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Inverness Caley Gristle

Every ground I go to I buy a coffee and a steak pie. I would like to say I have tasted some of the best (Killie/County) and the worst - I would like to put some emphasis on the latter. I understand how this forum works, bit of banter here and there - more often a play on words relating to the topic of discussion, but I think that the pies we have are absolutely horrendous. I enjoy a steak pie. This is no secret however I am now being forced to eat a cheeseburger from the burger van situation in the north stand/west stand corner - Don't get me wrong the girls in the van are nice and the burger is great but my go to snack at the football is a steak pie. Increasingly I have been becoming frustrated with the sad state of affairs we now have at the 'shop' at the Tulloch Caledonian Stadium - Even more so considering our near rivals can provide a more than acceptable version of the very same pastry based delight. I have tried for months to forget just how awful a situation we have on our hands but I have now reached the end of my tether. Why are our pies always stuck to the bottom of the casing? This makes eating the pie a horrendous situation, often leaving me caked in gravy - something that does not look very good. This also leaves me with another issue. Once I have eaten what I can pick up with my hands I am left with steak at the bottom of my tin pie case. Having paid £2.30 for a pie I am left with the tough choice either using my fingers to eat what I paid for whilst also covering my hands in gravy - again a horrendous situation especially when I need to then wash my hands with cold water in the bathrooms (not hygenic) - or leave the remains of the pie. Surely at least we could be provided with a fork? Sorry but we have the worst pies in the league.

Setting of a flare is regarded as being "passionate" now is It? Maybe the bright sparks who throw coins are just showing passion. I'm not that old. I enjoy having a sing, jumping up and down, shouting, chanting. Like the drums etc. And true maybe you can move away from someone wielding a flare. - All well and good until he decides to throw it. Or panics because the stewards pick him out and launch it. Oh what's that, he's not the quarter back he imagines himself to be and has a pathetic attempt. It scones you in the eye. (no worries specsavers sponsor the refs so they'll do you a deal on glass replacements). Of course it's no bother because the lads were just having a laugh and enhancing the fan "culture" with their passion. Because them in Europe do it, so we have to copy them! Jeez.

Maybe but personally I'd have rather he'd done it less publicly

Would anyone take in Aiden Connolly? I would...young, likes to go forward and can play on the wing

One of my enduring memories of going to the football as a young child was dodging the streams of urine...and making sure you weren't being urinated on. What a joyous atmosphere that created, shame you don't see it these days. Pesky authorities spoil all the fun.

Some have an obsession with supermarket cafes whilst for others the pie and hot beverage has long been and always will be part of the match going experience. We are well aware that pastry encased meat and gravy has few health giving qualities. All the more reason why the experience should be as pleasurable as possible.

Not for lack of passion, it is said that this NEVER happens in the home end at Pittodrie

With the speed and intensity of the modern game, 'playing through injuries' is no longer an option. It's never a good idea to ignore medical advice in any case. Players aren't cogs or gears to be used, burned out and cast aside. They have their futures to think about, football is their bread and butter. Why risk shortening your career to prove some kind of macho point playing through the pain barrier? Not a good day at the office for Yogi.

The price would not be an issue for me if the quality was decent.

Some interesting views on the game. Personally, while not a great performance from us, the only real chances we gave to Stirling were either as a result of our mistakes or committing too many men forward and then getting caught out by a quick break. Posters have been crying out for width in the team and last night we did try to play with that but often with nobody breaking through to take advantage of this. I think we are really missing Vincent at the moment with the runs he makes and if we can get the width into our play along with this, think this would make a difference. Reality is though, we needed to win the game and we did. The cup defence continues.

What we need are Pyro Pies

Stirling took more fans to the game last night than we took to Kilmarnock on Saturday (94 v 88).

Just seen the highlights and looks like there were only a few hundred, including the reported 94 away fans.

I thought he was referring to this forum.

League positions don't lie. They're a very limited team. Relegated from the 3rd tier last season, they're mid-table currently in the bottom league. Elgin are better than them!

It is simply making an ultra statement. The coloured smoke simply adds to the atmosphere and fills the Warriors with the adrenaline to chant and jump up and down for ages. This is evidently a whining thread for older sweetie rustlers who have probably never experienced the buzz of real terrace highs. The sight of pyro fills the skies of Europe every week and is viewed as a competition by many. Officialdom and clubs should be looking at ultra, standing sections to encourage such scenes of jubilation and loyal support.

No Pyro No Party

As far as I'm concerned anyone caught with flares at a football game should be convicted with arson, discharge and in possession of a dangerous weapon in a public place and intent to cause harm. Ruin their lives like they could so easily ruin someone else's. The temperature of flares can reach thousands of degrees Celsius. If that hits your face it could easily scar you for life. Blind and cause other severe disfigurement or in the worst case death. A banning order goes no where near far enough. If your fans are so sh*t they can't create atmosphere without pyrotechnics then perhaps it's time that you just stopped bothering. As for smoke bombs, they can probably be used safely. But are they really needed?

Cup games are secret

Yngwie.... your question possibly originates from the erroneous assumption that the perpetrator was capable of acting in a discerning and rational manner. But if you stare into the cubic miles of nothingness which float around in the head of an individual like this, you very probably won't find measureable intelligence but, if you are lucky, you may uncover some deep but unfulfilled desire to seek attention. Other than that, you would probably have to peruse the works of Sigmund Freud to get any insight into the mentality of the kind of complete prat who does things like this. The only mitigating factor is that people like this tend to be front of the queue when it comes to gaining Darwin Awards. IHE is also correct in his parallel between possessing these things and using a word pertaining to a Romany traveller - in the presence or the absence of further allegations about the individual's cleanliness and legitimacy. These "offences" are a' Jock Tamson's Bairns nowadays. And Alex is completely correct about home made smoke bombs from table tennis balls, which are made of nitrocellulose - a nitrogen containing polymer. Such polymers tend to produce hydrogen cyanide when they burn and also, like most other polymers, carbon monoxide as well.

Not sure that Mutombo is a winger but, going by what was picked up on the touchline mics, I think Hughes is trying to make him into one. A few times he was shouted at to keep on the wing when he looked like turning inside. I do think that given two or three starts he could be someone worth holding on to. Thought it quite funny that after shouting at the lad Hughes turns his back and misses the goal

So how did you come to support ICT and not "Plastic Whistle"?

It used to be said that, in the days of standing in the terraces, at some of the busier grounds where the punters stood really close together, the nightmare scenario was to feel this warm, moist sensation from outwith percolate throughout your trouser leg.

Personally. I don't see why such a huge fuss has suddenly been kicked up. Pyro has always been here. I know how dangerous flares can be - but I think the whole anti-pyro thing in Britain is ridiculous. Fan culture in Britain is quite frankly *****. And that's because there's always some boring sod complaining about something. Instead of the out-right criminalization, I think the SFA/FA and clubs should embrace atmopshere and getting people in. Do you remember our game against Dundee when we got promoted? Or the atmosphere at derbies? I think the club should try get that every game. And every club. And the FA/SFA - even Sky! Football is for the fans. So clubs need to work with them. Look at other countries - they embrace their Ultras. Even Celtic, who don't particularly like the Green Bridage embrace them. IMO more needs to be done to add standing sections into grounds. But getting onto the point of Pyro. I simply think people just need to stop moaning. If you don't like Pyro don't go near it. Just stand back from the lads who will obviously let them off, or if you see that they're getting let off just move away until it's over or cover your mouth with your shirt. People in other countries can do that, why can't we here? British fan culture is horrendous compared to other countries and nothing is done to change that. All we have is corporate greed and higher-up people completely disconnected from normal people. tl:dr - stop moaning.