I was willing to give Hughes time but ever since the 0-5 at Parkhead, that has changed!!

Yes, we reached Cup Final and top 6 again but that was guaranteed before Butcher left.

His record here is ridiculous, he was a defender and yet our defence is poor just now.

Hughes MUST GO imo!!

Lets be honest the current bun is no different from the mix we have found ourselves in for the last couple of seasons under the old guard. For better or worse so the story goes....you never know this time there may be a different ending....

Hate quotes Wine Shed Benefit Day Reviewed Claim but:

 

Laughing my head off (sorry) from a purely psychological perspective but your response actually supports my theory :lol:  - fer feck sake read between the lines please - if you can.

 

Please look at aftermath of a narcissist on google as it feels that you - and the people who liked yer post - were co-dependents. Your expectations - as you stated - were grandiose and influenced by a very clever and evidently influential narcissist.

 

Steve Marsella the biggest loss - LOL 2

 

Hughes was not my first or second choice but he was probably the "safest" of what we had - and many had dodged it becos of the Butcher situation.

 

Jhesus - how can you say expectations were high AND realistic - book me in fer a chat !!

 

Let me ask some questions ?  - Should Butcher have stayed ? If he had would we have accomplished more ? Did his departure cause problems for ICT? Why did he leave ? AND FINALLY - did he really give a feck about ICT ?

 

I think this pretty much sums up the shallows of IHE's psychological 'insight', he stubbornly drags up our reactions to Butcher leaving as the major cause for this thread yet talks about the guy more than anybody.

 

Why do you want me to answer questions about Terry Butcher?  If I did enough digging around on here I could find you dozens of posts I made during the Barnsley debacle that mirrored my thoughts on his move to Hibs, I was right in saying he had taken us as far as he could but we needed somebody else to push us further.

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Only 5 games left then its no more football for a while so I'm hoping to make the

Most of the next few weeks.

In the meantime I don't see much point in posting here after the County performance.

Good response from the Wine Shed :lol:

 

Thanks for your concise responses to my questions and your previously posted agreements with my theory.

Thank you for replying from the cow shed.

I knew my codependent would add more.

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I wonder if this thread will reach 50 pages by the seasons end?

Wow

I wonder if this thread will reach 50 pages by the seasons end?

Considering that it is exactly a month today since it was started then i would say its very possible depending on how results go     Team Yogi   

good on you Yogi. A month of this sharn and your still with us!

Just thought I'd bump this in preparation for this evening.

That's a record home defeat and at least equalling our worst ever defeat full stop - with probably our best ever squad. How can anyone have faith that this guy is the right man for the job?

But its an away game?

Who would you like as boss Hiro? 

Should he be sacked?  YES< YES< YES<YES<YES<YES.  Six times YES.  I can't stand his crap anymore.

Aye

But its an away game?

Yep, hence why I made two seperate points in my post. He's presided over our worst ever home defeat (5-0) and now equalled our worst ever defeat (6-0 v Airdrie) since he's taken over.

Embarrassing today, was willing to give him time but he has to go for me, not that I can see it happening. To be honest I don't know how he got the job, every other fan up and down the country gave a sympathetic laugh when we appointed him. What is the point in trying to bring this footballing ethos to a club that cannot afford technically brilliant players and to a country that is probably one of the most backwards in that footballing respect.

 

But its an away game?

Yep, hence why I made two seperate points in my post. He's presided over our worst ever home defeat (5-0) and now equalled our worst ever defeat (6-0 v Airdrie) since he's taken over.

 

Butcher lost 6-0 at Celtic too. But that was with a second string team out.

YES

Who would you like as boss Hiro?

Someone like Gary Holt, young,ambitious, progressive and capable of working to a tight budet. Doesn't appear to talk in riddles.

I `think one of the worst shouts in football is "who would replace him" nobody is irreplaceable and you don't stick with a dud because you think there is nobody to replace him

Yogi hasnt got a Scooby !!!

Enough is enough time to go!

I'm not naive enough to believe that we as a team could remain in the top 3 all season due to our player budget and squad size compared to our rivals, but the fall from grace has been somewhat spectacular. From a team that seemed well organised at the back and played attractive counter attacking football we've seen the polar opposite in recent months where we now look brittle at the back and toothless up top. I previously stated i'd give him until after the Summer to judge him properly, but as the weeks have gone by i've felt more and more disillusioned with the same rhetoric being spouted as an excuse for us not getting the results with arguably the best squad we've ever assembled. I wanted to give the man time and to eat my words but now I think his time is up. The 27 pages in relation to this of this is somewhat deafening. The proverbial ball is now in the boards court.

With Hughes stating that he is not bringing anyone else in, I only see more of the same next year. Even less convinced now he is the man for the job although I do not see him being removed by the club. I can can only assume we are bottom 6 material for next season