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Club Statement
As one major part of our planned strategic restructure of the club, ICTFC are delighted to announce an innovative agreement with League 1 side Kelty Hearts which will see the club move our training base to the Fife club’s New Central Park Stadium.
This creative partnership will mean that we will hire their excellent facilities which include a 3g pitch, onsite grass pitches and offices for our coaching staff, as our training base during the week starting from this coming pre-season in June.
The last few years have seen the geographic challenges in getting players to move to the Highlands become ever harder for a number of reasons.
Caledonian Stadium will always be our home, but other factors in Scottish football have changed and where we train should not be an impediment to the quality of the players we can attract to Caley Thistle, or to our potential to progress.
The commercial success of the city of Inverness – which will always be our home - both as a tourist destination and a place to live, has led to very high prices for the accommodation we require to house players. In addition to these high costs which our competitors do not carry, the extremely limited housing stock in Inverness continues to be both a challenge and a huge factor working against us.
Increased playing budgets in and around the central belt has meant that on many occasions, even when we have offered players more favourable terms than our competitors, sometimes even agreed deals, we have then been told that the player has changed his mind due to challenges relocating their families. Support structures in and around the families of players may all be in and around the central belt, partners will have jobs where they live and moving kids schools to the Highlands and moving home itself can just be seen as impractical for a one or two year contract.
It makes it particularly challenging for us to sign senior players, a category which through no fault of our budget, or of previous ICT Managers, we have struggled to attract in the last few seasons.
Similarly, our location means that we miss out on the opportunity of signing promising players from the larger clubs in Scotland, on loan or otherwise.
For the avoidance of any doubt we absolutely intend to continue to develop our own homegrown Highland boys and we will take the appropriate steps to make sure that by being creative, innovative and practical, they do not miss out on the chance to have a pathway to first team football with their team. We have a proud tradition of introducing local players in to our first team and this will absolutely continue.
We obviously never intended to be in the same division as Kelty when originally exploring this concept, but football throws strange things at you sometimes and having reassessed the proposition and judged that the pros still far outweigh the cons, we would like to thank the Board of Kelty Hearts and MD Stefan Winiarski and his management team for considering this unique to the SPFL partnership, and then seeing and agreeing on the possibilities and benefits for both clubs.
To reiterate, by moving our footballing department's training base to central Scotland, both the club's Board of Directors and the club's First Team Management feel we give ourselves the best possible chance to attract the highest quality players to the club, allowing some of the players we sign to also live in and around the central belt while playing for ICTFC.
We now look forward to taking further positive strides on and off the pitch to address the football and financial challenges we face we believe this exciting opportunity to help us attract players previously not available to us and build a better squad, is one of the first steps we can make and we hope to develop further innovative partnerships.
Inverness is and will always be our home.
The Caledonian Stadium will always be where we play our football. We hope this venture will help us achieve our goal in giving our supporters a team to be proud of.

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    No we can't! Why would any central belt player choose to join a club which requires players to face a 3 hour journey to play "home" games followed by a 3 hour journey back - in the middle of wint

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23 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

Unfortunately it seems more likely than ever before. But it’s what the fans want…

Not sure the fans want administration.  They probably want a properly run club with a sensible plan to go forward. It says a lot about the club that administration is preferable to the current plan.

Absolutely spineless to walk away and tell the board that's left that Gardiner is their problem.

No acceptance of accountability from beginning to end.

10 minutes ago, robbylad said:

Not sure the fans want administration.  They probably want a properly run club with a sensible plan to go forward. It says a lot about the club that administration is preferable to the current plan.

I would suggest Administration is more likely with the plan than without it. Not a shred of any argument has been given as to why we would get a better team through this plan or why targeted players would choose us over central belt teams. And because players are not locally based, it is inevitable that a lot of fans would increasingly lose interest. 

8 minutes ago, STFU said:

 

Absolutely spineless to walk away and tell the board that's left that Gardiner is their problem.

No acceptance of accountability from beginning to end

 

Totally agree. I had some sympathy for him before this but to just walk away and say it’s your mess now, you deal with it is ridiculous when he’s allowed it to get to this point. 

17 minutes ago, STFU said:

Absolutely spineless to walk away and tell the board that's left that Gardiner is their problem.

I was reminded of David Cameron after the Brexit referendum.

4 hours ago, KirkieRobRoy said:

From the Ewan Murray Graun article;

A blunt reality is that Inverness could win their first eight matches next season and nobody would care where they train.

I don't think that's true.

 

Interesting, isn’t it, the difference between the views of some people who take a central belt perspective and the local or locally sympathetic view.

Also “Inverness could win their first eight matches next season…” Could they REALLY?😩

4 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Interesting, isn’t it, the difference between the views of some people who take a central belt perspective and the local or locally sympathetic view.

Also “Inverness could win their first eight matches next season…” Could they REALLY?😩

If we win our first 8 games without a goalie,  I'll put a pound on us romping the league 🤷

56 minutes ago, RiG said:

Kelty move off? 

Beeb suggesting it could be - board meeting tonight?

Just read Alan Savage’s piece in the Courier. Doesn’t pull his punches about the imbecilic move and how he needs to ringfence his financial support and won’t deal with Gardiner. Ryan Christie bought footballs last year because there was no money? What kind of priorities has the board had? Crazy.

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4 minutes ago, IBM said:

And as usual nothing on the official site I presume they might issue a statement next week :wink:

I'm shocked we haven't put out the club shop opening hours! Something must be badly wrong. 😮

12 minutes ago, IcyT said:

Beeb suggesting it could be - board meeting tonight?

Just read Alan Savage’s piece in the Courier. Doesn’t pull his punches about the imbecilic move and how he needs to ringfence his financial support and won’t deal with Gardiner. Ryan Christie bought footballs last year because there was no money? What kind of priorities has the board had? Crazy.

Yes, an interesting read.  Nice to hear some common sense from a former Chairman.  Someone who would like to see the club become a football club again.

31 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

Interesting, isn’t it, the difference between the views of some people who take a central belt perspective and the local or locally sympathetic view.

I occasionally read his articles, when they reach the front page of the Grauniad's website. 

I actually thought that was one of his better articles.  Until that bit :thumbdown:

37 minutes ago, robbylad said:

If we win our first 8 games without a goalie,  I'll put a pound on us romping the league 🤷

We're not going to win eight all season with DF in charge...goalie or not. 🤔

In other news, Clach have put their season tickets on sale. £150 for adults, £75 for concessions of 60+...

...just incase Mr Gardiner's stubbornness prevails and Kelty goes ahead

40 minutes ago, DoofersDad said:

Yes, an interesting read.  Nice to hear some common sense from a former Chairman.  Someone who would like to see the club become a football club again.

The last line he states football clubs shouldn't be doing any daft stuff like battery farms.

I seem to recall an open letter he wrote supporting the proposal .

Strange.

11 minutes ago, Jack Waddington said:

In other news, Clach have put their season tickets on sale. £150 for adults, £75 for concessions of 60+...

...just incase Mr Gardiner's stubbornness prevails and Kelty goes ahead

Ideal for the turncoats 

27 minutes ago, Leaky Blinder said:

Statktraft have walked as well

 

2 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

I'm not a fan of Ferguson but I think the reality here is that whilst we need the CEO gone and the Kelty deal reversed, we simply can't afford to pay Ferguson off.

He has had 34 games to keep us up, he hasn’t. What cost in keeping him. Can you see him wanting to stat in L1 ????? Bad times ☹️

2 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

The club shop!  Is that where you can buy the club at a discounted rate?

Maybe even undercut the £1 paid for Rangers.😂

40 days to sort out the mess the club is in off the park and find the money to sign players to put a team on the park.

Given everything that's happened there's no way the board can trust Gardiner to play any part in that.

It was Kelty that brought it forward by a month: '...due to the loud negative opinions from the fans to the idea of moving to Kelty, I feel that bringing this forward might be better timing' 

Another of the ex-Chairman's Evel Knievl logical leaps there. 

  • fans...and... Alan Savage, Roy MacGregor, former players, staff, ex-staff, Richard Gordon, Tom English et al
  • It wasn't an idea, it was announced and agreed
  • They weren't opinions - more like sound and reasoned arguments and reservations

Hearing fans saying they would prefer administration to training the first team in Kelty sent a shiver down my spine". 

  • Aye, a shiver because of ex-Chairman's director loan account and other assets, I'll be bound.  The depth of feeling, and lack of alternatives/consultation from the board, led to such extremes.  No doubt, that'll be his mantra when it happens.

Quite aside from the actual plan itself 

--announcing Kelty without any consultation with A N other was - and remains - an act against the club

--Announcing as 'delighted to...' was massively crass in the extreme

--Announcing and agreeing it without having checked that Fife Council were even aware/had agreed was amateur and gross dereliction

When administration does come - the Kelty smokescreen will recede, and the late accounts, neglect of professional football's basics in favour of failed speculative gambles, mismanagement of contract and application writing, treatment of fans with disdain and contempt, partisan infighting, throwing scarce resources away needlessly at unqualified and incompetent CEOs and managers, to the extent that ex-players were having to buy the footballs, will be the legacy.  

Edited by Achfary

I assume the Emergency Board meeting has finished!! Such is the crisis. If Morrison was honest in saying he told the Board that he would be resigning at the end of June 2024 they would no doubt have considered a new Chairman. Hang on, this is the Club in Scotland that is in greatest danger of its existence which has blindly been lead to the precipice. Forget 'this day in 2015 we won the Scottish Cup' but who will now save the club?

Hopefully today, we await what will be dramatic news from  decisions reached at the Emergency Board meeting.

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