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This article from the Ross-Shire Journal......

Have th club looked at the simple initiative of loyalty points? The more points you have the more opportunities to get tickets first, for derby games, etc. there's plenty you could do with it. Gives people a target so if they get so many loyalty points then they get a discount or something, points would be earned via buying club merchandise, tickets, season tickets etc.

With fans like (some) of ours, what chance have our guys got? Players that have left/been let go from ICT with a far greater tendency for big, lumbering, unnecessary challenges are lauded over like heroes, whilst the guys here and now are getting pelters and told they shouldn't be pulling on the shirt ever again because of a dubious red card. Inverness has the team it deserves....in fact, it has a better team than it deserves. If people spent as much time supporting the team as the did criticising it then we'd have the best support in the world!!!

Feck sake! staggy4life will be having a wee chuckle when he sees this thread!

Here is the feckin reason - the new chef and his pizza menu - Sutherland salami sausage on the left, Raven ravioli at the back, Tudor Jones Tuna in the middle but it evaporates after 60 minutes and the only positive is the Foran crust but it bites back at you. And I almost forgot the Malpass Mediterranean Olives which are soaked in whisky for a week. Would you pay fer that ?

What else would you expect when sleeping giants like Hellgin and Putridheid are running away with the league.

Lets hope that they dont start organising Mickey Mouse dart tournaments in the Innes on a Saturday afternoon or the crowds will get even feckin smaller.

Well the animal comparisons would have been regarded as sarcasm by many !! It is more disappointing as his CV would say that he can do a lot better. I do feel that he should be benched as he has not been putting in performances that merit a first X1 start. As I also alluded to I feel that his style of play may not suit the SPL and that there may be lingering injury issues and/or he is'nt 100% fit. And most have agreed with me that his confidence also looks low and it does appear that he gets frustrated and his head goes down. His previous clean disciplinary record, to me, supports the assumption that either his timing has gone or the frustration has had an effect. He has hardly had enough of a run to show his worth and again I think he has been living on his previous reputation. Again I am not suggesting that we ditch him - we rest him - especially as he has either been sent off, suspended or hooked this season. And if that isnt direct, constructive criticism with a rationale then I dont know what is !! The bottom line is that the truth hurts and/or others may have a different perspective - but that is shurely what fan forums are for.

Further information on how you can become a part of the Fans Squad and play against the Legends will follow in due course.

How will we line up against HIbs? I think it'll be something like this ---------------------------Esson--------------------------- ---Raven----Meekings-----Warren----Blackman--- --------------Draper----------Foran--------------------- ----Doran--------ShinnieA---------ShinnieG-------- --------------------------McKay-------------------------- Foran dropping into midfield is a bit of a no-brainer. He looked good when he played a bit deeper following Jones' red card on Saturday and is the most experienced option. McKay should come in to play up front. This will mean a change of style for us. Foran up front thrives on early direct balls for him to flick on, whereas McKay is more suited to making runs into channels. The best I've seen us play this season was the first 30 minutes against Kilmarnock when we pushed up and got Shinnie, Doran and McKay on the ball in dangerous areas, hopefully we can do thsi again. I would like to see Draper and Foran stepping forward to use the ball with Andy Shinnie, with Doran, Shinnie G and McKay make runs around the box, Foran will bring a lot more drive to the midfield than Jones being an attacking player. If King is fit I'd start him alongside Warren and put Meekings to right back, Raven dropping out.

What a load of tosh. Not sure what's worse, the C*unty propaganda machine, or that fact that it works so well because we have so many gullible fans. I believe the claims that they have sold out all hospitality there is also not what it seems. The real situation seems to be that one person has bought out the whole lot and is selling it back to the club depending on demand.

How many of them did Tudur Jones boot up in the air?

were they occupying sections A and B in the North Stand on sat? that area looked a lot busier than usual on saturday. well done ICT lets see more of this please, especially with Inverness schools and youth clubs! personally i'm delighted that we've also went into Countys 'area' aswell haha

Crowd announced as 4500, looking at the south stand i would say Dons took 1900-2000, which look like we managed to get 2500 supporters on a nice day against near neighbours Aberdeen. The home crowd -or lack of it shocked me today! Where have all the people gone? cant call them supporters or ICT fans because they would have turned out to support their team, because thats what suppporters do -support their team Never mind the 'teams playing poorly shyte' or dont like the players TB has signed etc etc.. its at times like this that ICT need fans to turn out and help support the club financially and the team on the pitch. No doubt we will have these 'fans' turn up for the county game in october to support their team. .

I think that is an absolutely genuis idea. Not sure how easy it may be to implement but I'd be keen for that. Incidentally, AC Milan have apparently sold ~ 28,000 season tickets for 2012/13 and their stadium holds ~80,000. So we're keeping good company at least! EDIT: Apparently it is 23,618 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/sep/17/milan-serie-a-football) . Clearly, Milan selling Silva to P$G is like us losing Tokely to Ross County...

At ICT v Aberdeen? Who on earth has got that idea? The BBC actually had a bigger on-air presence there than would be the norm for this season at a non commentary game. John Robertson did Open All Mics as usual and since I was at the shinty, Billy Dodds came up to do the TV report and post match interviews, but was also seconded as a second voice on Open All Mics. Dont shoot the messanger! Just repeating what they tweeted! Think they said that there was not proper reporter just 2 ex pros. Take it up with them I suppose Quite so OCG. The messenger remains totally unharmed and thank you for the information! I will make some discreet enquiries though.

I stand corrected, told by someone who sits in the stand re hospitality - must kick him.

Perhaps somebody needs to contact "Cowboy Builders" and get Dominic Littlewood on the case - whilst I show Linda Messenger some hospitality.

If people want to make an argument for replacing him on the team sheet with someone they think is a better option, then that is at least rational. The idea, though, that he should be ditched/benched purely because of a couple of cards is not...and that was the mindset I was disagreeing with.

Can I be the first to thank you and the team you support for saving us from relegation come the end of the season.

Perhaps diving is so rife that these awards should be daley rather than weekly......

Dont let the buggers grind ya down man - there are far more important things in life than football. You evidently strive to get to games, remain mainly positive and you are more of supporter than many on here.

Well to me the frustration was that Shane Sutherland really had put the wind up Anderson and co. Shane has certainly beefed up and he has the wee bit of extra pace off the mark that could lead to him muscling and outpacing a lot of central defenders. The penalty being a prime example - although whether he would have tucked it away if he hadnt been impeded is another debate. Then Butcher sent him out wide left which really did not make any sense to me as he really does not have the touch or the pace to play so wide. I was really looking forward to him being used as an old fashioned battering ram centre forward and I am sure that leaving him up there with McKay wider would have paid dividends. It always looks worse when somebody is stretchered off - that now gives us a dilemna but - with apologies to Shane - it takes him out of Butcher's tactical thinking for the time being.

Aye Rod, apathy, financial circumstance, time, they all take their toll on attendance, me? work most saturday mornings till 12 so away days are few and far between i'm afraid, going to Hibs this saturday though! hospitality invite so i'll give you a wee wave eh! However away days dont give this club money, thats my concern that when ICT need the money most, a lot of peolple are letting the club down, i really dont know the solution to get fans back, better football? the standard of the SPL is dropping for sure, are people frustrated by the loss of Munro Rossco? - hope not! See ya soon Rod.

Yes it does. It's just that you don't understand the explanation! You don't "deserve" a penalty just because awarding a penalty is the correct decision. Doran should have been awarded a penalty but he did not deserve one. What Doran deserves is a rollicking from the manager for failing either to bury the chance sooner or to square it to Sutherland who was in an even better position. The referee also deserves a rollicking from the manager for making a very poor decision. Hope that makes it clearer? I get what you're saying, I just don't agree with your reasoning or logic....and yes, when ICT don't get a deserved penalty then I do expect our fans to be coming to the player/teams defence, not finding a way to use it as another stick to beat them with.

Yes it does. It's just that you don't understand the explanation! You don't "deserve" a penalty just because awarding a penalty is the correct decision. Doran should have been awarded a penalty but he did not deserve one. What Doran deserves is a rollicking from the manager for failing either to bury the chance sooner or to square it to Sutherland who was in an even better position. The referee also deserves a rollicking from the manager for making a very poor decision. Hope that makes it clearer? clear as mud haha. lets just take the draw and move on eh. im just gonna say decisions evened themselves out, we can spend forever moaning about a decision or we can move on and put our stamp on the next game so that we wont need any decisions go our way. my word of the season this season is onwards. spent to mcyh time last season wondering what couldve been.

Davie tries hard not to use the word "absolutely", but Ross didn't let us down!!!

Just seen the tackle on the TV there on the TV, horrendous challenge and deserved to go. No complaints from me.

The highlights to me show a potentially mistimed leg breaking tackle. Cant see any point in appealing. Anderson played ball and man and got behind Shane so cant see any point in appealing that either. I also thought that Doran lost control and was in two minds but he did get clattered and it looked like a penalty to me.

" In speaking to any Dons fans I may, of course, refer to what a diving cheating squirt Fraser is, but the reality is he was on the receiving end of some tackles which should not have been made." I disagree. After the OTJ challenge he reacted as if he had a career ending injury. Red card comes out. Two minutes later he's sprinting up and down the park again, absolutly nothing wrong with him. Scumbag. When a player conducts himself like that he deserves to be dealt with in the harshest manner possible. My only complaint is that Foran didn't kick him hard enough.

Neither of the red cards were for foul and abusive language, that's just what they put on Sky and the BBC. As for OTJ, he looks like he could be a good player, the way he moves, his body shape all suggest that he's a good player but he never actually does anything. He uses possession neatly but I think he sometimes slows down play, he always seems to try to play little dinks and flicks when playing things simply is the best option. Ross Draper has shown him up in central midfield, the drive and power that Draper brings to the role far outshines OTJ. Foran also looked very good when he dropped back into midfield following his red card.

ESSON 7/10 - Thought that was a bit more like the aggresive, eager Ryan of yore. RAVEN 6/10 - His confidence is clearly fragile and I suspect the he was told to get rid as soon as possible but he more than held hisl own against two lively wingers - and Grandpa Broon had clearly targeted him. He even really got forward in the second half. But my gawd has be been "proctorised" as every minor error that he makes is jumped upon - and there were a few others who were not ostracised for even more dismeanours. MEEKINGS 6/10 - Full of commitment and enthusiasm but it really needs to be harnessed. He could/should have seen a red at Well and again yesterday. He is surely just a stand in at centre back as I do not feel that he has the requisites to play there and needs to concentrate on being a full back. WARREN 8/10 - I am really taking to this guy. He has equal endearing qualities to Meekings but he is far more composed and thoughtful AND disciplined. Keeping this lad fit may actually be the key to our season - I will even go as far as stating that he has more potential than Munro and Tokely ever had, My MOM. BLACKMAN 8/10 - Simply the best Blackman we have ever fielded at left back. He simply has the pace to recover and covers the back four line like a traditional left back did - better than Mispass at least. Reckon he will be even better when he haste chance to be more offensive. Hope that he is fit fer next week as he toiled in the last quarter. DORAN. 6/10 - Is he frustrating or feckin wot - reckon he had too much feckin pasta in midweek and left his shooting boots at the Vatican. If only he could find consistency. Will have to wait fer the highlights but I felt that he had lost control of the ball and had scarfed it but he was deffo clipped in the execution and the ref clearly avoided a third red card scenario. OTJ 4/10 if he didn't gob off - feck all if he did - said it all on another thread. DRAPER 8/10 - Now this is the type of player who was born to play in the SPL !! G.SHINNIE 6/10 - Got a fair deal of stick yesterday but it is difficult to move positions BUT he did interchange well with Blackman and that be one muvverfecker of a combination in a few games time. FORAN 8/10 - Captain Marvel and looking after his boys like a true Mrs Brown. Will have to start off a he's here, he,s there, he's every feckin where chant soon. A.SHINNIE 5/10 - Sorry but his body language says it all. I suspect that he doesn't like how he is being played and/or where heis being played. I simply feel that he has to be given a more influential role. I can also detect some real tension between him and Butcher and fear that he will be the next casualty of war. Most of the rest is covered in a variety of positive but clear posts but here are my criticisms !! OTJ should not have been started and we have to give the playmaker role to Andy Shinnie - We should have utilised Pepper sooner when they were there foR the taking - Shane looked really strong in the middle and got us the goal with his pace and strength -so why ship him out wide left ?? And that is really that APART from the one aspect that totally pushed me off - in the last 10-15 minutes Aberdire totally looked as I If they wanted the points more and we played for a point - that is a big difference and shows that we need to get the no win monkey off our backs ASAP.

The bottom line is that he should not have started. I am going to refer to him as Giraffe from henceforth. His demeanour is lackadaisical, loping and plodding. Like a giraffe he has reached higher heights before and he certainly has the ability to make splendid cross field passes but his head goes down and he looks like a pit pony. I simply do not feel that the hourly burly of the SPL suits his style and I don't think that he has ever been 100% fit and I fear that he never will be. He surely must have been on the cusp of being hooked anyway - I have been told that he was told this at the break - so perhaps his frustration got the best of him. I was surprised that he got a straight red - it was a bad tackle but without any malice - but again all the feedback suggests that he also mouthed off - and if that was the case he left us all down and should be benched. If however the card was fer the tackle then I would expect an appeal. This is one that needs to be clarified. Really looking forward to the highlights as I thought that Anderson had got the ball but can also understand why the ref saw it as a straight red from his angle plus he was looking to even thins out - OR WAS HE??

Well it would be interesting to see if Caley get to Hampden how many would turn up then

I didn't have the best of views of his tackle yesterday and I haven't seen it back yet, but my initial reaction was that it was a bit late. Again, I didn't think it was a red card, but it was a poor challenge. As I mentioned in the Matchday Thread, the Meekings challenge in the first half was the worse of the two. Moving onto a slightly different topic though, I remember reading last season that Jones was the highest earner at the club. He's currently on a one year deal, so will be out of contract at the end of the season. Is he really worth keeping? His sending off against Killie (whether it was on his "bad knee" or not) was idiotic. I wasn't at the Motherwell game, but supposedly he was rubbish, he has an awful injury record, while others have said his style of play doesn't suit the Scottish game. With that in mind and with this tough economic climate, is he really worth keeping? To be honest, I'd shed no tears if the club chose not to retain him.

A real step in the right direction after the last 2 games but just couldnt hold on for the win we crave. Disappointed but not disheartened after that showing. OTJ's red card was the wrong call. Mistimed and poorly executed but ive seen bookings given for worse. Though Anderson got a slight touch of the ball but got plenty of Shane before hand, that was a correct call. Thought Andre Blackman had a great debut. Thrown in at the deep end with a full game and up against a tricky opponent in Jonny Hayes but he stuck to his task well and deserved his man of the match award. Foran worked his socks off yet again. Both up front and in midfield, has improved his game a lot from last season and has already matched his total scoring tally from last season . Another player that impressed me was Draper. He may be inconsistent but at his best he is brilliant. Made some life saving tackles and always looked to break forward. Warren is another who put in a solid display. Raven is taking a lot of shtick. His distribution was poor yesterday and he is by no means the quickest but i wouldnt describe him as terrible. What i would say is that Meekings is probably better at right back and i would imagine when King and Hogg are back fit Meekings will revert to right back once again. At home we look difficult to beat but we need to start cutting out the lack of concentration at the end of games and turn these draws into wins.