Been trying to get some early team news ahead of tonight and just had it confirmend that Graeme Shinnie and Shane Sutherland start tonight for ICT

Edited September 22, 201015 yr by Scotty
changed thread title, added team lines.

I wouldn't have LDZ or Hastings any where near our defence either. There's a good reason neither are playing in the SPL...

Would anyone object if I or one of the other Admin just delete this thread so we can pretend this game never happened?!

Feel free RiG.

would be better than gola

2-0 now.

Incredibly one sided. This could get very embarrassing.

Yip.

I've just looked up the stats to confirm that this was our worst ever defeat, and it's equal to 0-6 against Airdrie exactly 9 years ago today in the league.

well at least the ref has ended that

it has to be said now that i have watched one game on tv, one live and been on here for another this season

so far imho it looks like we are woefull in defence,

(TV GAME) mccourt was given acres of room to wander through at the back against celtic, defenders seemed almost acared to actually attempt a tackle, to a degree this was understandable as it was on the edge of the box but surely someone has to make a descion one of these days in a match ?

(LIVE IN THE CROWD)against hearts i thought we started not to bad, to an extent i was even impressed a little by innes and the fact he seemed more than willing to get stuck in and have a go, however it quickly became evident that he seems to do nothing but that and i think we will see very little of him this season through either suspension or injury.during this game proctor seemed to be way out of his depth and too a degree very unsure of himself at this level which is wrong as he has been there before and he knows what to expect. tokes i think is in his last year...i seriously cant see how he can continue to play at this level as he has neither the pace nor the agility to keep up to it... think the combination of these things is also dragging grants game down not to mention that we had Golly on the bench whilst we played rosscoe out of position)

(ONLINE UPDATES)

granted these can be a bit biased but the majority of comments tonight appear to have aluded to what many of us have known for quite sometime,

we have no defence to speak of

if conceding 6 isnt embarressing enough samaras got 3 of them i mean he must of had about 1000 chance to score 3

Terrible team choice imho.

Celtic park is not the place to give youngsters a chance, maybe against a 3rd division team but not one of the Old Firm. It should be Celtic playing the weakened side not us.

I think Butcher almost decided we were never going to win this game and just decided to concentrate on the league (we on the other hand know that miracles can happen, and that we can beat Celtic).

Not good for confidence or team morale.

Would anyone object if I or one of the other Admin just delete this thread so we can pretend this game never happened?!

What game??

No much craic on the team bus coming up the A9 tonight then... now he's got to lift the players for saturday, question is, who the feck sorts the defence out?

play four girls :-D

No much craic on the team bus coming up the A9 tonight then... now he's got to lift the players for saturday, question is, who the feck sorts the defence out?

Dropping Proctor would be a start

Feel sorry for the folk that went down as it doesnt look like we even tried to win with the team selected. Oh well onwards and upwards back to the league on saturday

I never was confident with our defence, injuries or not. I'm still unsure about Tuffey as well. As the song goes...'things can only get better'

No much craic on the team bus coming up the A9 tonight then... now he's got to lift the players for saturday, question is, who the feck sorts the defence out?

Dropping Proctor would be a start

I second that!!! Why is proctor even still with us?

It's one thing to write off this game as unwinnable, play a bunch of reserves and think only of the next league match (a la Mick McCarthy and Wolves last season).

It's another thing to rest 3 or 4 guys, and basically play half a team - now we've been thumped, and our first choice defence now have even less confidence than after the Keystone Cops act against Hearts.

TB - what were you thinking?

Feel sorry for Tuffy. I dont think he could have done much about most of the goals.

Equals record defeat I think! So far!!!

Would one more make this our heaviest ever defeat?

I've just looked up the stats to confirm that this was our worst ever defeat, and it's equal to 0-6 against Airdrie exactly 9 years ago today in the league.

http://caleythistleonline.com/stats-facts/2

Highest League Defeats [away] (before tonight) - 5-0 Vs Celtic and Rangers, 6-0 V Airdrie

Highest League Defeats [home] (before tonight) - 1-5 Vs airdrie & Ross County

Highest Cup Defeat [away] (before tonight) - 5-1 Vs Ayr United

Highest Cup Defeat [home] (before tonight) - 0-3 Vs Rangers & Aberdeen

Very dangerous to play a weakened team against a top team like Cletic.

Upside (supposedly) is that no player of real importance gets injured.

But that feeling has to be weighed in the context of the fact that the Cup comes around only once a year whereas there is a long, long way to go in the league with many more games to play.

The downside is that a heavy defeat can look bad in the record book.

Secondly, the fans who actually made the trip to Parkhead deserved better than this.and, as someone has already pointed out , a full strength team COULD possibly have had a great result.

Thirdly, the fans who stayed at home, for whatever reason,and support the club have a right to expect the team to perform as well as the reputation of the club demands.

Fourthly, the morale of the club , and the players, might easily take a nosedive which could have the add-on effect of a severe loss of confidence in the players participating in the immediately-succeeding matches . Which is counter to whatever effect the suggested losses from injuries referred to in the "Upside" above could be.

The reputation of the club could suffer and the action of fielding a weakened team could be viewed by a team like Celtic as somewhat insulting, and hand them a reason to run up a cricket score.If Celtic, or any other "big" team, realises that they are going to win and they have respect for the opposition then they may be less likely also to ease off and not slaughter ICT. In this case I don'tthink that Neil Lennon cared a whit what happened to ICT which is not good.A high score for them will also add to their confience and make it MORE difficult for teams to compete against themeffectivelyand, like it or not, the SPL needs both Rangers and Celtic.

All in all , maybe I don't have a right to express too forcibly an opinion since I never get a chance to get to Tulloch Stadium because I live in Western Canada, but what I can say is that this result today leaves me more than a bit disgruntled ansd sick and I have a bad tyaste in my mouth that it was not a very courageous thing to do not to filed the very strongest team that the club could .

Opinions requested though. :annoyed:

Opinions requested though. :annoyed:

Could have been worse..... At least it wasn't another home defeat.

what a shambles, i'd like to hear what butcher says about that! we went in with a team poised for defeat, its a shame on the guys on the field, the fans in the stadium and the fans at home who will get hassle for being taking a beating that make Ike Vs. Tina look like a pillow fight.

we should have at least tried, even if it means playing our first team squad more than once in a week. i feel butcher put out that squad like they resembled that goat from Jurassic Park.....

Has anyone got the URL for that suicide pact website?

Edited September 27, 201015 yr by Yngwie

Has anyone got the URL for that suicide pact website?

Found it

Got to remember, tonight was shight, but things could be worse!

at least county got beat aswell............

This defeat wouldn't have happened if we'd signed Gary Mackay Steven. Got soaked walking back to Qst too. At least I witnessed a new club record.