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No Charles I got the facts from here http://news.scotland.gov.uk/news/parliament-backs-2014-15-budget-8ff.aspx and here https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/464199/HMRC_disaggregated_receipts_-_Methodology_Note.pdf GERS is not a reflection of how Scotland would fare on its own. All figures within GERS reflect how Scotland is faring under a WM government.

^^^ smashed a seat up and threw it at the Motherwell Bois when Roberts scored that screamer the other week.

Joe the young fans create a great atmosphere and long may it continue but surely you are not saying that the only way they can do this and enjoy themselves is to act like complete d***s!

Inverness did indeed vote Yes, it was actually one of the higher percentages of the evening (64% rings a bell) will confirm this with a link when I'm on here next "Scottish born" people as a statistic also voted Yes, it's been referenced on What Scotland Thinks and was pretty common knowledge when the demographics were broken down http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-referendum-figures-revealed-majority-5408163#qE0yrP5LIo4Drbq4.97 Not that it matters, my wife and her parents voted Yes and they are English

While very firmly in the Yes camp, I take great issue with the proposition that those people born outwith Scotland who choose to make their domicile her and contribute to the wellbeing of the nation have any lesser right to a say in the future of the country than native born Scots. That is a very narrow and insular form of Nationalism and not one I espouse or recognise from the great numbers of supporters of independence I know.

Starting on stewards- is that the same stewards who antagonised the situation by their over zealous heavy handed approach? The stewards behaviour was, I would suggest, like a red rag to a bull. Shouting at police - the same police that were hurriedly called to the section by the stewards who were fearing for their lives because some people were jumping and singing oh the humanity! The police that were then video-recording said singing and jumping. I'm sure they were politely asked to turn off their cameras........ A small pitch invasion....are you having a laugh!!!! One guy jumps over the barrier to celebrate a goal and it's a pitch invasion.....behave herself mun! and I agree, there is no place for foul mouthed hate filled chanting at a derby match......because that doesn't happen at a Dundee Derby or the old firm or Manchester or any London derby.....nope just those unacceptable ict fans..... and I witnessed a lot of pro ict songs. More than I ever did whilst sitting in the main stand at TCS, now....if this is what you want from football then you crack on. in fact, the 'support' that I have witnessed while sitting in the main stand at TCS is far more derogatory to the club than anything that happened through in Dingwall. Sitting in silence, only breaking that silence to deride every single pass and decision by every player and the management, whilst simultaneously tutting that the opposition never make a mistake and are just perfect.....the players hear it and pick up on it! the atmosphere on Saturday was described as fantastic and electric by the Beeb....this was of course as a result of the tremendous support of the two teams by everyone in the ground, except for those in section d.......because they were just childish hooligans! FANS NOT CRIMINALS

I can assure you that my motivation is not tribalism. I'll leave that to the SNP whilst I will continue to argue for a a greater level of working together for the common good. Neither am I gung ho for tax rises; it is just that I feel we have reached a point that we need to put more money into public services and there is no other sensible way of doing this. Let's go back a few years to when Blair first got elected. He inherited one of those rare things in British politics - a budget surplus. At that time Gordon Brown was renowned for his prudence, and whilst we moved into deficit in the next few years, it was nothing serious. Then 2 things happened. Firstly, Brown, having become PM decided he wanted to be popular rather than prudent and, with the help of Alistair Darling, significantly increased public spending. No sooner had they done that than the recession arrived. This caused expenditure to rise further with people losing jobs and needing welfare and bank bail outs etc. Meanwhile income from taxes of all sorts dropped and the deficit (the difference between the government's spending and its income) rocketed from just under £10bn at end of March 2008 to £103bn in 2010. In May of that year the Tories came into power in coalition with the Lib Dems and clearly faced a very serious crisis. If deficit is funded by borrowing this in turn increases the level of the national debt. In turn, higher levels of debt increase the interest payments and further squeezes what you can do with the income you get. They had to contain the level of public spending whilst taking measures to encourage business to grow in order to create jobs and get the economy growing again. Whilst there is much I don't like about the Tories, the fact is that, with some reservations, they handled the crisis pretty well. We are now one of the fastest growing economies in the world, employment levels have never been higher and they have halved the level of the deficit with it forecast to move into surplus (in the UK) in around 2020. The SNP, of course, have railed against the austerity measures and claimed we should have borrowed more to invest in public services and created jobs there. They know fine that all that would have achieved would be to increase the deficit and the debt even more because we need jobs which earn the country money. But it was easy to say because there was no chance they would be in a position to address the problems. In this way the SNP have been able to sit back and let the Tories get the economy back on track again whilst at the same time blaming them for any perceived hardship and getting a nation to hate them . That's pretty cynical, but what makes it worse is that in all this time the SNP have had it in their power to ease the pressure on public services by increasing Council Tax - even if only in line with inflation - and they have chosen not to do so. Not surprisingly, Education and Social Services amongst others have been squeezed and people have suffered as a result. They blame the Tories but that is SNP austerity pure and simple. Looking at the debate yesterday I cringe every time I see Sturgeon spit out those 2 words "Tory austerity". She spits the words out as though all Tories were child molesters, and yet it is the Tory policies which have, albeit with some pain, got the country's economy back on a sounder footing. The irony is that should Scotland vote to become independent in the next few years, thanks to the Tories, the Scottish economy is in a far better shape to go it alone than had we attempted to borrow our way out of recession as the SNP and the loony left of the Labour party wanted. But make no mistake, whilst the UK economy is steadily eroding it's deficit, the Scottish Budget deficit is growing. The Scottish economy may be much better off than had we tried to borrow our way out of recession, but according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies the deficit per head in Scotland is 3 times the level it is in the UK as a whole. In other words, the budget deficit in Scotland per head of population is currently higher than it was in the UK as a whole at the height of the recession. It is expected to rise to over £12bn when the UK as a whole moves into surplus. There is a huge black hole in the Scottish economy and it is about time the SNP Government took some responsibility for it rather than blaming the Tories all the time. This is why there is a need to put up taxes. It is either that or cutting public spending. With the new devolved powers it's becoming harder for the SNP to avoid taking responsibility, Yesterday's debate was interesting in that Sturgeon's tactic was a continuation of saying what is most popular on every issue. So she will increase welfare payments, invest more in education, the NHS and alternative energy but yet won't increase income tax. Interestingly, her policy of not increasing income tax is going to raise an additional £2bn! It just doesn't add up and I would expect the other parties to become increasingly effective at showing the public what frauds the SNP are. Unfortunately, the SNP's failure to act is in keeping with their usual cynical manipulative strategy. The excuses are being trotted out already. They say that if the better off are taxed more then they'll put their money elsewhere or leave the country - well, if that's the case and they are not going to use the powers, why didn't they think of that before they asked for them? They will now expect the UK Government to bale them out and when they don't, they will bleat on about it all being the Tories fault. They will point to the fact that we only have one Tory MP and Scotland doesn't get the Government it votes for. And they will use this to fan the flames of independence again. What's best for the Scottish people does not come into it.

Can't remember where I saw it now, but I did read that Polly was gutted that Williams and Vincent were leaving.....lets hope this doesn't affect his decision to sign what he's been offered.

I believe Dougiedanger's claims are true that a small majority of native born Scots voted yes as did a small majority of folk in Inverness. The fact that the stats are probably true do not render them in any way relevant...

You will probably find that Charles actually looks up to the majority of them

Aaron Doran about his recovery : http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/Exclusive-I-went-silent-and-didnt-know-what-to-do-I-didnt-know-whether-or-not-to-cry-Aaron-Doran-opens-up-on-his-Caley-Thistle-injury-nightmare-24032016.htm.

Yup.... 44.7% of them voted yes while 55.3% of them voted NO. And could you please quote me the verified figures for Inverness to support your assertion? On the other hand I'm sure it would have been very different but for yet another of Alex' "Facts" - that MI5 and the BBC conspired to add a further 77% of NO votes to the postal tally.

Sorry, not dismissing the validity but with vague statements like that it could be a cleaner and someone in the pie shop. So many posters on here have 'sources in the club' - if these sources are so happy to discuss and divulge confidential information relating to players contracts or terms of employment then they obviously have no respect for their position, employer or colleagues confidentiality so may as well just be completely public with the information - unless of course its hear-say and conjecture? If Warren is highest paid its deserved, he has been leader and captain of our most successful team and acted in a highly professional manner - easily displaying attributes to make him successful at a higher level. In life people either get paid a) what they are worth or b) what they ask for - often these are not the same, hopefully the club behaves in the manner of a) and everyone is paid based on what they can contribute and represent good value - running an organisation with the structure of option b) wont be sustainable very long!!

You've got to love Bannermans anti SNP rhetoric. It comes across as so orange. SNP have successfully run our country, within the leash allowed by WM, for nine years. They will run it for at least five more. Why do I think that? Simple. The main two opposition are actually campaigning to be the opposition not the lead. What does that say about the ability to govern?

Has there been any evidence of seats being damaged or is this just something that has grown arms and legs?

Surprise. Looking your nose down and being derogatory about the young fans again.

Joe... it's sometimes a bit difficult to assess the age of posters on forums like this so you leave me with a genuine dilemma. Are you actually one of the Young Team members yourself, sticking up for your chums, or are you a bit older than that but simply afflicted by some unfortunate Peter Pan complex when it comes to deciding what is and is not appropriate behaviour in public?

And another thing, why would both clubs encourage the building of an atmosphere by creating said 'singing section'. Did they not realise that this would encourage the hoodlums to all be in the same area....yes they did! But that's what they wanted!

I find the argument that the SNP are deliberately facilitating austerity in order to build support for independence a little far-fetched to say the least. Are you two usually gung-ho for tax rises or is this just another opportunity to put the boot in? If they'd announced a basic rate increase (the only increase that would have any meaningful effect on revenues) on Tuesday then you can be sure that Charles would've been straight on here giving it big licks on capital flight, brain drain and the rest of the Reaganite routine. Scottish Labour have put together some interesting proposals on tax and it'll be very interesting see how the clear blue water that has finally emerged between them and the SNP on taxation plays out in the debate tonight, but there are many strong arguments against raising taxes in a small part of a country that is cutting them. You may not agree with those arguments but i suspect but that your haste in labeling them "cynical" and "grievance-mongering" from the outset is motivated primarily by tribalism.

The young fans have brought a great new dimension to our games both home and away recently with their noise and colour which I am sure is noticed and greatly appreciated by the team and the vast majority of the rest of the fans. It would be a great pity of that positive image they have generated for both themselves and the club were to be tarnished by immature and criminal activity by the few apparently endorsed by some misguided posters on this site.

Sounds like we're going back to the darkest days of hooliganism in the 80s. Folk used to complain how quiet our fans were. I'd be interested to know how many seats were actually broken. And if some of our fans were so out of order, why weren't there complaints from County? Why didn't the police/stewards take some action? Personally I think it's great that we've now got a loud, vocal, enthusiastic group of younger fans. Fk me, those complaining should try attending something like a Spurs/West Ham game, like I did earlier this season. They'd walk out in disgust after 5 minutes!!

The club do need them, quite badly actually. How many seats were broken btw? How many people were hurt? I'm sure you can tell us. If their behaviour is so over the top then let the police deal with it. We have a small number of fans who make good noise. If you don't like it then sit elsewhere. There is plenty of space. You can then look down your nose at them and even moan about them on the Internet.

It's not just related to these guys though. I genuinely believe that if we had made Shinnie a (damn good) offer in the summer of 2014 he would have signed it. That's not to say that we would have retained him but at least we would have gotten some cash for the guy had he moved on. Instead we didn't try and offer him a contract until the midway point of the season by which point his head was already being turned by what else was out there. Bottom line, if you want to try and keep your players and avoid other clubs coming in and nicking them for buttons try and start your contract talks a little bit earlier. Something ICT seldom seem to do.

I would also probably be thrown out of the cinema if I started booing the bad guy and cheering the hero. I'd be thrown out of wimbledon for my mobile going off. If you want a quiet day then go to Eden Court.

Mind the days when we could talk about player ability in a civilised manner......ahhh the memories!!!

That is the most ridiculous post on this thread. Say what you like about the Butcher regime but one thing they did do was recruit very well and secure talented players on contracts of reasonable duration usually in pretty good time. We won the cup last season and qualified for Europe with a squad almost entirely recruited and secured under the previous regime. It's a real concern that so many of those players have now left or are not being secured for the future especially as the replacements brought in so far on a very similar budget are much more miss than hit. Concerning times.

Maybe but imho the calibre of player coming in nowadays is nowhere near the same standard as those departing?

Feckin good job our players aren't horses.

I have it on good authority that people usually post what they want and people usually take it or leave it. The highest earner at the club was a good few years ago now, he was a rocket, man.

I saw ONE seat back no longer in its correct place....don't think that's gonna break the bank if County were to invoice ICTFC..... and who knows, this could of been as a result of the stewards climbing over seats to remove one of the lads that were singing......

Yes but there are some on here who will complain about them no matter what and it's pretty continual from certain posters. It's pretty simple if you don't like that noise sit elsewhere. The over exaggeration and dramatics here from some is pathetic. One person went through a gate and that equals a pitch invasion? There were also plenty of police about who didn't arrest anyone at the game so the behaviour can't have been as criminal as some here are making out. If it was the police would have intervened. If you think the behaviour is excessive then leave it to the police. We have had people on here wanting to report our own fans to get them banned and wishing these young boys would not come back. As mentioned if they attended a game in Europe it would probably be enough to send them over the edge. You then get clowns like bannerman who look down their noses at them and judge them, call them stupid and has said countless times that they are so stupid they will kill themselves. And he is the last person that should be looking his nose down at them as anyone that has met him or been taught by him thinks he's a total bell end.

People born in Scotland voted a majority Yes, as did the good people of Sneck, so I guess that makes us the majority.

So how many people did they actually ask in the Gelluns the night after the referendum to "confirm" their "majority" in Inverness? I must have missed the pollsters there when I popped in that night to sample the "atmosphere" and order my pints of Schadenfreude and Scottish Bitter. The link to the Record is alarmingly light on how rigorous the analysis referred to there may or may not be. That it's by "Edinburgh University" isn't necessarily an endorsement and I'd also be interested to know how the claimed number for the Inverness subdivision of the Highland count was really established. Even if it wasn't in the Gelluns it was presumably from some poll or other but again, given how wrong even the "professional" pollsters can be, it would be interesting to see how reliable this is in its claim that Inverness is so far out of step with the rest of the Highlands. But in any case, the SNP decided to have that referendum, they set the rules.... and they lost. And given the number of Christian Allards and Tasmina Ahmed Sheiks that are around, it would be difficult for them to complain about non-natives. But, perhaps to return to the upcoming Holyrood elections, these assertions of dubious provenance about who voted where in the referendum simply join the lengthening "Alex MacLeod" queue of GTA, 20 tonners on the Forth Road Bridge, resilient oil prices and the Scottish economy being in surplus to illustrate the extent to which peddling unsubstantiated and downright erroneous assertions has simply become a nationalist way of life. It certainly doesn't say much for the level of critical thought that goes into voting Yessenpee. So, despite the SNP's woeful administrative record and recent cataclysmic economic data, their ballot fodder will, for the moment, still uncritically put their crosses in that box - until the bawbee drops. I don't believe that stage is too far away but, given the woeful state of the other parties, there is little doubt about the outcome on May 5th.