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Rather sad thread isnt it - and here am poor me with the worst reputation and disciplinary record around. Drunk and Incapable and Drunk and Disorderly(ish), standing up and singing incessantly (including swearing, taunting away supporters - especially when there is a hint of sectarianism), friendly albeit offensive banter withn away supporters are all acceptable terrace behaviours IMHO but - bullying fellow fans (usually younger fans); picking fights within your own group, doing it in the safety of a group behind you; slagging off players or the club are unacceptable ICT behaviours. And sorry but carrying it on here - there is a PM system - and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten.

I was sitting very near the top left corner of the stand at tynecastle and was very much enjoying my 1st away game this season. However the whole experience was marred by a few ICT fans who seemed only happy if they were causing trouble and abusing people. The main offender was constantly using the "c" word and hurling abuse towards the hearts fans that were sitting at the far right corner of the main stand (a bit of fun banter is good but this was verbal abuse) He then started to slag off most of the ICT by saying there were all "donuts" and that foran has no place in the side (i think we know who the donut is and it aint foran). Then, this lad and his mate started to have a go at the fans in front of me because they were disagreing with there "donut" remark about foran saying he is a star player for ICT. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you start swearing to people and basically treatening them that they are wrong is disgracefull. I would be happy never to see these people at an ICT game again, your support is not welcome!!!

Merry Christmas and Happly New Year to you ALL

I wasn't there so cant really comment nor do I know any of the people involved but I will say. If it was a stag do they were probably well tanked up and I would also imagine that not all of them were ICT fans but went along to the game because the stag wanted them there. Just put it down to people being drunk and were trying to, get attention/impress their buddies in some strange way. Save your energy for the St Mirren game and keep your memories of the match, You know, Always believe in Munro.

I think he owes it to the club to sign a new deal, Then if a club is after him then they would have to pay a fee for him, helping the club and if he keeps going the way he is there will be plenty of clubs in the championship willing to pay a fee. Walking away for free is of no benifit to the club which has helped him get to this level.

Sometimes reading this forum really makes me cringe.

Think of all of the good strikers who have graced the pitch at TCS. Rooney is up there, but he's not the first. And won't be the last.

I propose Dougal as team captain for cto ladies.

Looks like Innes for a wee festive swally with the regulars then TCS for footie, lift home then xmas dinner no2, wine, film, wee doss....

All I can deduce from this whole threads is mountains and molehills.

I'm sure that Birdog could assemble a couple of teams.

Nope - they wanted to sit it out and rest.

- and calling for a club employee to be informed to sort it out - that is Kindergarten Couldnt agree more mate but just shows what many in the support are like,people complaining about nonsense like this clearly never went football before 1994!!

Too many people within the support always bitching about other supporters and what they are up to,ok the guy doesn't rate Foran he is entitled to his opinion some people like players in different ways he pays his money for his season ticket or ticket on the day then he is entitled to shout his support or frustrations all he wants. Some people in the ICT support would be better getting on with watching the game instead of their fellow supporters Outrageous behaviour calling someone a Donught where will it all end,if it ever gets to people calling players eclairs i'd call the polis!!!

Superb post, totally agree with everything you said there. Althought I wouldn't have used the word clowns or idiots. F****** A***holes is what they are. They are an absolute embarrassment to themselves. Apologies for the language but it seemed to be perfectly ok for them to use it on saturday. I'm all for everyone having their own opinion, but when that opinion is slagging off our own players, when we're having one of the best seasons ever, then they should take that opinions elsewhere. Doesn't really surprise me with this group of fans we're referring to though, they shout the same sort of s*** at home games as well. Disgraceful.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Apparently Dingwall was the preferred choice to Bethlehem, but God couldn't find three wise men, or a virgin.

Newcastle are perenial under-achieviers. I don't know when they last won anything worth winning. This decision is so bizarre it is almost as though the Board is worried they might actually win something with Hughton so have bought Pardew in to restore mediocrity to the club.

OH FFS.....Alan FCuKIN Pardew.....this is a disgrace! So much for an experienced Manager. I can see Newcastle going down again! ASHLEIGH OOT!!

No, but the appropriately named Barrowman could be used to clear the snow from the pitch.

Now if ICT were to offer to pick fans up at 9 ish in their minibus, how cool would that be getting picked up from your house in the ICT bus, just a thought.

As someone has already said, differences of opinion, shouting, swearing is all part and parcel of football, and I couldn't agree more. But thats not the point here, or certainly not the point I was making, far from it. The point I was making is how the hell can anyone be so negative towards our own team and players when we are in the form we are in? That is what really pissed me off on Saturday. When we are having the season of our lives like we currently are, I do not appreciate any so called ICT fan sitting for 90 mins and slagging off one of our own players. Especially our club captain. And it wasn't just a one off remark it went on throughout the whole game... And lets be honest, the word he chose to use to describe Ritchie Foran is not important in the slightest, donut, ****, *****, whatever, who cares the word ain't important - it was the fact he was being totally negative and not supporting the team that annoyed me, and clearly a lot of others around him. I'm sorry but say what you want, anyone who claims to be an ICT fan acting like that is a disgrace. There are differences of opinion, then there is someone just talking complete *****. If you can't support ICT at a time like this, then you should take your negative comments somewhere else as far as I'm concerned. Not gonna say anything else on the matter.

First off "the ginger destroyer" is my mate, those who know him will see him in the Innes before every home game. I am the "idiot" who told your mate to "just sit the **** down" because, without sounding childish, if he kept his mouth shut in the first place the flippant remark would have just been that. Instead he decided to mutter some rant which achieved the argument he was looking for. He then gets "his friends" to post their discontent on a forum about a nothing incident that he started. Yeh "the ginger destroyer" went over the top to make his point about having his own opinion but he didn't take kindly to someone picking out a comment about a bad pass. ffs "donut" is hardly the strongest language you will hear at in a football stand. "They weren't supporting the team on Saturday, just shouting ridiculous comments aimed at our own players" I'll let the idiot remark slip but talking absolute p!sh just to try and make you look like a good guy shows exactly what you are all about. The rest of us were telling our boy to pipe down just as I told your mate... there was no need for it to have happened in the first place. I'd love to know why you weren't this chatty at the game and instead decided to post on the internet 2 days letter when everyone else has forgotten you and your mate existed.

I'll say again, 1 guy reacted badly after someone he didn't know decided to make something out of a nothing remark. Some of what was said after was well over the top and he was told that by the rest of us. The only reason I got involved was to prevent the situation getting any worse. There were 10 of us at the game on Saturday, all ICT supporters and have been since the telford street days. There was nothing but encouragement (and nail biting) from everyone else. 10 of us on a stag day... it got messy (ask san miguel & the knowledge). Abuse at Hearts fans?? they had a red hand of ulster flag on show and deserved all the "abuse" they received. As for our right to be at the game, or, "these are the supporters we don't need" comments from you and your boy. I'm glad you are taking into context the time's we have followed the team around the country, the season tickets held in our group, when we turned out when it wasn't fashionable to follow ICT in the lower divisions. I'm all for us encouraging kids going to the game but I fail to see why you think you have any right to decide we aren't the type of the fans the club needs. Especially since it seems you don't have all the facts of the situation and decided to draw your own conclusion from afar. and you are? 3rd game of the season and proud of it. I go to the games I can make it to, unfortunately not as many as I'd like. Probably why you haven't seen me posting on here too often recently, does that make me less of a supporter?

Your first post and this, for the most of it, are inaccurate. He is mouthy, always has been, but didn't kick off until he was getting pulled up for a throw away remark about a miss placed pass. No a welsh flag is fine. To be honest I wasn't bothered with the flag but I can understand why others would be. Again, you are trying to use a one off incident regarding 2 people to reflect another 9 fans who were sitting enjoying the match and encouraging the team.

I've always thought top four this season. We're simply a better side, better organised, with a better spirit and better players than the vast majority of the SPL. Let's hope the Jambos wee run fizzles out soon so we can glide past them.

Any man for themself in this world, Adam isnt due ICT nothing. I think he will. Considering we have offered him on par wages with what Niculae was getting, this should surely show him what he means to us. Balls in his court.