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Hughes has been a financial boon to the club. Just think how much we have saved on win bonuses since he arrived.

It's noted that low number of posts from the predominantly negative, but NOT constructive, posters who rarely suggest any interesting solutions to the problem going forward other than the sacffold for John, signifies their lack of trepidity in launching into tirades of criticism against John Hughes and then long- serving posters like IHE who have brought a breath of fresh air into this website for many a year and more. Whose loyalty to the club is beyond reproach which includes enough loyalty to all new managers to accord them respect that they deserve of being given a fair time to make changes that may be beneficial in the long run. Yet George,for example, with his impressive 28 posts doesn't think it prudent to curb his acrimonious and ultra critical tongue because he doesn't know diddly squat about the views of the main body of posters on here, many of whom are clearly not posting on this thread because they are heartily sick of the constant girning and whining of the few and can't be bothered to reply. It's one thing to cry for rights to express an opinion but another to present it in such a lopsided way as to leave the impression that there is no way on earth that it will not fall off the table before the sun has set in the West. Especially when nothing they say in that vein will have the slightest effect on the decision of the Board to continue to follow their present course, regardless. What we need here is thoughtful and FAIR posters who can see the wood for the trees, can curb their stifling negativity long enough to actually present some positive, uplifting and semi-practical solutions for consideration and development by all right-minded fans which also, of course, includes the fact that Mr Hughes will be staying for quite a while. At this stage his sacking will achieve little of value and it might result in other so-called good managers getting apprehensive enough to NOT apply for the then vacant managerial position at ICT. The Board is NOT going to react in the same way that they think because the members of the Board are mature business persons and rational and reasonable people NOT usually likely to go into orbit with knee jerk reactions. And NOT young bucks feeling their oats and letting that feeling overcome their brains.

I wonder if anyone else was as disgusted as I was with the events at Parkhead yesterday? Bit of a rhetorical question as I know some certainly were. The Green Brigade now having set up camp next door to visiting fans is ridiculous. There weren't that many Caley Thistle fans there but we usually manage to make a wee bit of noise to support our team. No chance yesterday as we were totally drowned out by the G B. I have no issue with them as a group but it would be better if they were put back over to the other side of the stand where they used to be, among their own fans. This would give visiting fans a fighting chance of building up a wee bit of momentum in their own singing. Then of course there was the case, in my eyes, of child abuse/ endangerment in front of the Green Brigade. A man with a child of maybe 3 on his shoulders, fair enough. But jumping up and down, clapping etc and not holding on to that child. I, and others, could not bear to look latterly. 4 police officers and 16 stewards were all looking in the direction of this man but nothing was done. I went to complain to a police officer at the end of the game - showed a photo also but the response was that if anyone had thought there was a danger something would have been done. Also everything is covered on CCTV so if anything is subsequently noticed action will be taken. If that child had fallen and been killed I wonder what the public enquiry would have found? Anyhow we made our way out of the stadium to the news that our drummer had not only had his drum wrenched away from him by one Celtic fan, he had also been hit on the back of the head by another. So we were all advised to get on the bus and make our way to the police station where statements would be taken from the witnesses. The main concern seemed to be getting the traffic flowing. After visit to police station we then proceeded on our way nome only for a missile to be hurled at our bus. The score somehow faded into insignificance. I have never had an issue with Celtic fans at Parkhead before but after yesterday I don't know if I will ever go back. Rant over.

Why should the rules to vote in the referendum be any different to those for any election that determines the political direction of Scotland? If ex pat scots were to be allowed to vote then how on earth would you define who is a Scot and who is not. The only way you can realistically vote is based on your residency. If you have chosen to move away from Scotland then why should you have a vote which impacts on those of us who actually live here?

Just don't go to the old filth's grounds. Why give them the money? It's not a good day out and they don't need the money. Vowed not to go back to the blue half a while ago and although I wasn't at yesterday's game I've no intention of visiting the green half again. F**k the old firm.

Dont think we need to threaten Mantis. Doubt many will be there next time. Havent been kept back in for yonks now. Stewarding probably not quite as draconian as in the past but theres not doubt its the worst away day in the premiership.

As regards the drum, there's probably a case for writing to Celtic FC with a hint that a future boycott may be in the offing. Don't know if they kept you behind at the end but I've not been there for a couple of years after we were kept in for 15 mins after a routine, boring 3-0 defeat, and also the time before that. Also I think Johndo or somebody else got ejected for very little, while the fans to our right were allowed to do as they pleased. That and the restricted views and the difficulties parking without getting annoyed by wee neds just about did it for me. Before Dougal comes along and brands me an 'Orc' I tend to avoid the other place too, though I was tempted back last year for the league cup game, and also the win in our relegation season which got us off the bottom. Not been spat on (yet?) by the Rangers lot, as against twice after beating Celtic.

Hearach, that is by no means a rant that is a very accurate account of our visit to Parkhead yesterday... I too witnessed the incident with the child and tried to stress how dangerous it was to the police in attendance , but came away absolutely disgusted at there attitude as apparently its quite in order in Glasgow to jump up and down at the top of a concrete stairway with a child on your shoulders and not holding on to him ... As for the Green Brigade Im afraid they ruined our fans effort of support .As a fan I don't suppose My voice will be heard but I would hope the club could speak on our behalf or there is no point in us attending .The incident of the drum just sickened all on our bus I was heart sore for the boy involved as he is a very quite polite young boy who attends regular and for a lowlife to do what he did is just beyond comprehension.I know including myself that there were fans on the bus who would be more than happy to donate towards a new drum for him .Whether he would want to take it to matches well that would be his choice and nobody could blame him if he chooses not to. I hope he has not been too traumatised by it.

Oh Christ we've turned into the other Glasgow team. I am not a fan of Hughes but can he really be blamed for todays result. Today we faced the Scottish champions and couldn't even fill the bench. We played a team who are building for another Champions league qualification. A team with absolutely no pressure on them and playing for fun. I never expected to beat them but it is disappointing that we shipped so many. That bit is not down to the manager but the players on the field. Wasnt at the game but read two or three different reports that pretty much state we can play some good football. Trouble is we cant play against a team that is totally superior to us in every respect. And Lennon didn't hold back. He played the strongest side he had available to him. What matters in the run in is not todays result. What matters is the results against teams that are pretty much equal to us. We took a point against Aberdeen. If we dont take points from our next three games then maybe its time to say goodbye to Hughes. Take points and he should be given a pre-season to see if he can achieve what he's set out to do. Ok so who should we let go to make way for anyone coming in. I'm quite sure that if Hughes was given a budget to bring players in he would do. Our average home gates have dropped by quite a bit this season. They may well drop even further without Hearts next season. Where does the money come from to bring new players in?

You do raise an interesting point in amongst your waffling, where are all of the Hughes supporters? I'm not sure where to start on the rest of this, at what point did Hughes earn this respect you say he deserves? You bring up IHE as an example of an established poster on here showing respect, yet IHE himself openly has more personal digs at our previous managers psyche than anyone else on here, how is that showing unqestionable respect? Why assume that people are not posting on this topic because they think it is beneath them? I'd say its safe to assume most people on here are firmly on the fence on this issue and thats only after our rousing win up in Dingwall, after that Dundee United game the pitchforks were out in force. You have totally misread the vibes coming from the support as a whole. "The Board is NOT going to react in the same way that they think because the members of the Board are mature business persons and rational and reasonable people NOT usually likely to go into orbit with knee jerk reactions. And NOT young bucks feeling their oats and letting that feeling overcome their brains." I guess you could say the the board demonstrated some rational thought in bringing in a guy on the cheap, who had been shunned by the rest of Scottish football after multiple failures. Tell me SP.. in all this talk of yours of being fair, rational, respectful and downright gentlemanly when discussing the merits and potential of Hughes, at what stage do you sit down and look over the stats? There has been a swing of 17 points and 1 trophy between ourselves and Aberdeen since Hughes took over, we were clear in 2nd place with games and points to spare, where are we now?

Thing is i wonder what the board think about Hughes and the job he has done.

Pah, tis but a scratch....

But the Green Brigade also had drums - unfortunately.

Bl00dy Orc!

Was that really 29 yrs ago seems like yesterday. 1st visit to parkhead and Celtic had a really good team mo Johnston Danny mcgrain etc. maybe thistle should have gone it on their own seems like the caley mob are holding them back ;)

Im heading back to The Winchester...whos keen?

Have a look at Celtic's results over the past few months http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/results What am I looking for. I see quite a few 3-0's, 4-0's and 5-0's. Over that I also see many clean sheets. And therein lies a problem. Yes there are games where teams, including ourselves, have scored against them but these are few and far between. 55 games and 31 clean sheets. They are hard to break down and frustrate opponents to the point where heads go down. I ask myself, had we gone in 1-0 at half time what would the outcome have been?m Had we not given away a penalty a few minutes into the second half what would the result have been.

Injuries with Vincent & Raven and late call-offs due to a bug doing the rounds meant that's all that was available.

Does anyone actually think we should be going away to celtic and winning? Now 6-0 is obviously terrible but with injuries I don't think we could have played for a draw. Naive yes but losing 6-0 while attempting to play a bit is no worse than losing 2 or 3-0 by parking the bus. Can we afford to sack a manager and who would actually want the job where the fans might turn on him in a matter of weeks?

The phrase "by George" is a mild oath or exclamation that dates back to the early 1600's. Posts "by George" are by a childish oaf who needs extermination and dates back to the early 2014's,

Going to be some Championship next season. Hearts with their current team are the ones I'd predict to come up. Sevco are really going to struggle. They need to make big cuts so I see quite a few of their high earners out of a job.

I always laugh at the title of this topic whenever it pops up

Lets be honest the current bun is no different from the mix we have found ourselves in for the last couple of seasons under the old guard. For better or worse so the story goes....you never know this time there may be a different ending....