnati shouldn't have gotten the chance to shoot - Tokely sold himself completely - but he shouldn't have been able to pass the ball low into the net from an actute angle - the goalie has to do better - surely? He didn't even touch the ball.

We will just ignore the deflection from McGuire then?

The first two were deflected as well....

Do we really need a feckin witch-hunt every feckin week....?

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I think Fraser is a great keeper and has a really good future in the game.  Criticism about him not coming off his line seems a common theme. This was never the case before, he was more of a Jimmy Calder type goalie who gave us some heart stopping moments outside the box.  We now have a full time goal keeping coach, is he the one dishing out these instructions.  Can anyone here say that Ikey has improved under his reign?  Mark Brown was a fantastic mentor for Mike and I think he has suffered since Mark left.  Still think he has the natural ability though and will continue to serve us well.

Goalies coming off their lines!  Who saw young McNulty on Sunday at Forres - come off his line!!!!! gave everyone heart failure a few times - the comments were that he was basing his game on Jim Calder, and McNulty has the same goal keeping coach as Mike Fraser. 

Incidentally Jim Calder was in the Stand on Sunday, looking VERY sun-tanned but can we read anything into the way he had his arm round the back of Doc?!

Don't think replacing Fraser is the answer. Dundee United  have only conceded two goals in their six  SPL games.

They certainly won a watch when they signed Dods.

The first two were deflected as well....

Do we really need a feckin witch-hunt every feckin week....?

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I second that, people are so critical. Some want to nurture him and the next minute have him neutered

I think stick with Ikey but I would like to see Zibi play against Gretna on Tuesday

When Malkowski has played in a few reserve games and shown he's improved from his hibs debacles then I may say give him a try out. Until then Ike is the man.

Thought Mike was very solid today. Didn't put a foot (hand) wrong the whole game. No chance with Blackie's very unlucky own goal. I'm very happy with our 'keeper and have full confidence in him.  :003: :003:

thought ikey had a good game the day , a few nice takes from corners and crosses and his handlin was pretty solid

Agreed.  In difficult conditions, with the wind swirling, Mike seemed quite confident and had a good game all round.

Come on, Mikey, our No 1 goalie!

Quite agree. I have every confidence in Mikey.

Let,s stick with Mikey by all accounts he had a good game to-day  :022:

Once we get our defence sorted Mikey confidence can only grow. :021:

Mikey did have a good game and I am sure it's all a matter of confidence and we should see an on going improvement from now on.

Everyone will be lifted by the result, we have lift off, lets go for the moon!!!

That's not an invite, IHE......

Thought it might be a good moment to revive this thread.

Is the time right now?

not by the report on main website he made good saves to keep us in the game to as well as his errors so no isay

As I wasn't at the Gretna game I can't comment on how Zibbi played, but Fraser has made a few mistakes which can't go un-noticed. Do the defence have conidence in Fraser? I'm not so sure

Fraser was a bomb scare today - had no confidence in him at all.  Time to give Zibi a chance.

... and continuing to flog a dead horse; why don't we start a petition to bring Brown back  :023:

i think zibi deserves a chance now. i was at the game today and cringed every time fraser came for a cross. dont know what he was doing for the first goal. then later in the first half he dinked it past a killie player, passed it to mcbain who was under pressure then started to saunter back to his goal when killie could easily have nicked in and put it in the net.