A question for all those who aren't happy with how things are at the club.  What are you going to do about it?

I didn't renew my season ticket and am actively avoiding giving business to sponsors and advertisers (where possible) who, in my view, are just propping up the current regime.  I've also stopped buying local newspapers because journalists are spineless and not asking the questions I think they should be asking, or highlighting the issues, both on and off the park.

I don't blame the team/players, but it's impossible to be there to cheer them on without also supporting the wages and investment of those who have the power to change things and sit back doing nothing.

Hopefully the new signings will settle into the side quickly and make a big difference. If they don't then they will, at least, add another chapter to Doods new book 'A 1001 Excuses For Being Shite'  

1 hour ago, Gringo said:

Hopefully the new signings will settle into the side quickly and make a big difference. If they don't then they will, at least, add another chapter to Doods new book 'A 1001 Excuses For Being *****'  

Takes time to gel and they need to integrate into our style of play....standard manager spin

Although unless they were registered prior to midday yesterday they can't play today anyhow. Thats my understanding of the rules.

43 minutes ago, bdu98196 said:

 

Although unless they were registered prior to midday yesterday they can't play today anyhow. Thats my understanding of the rules.

The club’s announcement said Boyes is available for selection today. The Aussie is still in Australia. 

4 hours ago, Robert said:

The club’s announcement said Boyes is available for selection today. The Aussie is still in Australia. 

No excuse.  Wilson has scored from further away than that!

What a crock of ****. Dodds GTF and take gardiner with you. Robbo undecided About as for Ross Morrison time to stand up and be a man make some decisions and stop Gardiner before him and Dodds leave us with nothing left 😪😪

Today, I stayed away. Nice weather. Cycled my bike. Chilled out and enjoyed a positive afternoon away from hoofball. Didn't miss it at all. Quite sad indeed as in seasons past wouldn't have missed a home match for anything. 

Give me a shout when Dodds and Gardiner are gone please. 

Edited September 2, 20232 yr by Duke of Inverness

Despite everything going on at the club and the disgruntled support I wasn't expecting a crowd figure of 2388. I take it there was a large Pars contingent? Was there any protest?

35 minutes ago, Gringo said:

Despite everything going on at the club and the disgruntled support I wasn't expecting a crowd figure of 2388. I take it there was a large Pars contingent? Was there any protest?

It was the largest away support that has been in the away end for some considerable time. I expected Dunfermline and Dundee United to be the two teams bringing good numbers to the stadium this season. 

There were a few boos, and a few shouts about Dodds to GTF, but else nothing significant that I saw or heard.

3 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

There were a few boos, and a few shouts about Dodds to GTF, but else nothing significant that I saw or heard.

So just a normal home game then.

4 hours ago, Gringo said:

Despite everything going on at the club and the disgruntled support I wasn't expecting a crowd figure of 2388. I take it there was a large Pars contingent? Was there any protest?

Decent away support yes. Felt very empty round us in North stand though. I'm dubious of the counting lol 

4 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

There were a few boos, and a few shouts about Dodds to GTF

That was just from Doran, ridgers and samuels 🙊

55 minutes ago, old caley girl said:

I'm dubious of the counting lol 

Maybe they used the same accountant as the concert venture

No way was there 2388 fans at the game. I'd say around 1800 tops 

As my dear departed mother would have postulated "what a load of feckin shyte"

At league games, I believe they (and all clubs) count the season ticket holders whether there or not. All the usual people were around me plus some strangers.

The north stand looked slightly quieter than normal with very few of the youngsters in Section 94, although I hear some of them have moved into the main stand near the dug outs so their voices can be heard by the Manager and coaches.

I’d say there must have been about 500 Dunfermline fans as more than half the south stand was open for them.

Edited September 3, 20232 yr by Robert

2 hours ago, BobbyDazzler said:

No way was there 2388 fans at the game. I'd say around 1800 tops 

Pravda, for those under 40, this was the fore runner to ‘spin’. I spent a lot of my youth being shown pictures of Latin American and African tribal camp kids in ‘tic’ tops declaring their long lasting admiration and loyalty for ‘their’ team. Even thou they could not speak or understand a word of English. Or pick Europe out a map never mind Scotland!!
Ahhh, blissful, ignorant happy daze!!    (Spelt right).

bc

Edited September 3, 20232 yr by big cherly

What I'm seeing in this conversation is that there are fans who would like to see some action being taken, even though there's no real consensus on what that should look like.  There's even a growing number of fans who were against the idea or sitting on the fence who are moving towards the idea that something needs to be done.

The biggest hurdle to any action being taken by fans seems to be the lack of leadership/organisation.  No group is better placed to do this than the Supporters Trust, and it is part of their objectives to represent fans/community in these matters - https://www.ictsupporterstrust.org/the-trust

In my opinion, they are complicit in their total silence and lack of acknowledgement of the the fans' concerns outlined in this thread and on the wider forum.  This only serves to strengthen the club's position that fans don't/should not have a voice, and can be ignored.

We've had all the excuses from ex trust board members and volunteers.  Time for the chair/board themselves to show face, tell us what they are going to do, or give reason for why they are doing nothing.

The Supporters Trust board are just confirming details for an open meeting. 

Watch this space 

Well I took the A9 to Kingussie this afternoon and enjoyed watching Kingussie steal a win against Kyles Athletic with two bangers in the last five minutes from that well known Highlander - Savio Genini.

1 hour ago, L_G said:

The Supporters Trust board are just confirming details for an open meeting. 

Watch this space 

And whats an open meeting?

6 minutes ago, ictbob said:

And whats an open meeting?

I assume it means that rather than just the board meeting, anyone who is a member of the ST can attend and participate in the meeting ?! 

 

7 hours ago, STFU said:

What I'm seeing in this conversation is that there are fans who would like to see some action being taken, even though there's no real consensus on what that should look like.  There's even a growing number of fans who were against the idea or sitting on the fence who are moving towards the idea that something needs to be done.

The biggest hurdle to any action being taken by fans seems to be the lack of leadership/organisation.  No group is better placed to do this than the Supporters Trust, and it is part of their objectives to represent fans/community in these matters - https://www.ictsupporterstrust.org/the-trust

In my opinion, they are complicit in their total silence and lack of acknowledgement of the the fans' concerns outlined in this thread and on the wider forum.  This only serves to strengthen the club's position that fans don't/should not have a voice, and can be ignored.

We've had all the excuses from ex trust board members and volunteers.  Time for the chair/board themselves to show face, tell us what they are going to do, or give reason for why they are doing nothing.

Too complicit, compliant, frightened and too late!

A mealy mouthed timid ‘can the club possibly look at getting a win’ - ‘that will help us get more signed up members’

Change will only come when it hits them in the pocket. Nothing else counts to this lot! The most visible way is low attendances. But the way things are going that’s already happening! 

bc

Edited September 9, 20232 yr by big cherly

15 minutes ago, ictbob said:

And whats an open meeting?

Think it means all fans not just members welcome 

Today marks the 30th Anniversary of the historic votes which led to the merger and the creation of ICT.  The intervening years have brought a great deal of success with the club having won the Scottish Cup, had several years in the premiership, and played in Europe. There have been some hugely memorable days during that period and we can look back with a lot of pride. Against that history it is very sad, 30 years on, to see where the club is now. We are struggling in a lower division, getting beaten by part time sides, haemorrhaging support, and have a Board of Directors and senior management that seem to care little for the supporters and their concerns. It therefore seems like an appropriate time for people to make their views known to the club. The current decline on and off the pitch needs to be turned around, and soon.

As STFU says, the Supporters Trust is best placed to represent the fans.  Hopefully an open meeting will be the opportunity for people who are concerned about the state of the club to come forward and offer some constructive help to the Trust.  The Trust Board is democratically elected by its members and all supporters are welcome to join.  The Trust Board is, therefore,  what the supporters make it to be.  If the supporters want the Trust to be more effective, then the supporters have it in their power to make it so.

1 hour ago, DoofersDad said:

Today marks the 30th Anniversary of the historic votes which led to the merger and the creation of ICT.  The intervening years have brought a great deal of success with the club having won the Scottish Cup, had several years in the premiership, and played in Europe. There have been some hugely memorable days during that period and we can look back with a lot of pride. Against that history it is very sad, 30 years on, to see where the club is now. We are struggling in a lower division, getting beaten by part time sides, haemorrhaging support, and have a Board of Directors and senior management that seem to care little for the supporters and their concerns. It therefore seems like an appropriate time for people to make their views known to the club. The current decline on and off the pitch needs to be turned around, and soon.

As STFU says, the Supporters Trust is best placed to represent the fans.  Hopefully an open meeting will be the opportunity for people who are concerned about the state of the club to come forward and offer some constructive help to the Trust.  The Trust Board is democratically elected by its members and all supporters are welcome to join.  The Trust Board is, therefore,  what the supporters make it to be.  If the supporters want the Trust to be more effective, then the supporters have it in their power to make it so.

Do you speak on behalf of the Trust, or are they so aloof that unless you’re a trust member then you don’t count? 

We are where we are with the Trust being a formal part of that broken decline over the past years.                        Radical change is needed, not more appointments, surveys, committee reviews or SLO emails
 
Until the trust is transparent and in communication with all fans then for me, it remains part of the problem. 

bc
 

Edited September 9, 20232 yr by big cherly