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What an extraordinary statement from CJT. CJT held an AGM on 5th December 2017. As is evident on a very lengthy thread elsewhere, very short notice was given for this meeting and many members received no notification. Due to the short notice, I was unable to attend but it seems as though the meeting was a shambles. I am not aware that CJT have issued any report or minute of that meeting but Caley D summed up his impression of the meeting by posting "Long and short of it.....the society is currently in abeyance due to having insufficient board members. An EGM will be held at some point in the future (no timescale was given) to rectify this and bring it back into proper operating order." In CJT's statement above there is reference to a Board meeting being held; that the Board is now up to 6 members and that this Board is now seeking 4 more members. But there is no mention of holding an EGM. Why not? The statement says "We need to know what’s important to you". I would have thought what is important to us is clear from the 6 page thread elsewhere on the forum. We want a supporters' body which is representative of the supporters, which actively works in the interests of the supporters and which keeps the supporters fully informed. Instead, we appear to have a self-appointed group who, over many years, appear to have done very little in representing supporters' interests, have consistently failed to communicate with the members and who appear to be acting unconstitutionally by simply ignoring what I understand was an unopposed call at the AGM for an EGM. The statement goes on to say "We are actively working to update membership records so we would like to encourage you to respond promptly." Just what exactly are people supposed to respond to? Is this supposed to mean that yet again members are expected contact CJT to tell them we are members? And if we don't, will we be deemed not to be members? The statement refers to a proposed meeting with Graeme Rae. Surely it is quite inappropriate for such a meeting to take place before the EGM takes place? It is vital that communication with the club on behalf of the supporters is carried out by people who have a remit from the supporters. It seems strange that after weeks of silence, this anonymous statement should appear so soon after Davie's recent post in which he stated that he would attempt to call an EGM with the aim of calling for the resignation of the existing Board membersand electing a new Board to take CJT forward. I will be interested to hear what progress Davie is making in due course. But one thing is clear. This mess has to be cleared up ASAP both to protect the voting rights and to give the supporters a genuine voice within the club. We have to have an EGM as soon as possible to establish a new Board to take things forward. That will provide a platform for the existing Board members to state their case and argue as to why they think they should continue in post. It will then be for the members to decide.

An anonymous post, with no details, a 'board' composed of 6 unidentified people, and a vague promise to put things right, whilst appearing not to have a clue who the members are of this organisation. What is your remit to make any announcement at all, and who do you represent? Not the supporters because they have no way of knowing who you are or what you intend to do, especially as they have been shut out and ignored for months, if not years. The whole thing needs scrapped and reformed, with open, identifiable people answerable to their members and supporters. I expect another two to six months of complete silence. Graeme Rae will throw you out on your ear, quite rightly, until a responsible, professional organisation is established.

I’m swithering between being really hacked off or delighted at the OP from CJT. The statement is disingenuous, shows an utter disregard for the membership and displays an arrogance that people who are members of CJT really need to challenge. It’s dreadful but judging by the replies thus far the challenge is exactly what is happening. This Board (whoever it might be) cannot be constituted properly and cannot be valid. The last meeting (the AGM) broke up after being mismanaged (as was the case with the previous AGM) and the Board at that time was left without sufficient members to continue (2 or 3 depending on your viewpoint about electing a treasurer). The Board was not in any way endorsed from the floor. The only thing that was agreed was that Laura should redouble efforts to establish an accurate membership figure and then come back to that membership with a properly constructed AGM/EGM under the rules. No information was given (despite repeated requests) about the rules being submitted for approval or any other business. No minutes have been published. The Board were not “given time” to do anything in regard to appointing casual or co-opted directors and its rules don’t allow for it in the numbers stated. I am told that the input from SDS has been limited to giving CJT the model rules and advising on completing them. Nothing more. It’s important to state that people on this forum and elsewhere have not “borne with” CJT on this. They have become increasingly concerned and exasperated to the point of moving to demit this Board and that is presumably what has prompted this fairly disgraceful statement. DD has asked all of the questions that I would have, I’m not holding my breath on answers. Let’s just get to an EGM and elect a Board who can actually do the job. We still need people to commit to putting their names to the call for a special meeting, can I respectfully ask you to give me a direct message with your membership number and I’ll add you to the list and I will respond to each and every message. We need as many as possible.

I think it's quite important to supporters to know who the six board members are?

I appreciate that there exists bad blood between former board members, those who purport to be current officials and various others who may have been disappointed at not been elected in the past but acrimony and public blood letting does not help. If we are united in one thing it's the continuing existence of the club and with the hard fought for fan representation and share holding. It doesn't really matter how we got here. It's clear that mistakes have been made and matters probably concealed but there is no nothing to be gained from blaming or finger pointing. What is important is that the matter is retrieved before it becomes too late. The OP is a modest start but those who have chosen the 'burden' of office bearers must now stand up to the plate and be more forthcoming or be prepared to step aside voluntarily.

I absolutely agree that CJT need to discuss the voting rights with the Club Board before anything else, but in order to do that, it is essential to establish that the people representing CJT are doing so legitimately and have the backing of the membership. We need an EGM and then it should be the CJT Board which emerges from that which takes the issue forward.

So let me get this straight - what we now have is an anonymous claim that a (so far - BUMP!) anonymous group of six people has apparently, and in the absence for some time of a General Meeting of the Society, appointed itself to run the said society (if it still legally exists) and hence control 10% of the voting rights (one of the biggest single allocations) of a company with a turnover of several million pounds per annum. Presumably applications for the remaining four positions should be lodged with the Society's secretary - Mr D Trotter, Nelson Mandela House, Peckham, or the Chairperson Mr A Daley, c/o The Winchester Club, East London.

Whilst a welcome change from the months of silence, that original post is utterly inadequate and raises far more questions than answers. Further clarity and explanation is required in the very near future. By that, I would suggest hours or, at most days, rather than further weeks or months.

A meeting with the Chairman is a priority but, after the chaos of recent months, it's vital that it is established that the current board is properly constituted and that any officials who approach the club have the legitimate locus to do so which is one reason why further clarity is urgently required.

Actually, I think that an early meeting between CJT and the Chairman is important, to resolve something that I keep banging on about, and that Charles has mentioned above. That is, to allow the CJT board to state their case and present their credentials in support of any claim that they may make to be in control of 10% of the voting rights. The Chairman and the ICT Board should then decide whether or not they will accept such a claim, possibly after taking legal advice. In fact, the CJT board should themselves probably take legal advice before making any such claim. If CJT don't make such a claim - or if the ICT board reject it - then the next question is who the hell does control these votes. Settle that first - then you can start discussing the state of the path between the car park and the stadium.

thanks for the replies. booked up through the facebook page.

I think before any meeting between CJT and the chairman it is better to address the issues within CJT, firstly not automatically releasing names & positions of board members and the process that facilitated this. This is how far away CJT is currently (disregarding the fact that there has been no viable website for years) as an example, if this is really needed, to highlight the yawning gap in where we are: http://www.pompeytrust.com/our-board

Thanks for the confirmation that cjt has risen from what seemed to be the ashes. it is so important that the 10% voting rights are retained. it would be good to have the names of current board members. Thanks again.

This post has nothing to do with CJT. Can we please keep the thread on topic.

There are probably many supporters who would consider joining or assisting CJT but are simply being put off by the actions of the CJT board. While a family bereavement is hugely upsetting, the reason you have a board is that others can step in when required. CJT seem bereft of any understanding of why their role is so important. There is certainly also some blame to be attached to fans not getting involved previously, myself included, but there does appear to be a genuine upsurge in interest which CJT should be encouraging, not ignoring.

Which stage is she on ? and what is she singing .......... I never felt more like singing the blues ?

I think that with a bit more self belief amongst the players, a bit more discipline and a bit more luck, reaching the play offs is still realistic. And once there - well, anything could happen. But to be honest, I hope we don't get promoted this season because I don't think we have the resources within the club to be anything than canon fodder next season in what is a stronger Premiership than when we left it. I think Robbo has done great work in starting the rebuilding process but there is still much to do both on and off the field. This year is about stopping the rot. Next season we can think about moving forward again.

I had lost hope of promotion after Saturday, but after Morton lost last night, I have a new found belief. If we beat Brechin and Dunfermilne (big if's) then all of a sudden, we are in 5th, ahead of QoTS and Dunfermilne, and just 5 points off Morton having played the same number of games. From then, especially with another game against Morton, anything can happen. We need to install some POSITIVITY amongst ourselves and back the boys on Saturday against Brechin. That's the first of two really big games. If we win those two then we really are right back in the hunt.

I would in general find it very interesting to hear more about the chair person or directors and find out if we as people can do more things to support them since I am considering myself in the near future since my own business sales is growing quite well currently to become sponsor of Caley but if that kind of thing did happen I would want a say in like for example I say give £50,000 to buy a great player and agreed to pay his wage a month or give say £5000 to say help the people in charge of Caley be able to arrange things better like for example better accounting program to make the money management easier . Maybe I am to Highland but the way I taught to be proper Highlander is to always ask people questions straight forward. Regarding someone outside business such as someone going to the after life ones to me, that's private matter for example my gran mother died 6 years I never really told anyone else that since to me it's not their concern what I go though so I had to support my mother before over that period when I do jobs or things, in general, I feel it's not really my business of someone loss unless we say close friends or business friends or the person openly wants to admit then I will do whatever I can to help them.

I think that what I was trying to succinctly put across is that we are NOT in current debt - We are NOT in danger of administration or of going burst - BUT we have been saved once again by injections of cash and the political battle is now being waged between Tulloch and the Muirfield Mills NOT Orion and Tulloch - (although I suspect that Orion and Mr Savage have a side issue involvement). The future aint bright but the future aint shitttee either. The concern is that we do not have the spondoolachs to look at any new investment - a 3G pitch would be fantastic but we cant afford the quality players to grace it. Until things change we are stuck in the Championship - at least.

As I have been told on a number of occasions IHE, you are unlikely to get an answer on this forum so I suggest you contact the Club direct (where you are also unlikely to get an answer).

From the clubs website today. http://ictfc.com/news/club-news/2137-countdown-to-ict-25th-anniversary-celebrations We have begun the countdown to marking the club's silver jubilee. The 25th anniversary commemoration will kick off in one year’s time - on 24 February – the date in 1994 when the board of the new club, comprising representatives from Inverness and Nairn Enterprise as well as the former committees of Caledonian and Inverness Thistle met for the first time at Balnain House, Inverness. The landmark birthday is seen as a great opportunity to relaunch the club, generating new interest within the community and give loyal fans many exciting events to look forward to. An organising committee has been set up to draw up a memorable programme of events. Chairman Graham Rae said: “ICT 25 gives us the chance to generate huge interest in the club. We want to engage with our supporters to capture all their ideas for a truly memorable year of celebrations. There are opportunities for existing and new sponsors to back the club, which generates £5 million per year for the local economy. We have a proud history and a very bright future ahead.” Some of the high level ideas being suggested for the year of celebration are:- Organising a keynote match against prominent opposition Creating a memorabilia museum within the stadium, featuring a hall of fame and memorabilia Producing a film and photo-led book on the club’s history Staging events such as a celebration dinner/golf event/reunion Creating new merchandise including, a special commemorative strip. The club’s first competitive game was played on 9 August 1994 – a 2-0 win over East Stirlingshire at Firs Park in a Coca Cola Cup Round 1 tie. The club’s first Scottish League Division 3 match followed on 13 August – a 5-2 home win over Arbroath. One personality who has been associated with the club since its formation is Charlie Christie, who played more than 300 games for the club, managed the club and is now Head of Youth Development. Charlie is playing a key role on the organising committee. Charlie was Man of the Match in the club’s unforgettable Scottish Cup victory over Celtic in February 2000 and his son, Ryan, featured in the historic side that lifted the Scottish Cup in May 2015 and is now a Scottish internationalist. Charlie said: “There have been so many good times in the short life of our club and it is our aim to involve as many people as possible who have played a part in creating such great memories.”

Following our board meeting of 27th February we would like to thank you for giving us the time to get our rules registered and accounts signed. The last two months have been very difficult, double family bereavements have made normal day to day activities difficult to undertake and we thank you for bearing with us. Working closely with Supporters Direct Scotland we have now been able to register the model rules and have the accounts signed. The board now has 6 members who are working hard to take the society forward and we would like to invite a further four enthusiasts to join us. We need to know what’s important to you and how you want to make your voice heard. We are currently in the process of setting up a meeting with the Graeme Rae, ICT Chairman. We are actively working to update membership records so we would like to encourage you to respond promptly. Remember to check your junk mail and filters to allow Supporters Trust emails from [email protected] .

Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry that we haven't been able to respond sooner but we are a group of volunteers who all have other commitments. First of all we would like to confirm that the board is indeed correctly constituted and valid as we have worked closely with Supporters Direct to ensure that this is the case. The board is made up as follows Chair - Liz MacRae Appointed Company Secretary - Hamish Wood Appointed Treasurer - Kath Fraser Director - Laura Grant Director - Cliff Sim Co-opted Membership Secretary - Issy Fairclough Thank you to those of you who have come forward with offers of help, we look forward to meeting with you as soon as possible.

Brechin City 17/2 (Bet365) for the win

There seems to be a lot of naval gazing going on All teams in this league consider themselves too good for it ( Brechin City excepted) - There are positives to the season , but we tend to dwell on the negatives. In football just keep the flag flying there is always another season. Did anybody really want to make the play-offs , hand on heart. To perish on the rock of Partick, Ross County , or Hamilton. Even if the Gods smiled on us , Next season would be a nightmare. WE need to rebuild has have St Mirren , and go up with a good side. . I am glad we seem to have avoided a play-off at the other end of the table. Raith Rovers or similar would not be easy.