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  1. 4 points
    Largely agree with Charles here. Plenty of folk have been on here moaning, myself included about things at the club in recent weeks and months. Surely we can muster up 120 people to head along to this event and express their concerns despite the short notice? if not it will only serve to strengthen the notion that a lot of people are happy to piss and moan about stuff they don't like but not do anything about it when afforded the opportunity. So if you're annoyed about season ticket prices, the Pride of the Highlands badge, the poor communication through Twitter and Facebook or whatever it may be this is your chance to speak up about it. If you can't be bothered to do so then don't bother complaining about these things in the future.
  2. 4 points
    Just because it should have happened in January doesn't mean we shouldn't embrace it now. The Chairman in January is no longer on the Board and the new Chairman who has sent out the invitation was not on the Board in January. It is clean slate time. It is time to all come together, accept that we are where we are and work cooperatively in order to restore a bit of pride in the club.
  3. I'm sure we'll get an announcement from the club in the coming weeks...
  4. 2 points
    just watched the stv interview with our new chairman. what was he sitting in front of ---- a very large, expensive mirror with that bludy ICTFC PRIDE OF THE HIGHLANDS crap engraved on it. What an embarrassment when opposition directors visit.?
  5. 2 points
    Clearly you don't going by the above which in a way makes the comment worse. I don't normally comment directly like this as it may be construed as picking on someone but your initial post is in bad taste even if it was meant as a joke. More than one person pointed it out so just remove it please and don't antagonise the situation. Having first hand experience of this illness I don't wish it on anyone and it's certainly not something to be joked about.
  6. 2 points
    Who holds the paracetamol that's the question I ask
  7. According to this piece in the Courier we're not looking to sign Donaldson: http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/John-Robertson-Its-up-to-us-to-lift-the-mood-of-Caley-Thistle-supporters-17082017.htm Has he just rocked up and stuck on an ICT kit to appear in the team photo?!
  8. Surely any competent business prepare budgets on best(top 6) and worst (relegation) case scenarios. This was obviously not done. If it was and Cameron kept to the set budgets we would not be in this positnion. He cannot be defended for his role in this situation.
  9. 2 points
    Its positive that there is going to be a face to face opportunity and that given the negativity around at the moment the club/board haven't decided just to hide away and are pressing forward with this event. As posted above there are fans that live remote (with a ST) who realistically cant travel for 2 hours on a Monday night - are CJT having a presence? Is there a platform where fans who cannot attend can submit questions for consideration on the evening either directly or via fan groups?
  10. 2 points
    IBM has omitted the bit about the need to pre-register if you are attending. This is because there is only space for 120 people and clearly they don't want to turn folk away. I like the optimism that more than 120 will want to attend. I'm undecided at the moment. I might wait and see how many Morton beat us by on Saturday and then check availability on Monday Seriously though, It is good that the Board is doing this and given the extent of criticism there has been on this forum it would be really good if there is a great turnout. We are asking the Board to engage constructively with the fans so it really is incumbent on the fans to turn up when the Board provides the opportunity.. OK. I've convinced my self. I'm going regardless of the score on Saturday!
  11. We can always win the Scottish cup lol
  12. I'd be quite happy with a few diddy cup rounds. At the moment any extra games could help the team gel and give Robbo the chance to try a few things without the pressure of a league game.
  13. Im not convinced tbh. In OFW defence he played most of last season with an injury but due to circumstances still played. Hes our best keeper when fit imho
  14. Totally agree with you here Kingsmills. They have contracts and as you say we are paying them. Why not get value for our money. I'm sure they would give us their all in order to show other interested clubs that they are still up to the job.
  15. I appreciate that the intention may be to offload both OFW and David Raven but the fact is they are here and we are paying their salaries for now OFW looks a great deal safer and more reliable than Ridgers and Raven is better than any other defender currently at the club. Given how we are leaking goals, why are we not utilising them ?
  16. Yet last season people were saying Warren was too slow and questioning his place in the side with McCart and Laing available - yet we still got relegated. Now nobody is saying anything other than he is the cornerstone of our defence. It's an illustration of how weak folk perceive our defence to be and of how serious our plight is.
  17. 1 point
    I have no idea what the differences are between these various "factions". However, if representatives of any of them offered to wine and dine me and make their pitch, I would be willing to consider pledging my 750 shares to their cause.
  18. No back seat moderating now...
  19. 1 point
    A more appropriate question...... If MM are/were/still are five individuals, in any possible vote I assume they have a collective agreement?
  20. 1 point
    Perhaps I could try to answer these recent posts from Caleyboy, DD and afteryogi in a oner. If we are looking at voting power in any struggle for control (Alan Savage is denying such a notion in today's Courier), we need to look a bit further than the figures quoted in advance of the EGM - ie 3.9M issued shares which the EGM cleared to rise to 5M and which is already set to go to 4.4M with the £500,000 announced this week. That's because within these figures are 900,003 "non-voting shares" which were ascribed to Inverness Thistle FC, Caledonian FC and Highlands and Islands Enterprise (through INE) in respect of their roles in putting the club together in 1994. These are, however, what it says on the tin - non-voting - so are meaningless in this context. Remove these from the equation and you are left with 3,004,867 voting shares which will very soon go up to 3,504,867 when that new 500,000 are issued. The other refinement we need to make is that the "Supporters' Society" (ie CJT - if it still exists) is entitled to cast 10% of the votes in any poll. Adding that in increases the total votes to 3,894,297 and it's the percentages of this held by the various "factions" that matter. (You get 3,894,297 by adding one ninth to the total number of purchased shares which represent 90%.) These percentages held by the various factions are all higher by a factor of 1.13 compared with simply working it out based on 4.4M, which I initially did until I looked more closely into it. So it's from this that the Muirfield Mills influence over 1.05M shares translates to 27%. Meanwhile the McGilvrays' stake from Hospice and past acquisitions comes in at 12.5% and Savco from Hospice and bankrolling Niculae represents 12%, to which you could notionally add Graeme Bennett's 0.8%. It's important to note that even these updated percentages - apart from the Supporters' Society which is fixed - don't allow for who has/have bought the news 500K, which is unknown (to me at any rate!) Then, after that, the only other six figure blocks are the 6% or thereby which I estimate David Sutherland and his long time associates could muster and Roddy Ross's 4.4%. So effectively there are four "factions" based on aggregates of wealthy people who have put cash in over the years, and who do not always see eye to eye - McGilvray (MG), Savco (SC), Muirfield Mills (MM) and the Sutherland combine (DFS). In addition, there's Roddy Ross and the Supporters plus about 500 small investors. No two factions can top 50% but MM + MG + SC just does so. However there must be big questions as to whether their "past" would allow this to happen. It's difficult to see any ruling combination without MM, but they could maybe pull something off with the help of one of MG or SC (who, on the other hand appear to be operating a degree of cooperation) plus one or two others. If you think David Cameron (the ex-PM, not the ICT director!) had difficulty putting a coalition together in 2010, you ain't seen nothing yet! Afteryogi asks a very good question, but there would probably be practical difficulties in his suggestion, even if it were thought a good idea and could be arrived at by the necessary change which I imagine would have to take place to the Articles of Association. With a very finely balanced political situation like this, it's bad news indeed that the body which controls 10% of the vote is apparently totally dysfunctional.
  21. maybe better to just delete the part attracting comment.
  22. I'll stick to moaning about it on the internet I think.
  23. 1 point
    Jagster Nope! Not them because "The Leith Police Dismisseth Us".
  24. 1 point
    The Inverness Caledonian Thistle Trust is a charitable trust set up in 2001 as a vehicle to spirit away from the football club the toxic debt of over £2M which nearly sank it. Part of that deal was that ownership of the stadium lease and fabric also transferred to the Trust. In effect this was Tullochs, for a time in consort with the Bank of Scotland, picking up the tab for the debt. The fact that it has recently been announced that Tullochs are in the process of handing back the North and South stands AND the rest of the stadium (the fate of the site lease is unclear) to the club would appear to suggest that in the course of a complex sequence of transactions, Tullochs were also obliged to take de facto ownership of the entire stadium. These were the transactions which Caley D, in his pre-Damascene era in advance of finding God, said a lot about on here. At the same time, to solve the cash flow problem and give working capital, Tullochs also bought initially about 500K of shares but I think added to this. Fairly recently, these shares were donated to the ICT Trust and hence comprise all or at least the large bulk of that 729,500 (18.7%) holding. The understanding has been that Muirfield Mills control the Trust and hence these shares' votes and that tends to be confirmed now, since Paul MacInnes is one of their number while Richard Smith is at least quite closely associated with them. I had actually thought that they also had another member of that Trust but apparently not. Combined with their 2012 investment in 376,000 shares, this gives Muirfield Mills the biggest clout (27%) in terms of share blocks. I have a strong suspicion that the "Supporters' Society" may be a generic term for what began life as the Supporters' Trust and became CJT. Their main political clout within the football club is their 10% voting powers as described in my post two above this one. However it would appear that at some point they have also invested 13,408 of their own funds in the purchase of shares in the club. As stated in my earlier post, it's not clear what would happen to the right to exercise 10% of the total voting power if CJT were to wind up without a successor organisation. DD... while I was writing the above, you posted again. Hopefully what I have here answers much of what you say. All I would want to add is that the 300,000 Inverness Thistle shares, along with 600,000 Caledonian ones and 3 allocated to Highlands and Islands Enterprise, are all non-voting shares so don't come into the equation. This is what threw me initially and has caused me to revise the % holdings I originally calculated. These non-voting shares are relics of the merger and reflect input from Thistle, Caley and INE (part of HIE) in the process of putting the club together.
  25. 1 point
    Or is Caleyjagstogether simply Schroedinger's Cat and is hence simultaneously alive and dead?
  26. 1 point
    Looking at the names on the Companies House list, I would estimate about 6%. The numbers of shares held are clear and simple, but I keep tweaking very slightly my estimate of what % these represent as my perception of the voting procedure becomes clearer. Notwithstanding what I said earlier, I now have the biggest players as Muirfield Mills 27%; McGilvray family 12.5%; Savage/Orion 12%; the Supporters' Trust have a fixed 10% voting right; DFS and possible associates around 6%; Roddy Ross 4.4%. Remember that when you add up literally hundreds of individuals who have from 250 shares (0.0045%!) to a couple of thousand, these also make a considerable slice. (Note that this DOESN'T include whoever may have acquired the "new" 500,000) So, in the event of a battle for the club, who is going to jump into bed with whom? The Savage/McGilvray split of the Hospice shares may indicate a degree of empathy there, but you never know ALL of who may have fallen out with whom. You could possibly also add in there somewhere Grassa Bennett's 0.8%. Without doubt, applying the information I've come across over the last few hours, it now looks to me as if Savage + McGilvray + Muirfield Mills, totalling 51.5% (52.3 if you include GB), may well have an outright majority, but could they all co-habit? In particular, if this were to happen there would be the irony of Muirfield Mills having to put huge numbers of Charitable Trust shares handed into their control by Tullochs into coalition with two individuals with whom DFS has had a lot of pretty acrimonious "history" for a number of years. Following on from Davie's recent post, maybe the Supporters' Trust (Caleyjagstogether) 10% voting powers could ultimately hold the balance but, just as philosophers have been asking of God for centuries.... does it exist? (RandB Comeback's post went up while I was typing mine.) Based on a complete lack of evidence over a long period, I had come to the conclusion that it no longer did. Then, a few weeks ago, I thought I saw some kind of statement attributed to it.... but now I'm beginning to wonder if that was just a dream? I may be going on a bit about the CJT but, given that it controls the fourth largest block of votes within the club, this body is incredibly anonymous and thoroughly lacking in activity at a time when it may be obliged to prepare for an important role!
  27. If the home team can't play the match at their home park, surely they should be asked to play it closer to the away team not even further away.
  28. I would like us to take it as seriously as any other competition. Probably our only chance of silverware this season and, were we to reach the final, some reasonable and much needed income to be gained.
  29. If Peterhead is in use, would it not make more sense (especially in regards to the away support) having the game at say Keith or Inverurie?
  30. The power to say no to what exactly? The managers signing targets? I think we'd all be a little concerned if the chairman of the club was involving himself in our transfer dealings and making decisions above the manager as to who was coming in or going out.
  31. Whilst the standard of football wasn't the best, that game was definitely not forgettable. I will remember that game and the whole day for as long as I live.
  32. We have been in the top flight 13 of the last 15 seasons and the other two we won the First Division - being in the top flight is NOT punching above our weight. It's that sort of small-time,defeatist thinking that's lead to where we are now.
  33. 0 points
    I too have had first hand experience of this dreadful illness and have expressed sympathy for all victims and their families. I am all for much more understanding and sympathy for altzheimers and it's many victims both direct and indirect. I feel similarly strongly about other ailments impacting on mental as well as physical health which is precisely why, much as I have sympathy for him now, there is an irony in a man who showed little sympathy or understanding for a vulnerable subordinate suffering from depression now appealing for such understanding himself.
  34. 0 points
    and, as such, subject to precisely the same site rules as everybody else. If anyone believes the post to be a breach of site rules then there is a procedure for reporting it.
  35. We've apparently signed Coll Donaldson. not promising tbh. Maybe a new start is what he needs, let's hope so,
  36. OFW cost us too many points last season and conributed to the position we are in now. If the opposing team got a free kick anywhere near our goal I shut my eyes. Some of the goals he conceded could appear on bloopers of the season. Ridgers can not be any worse than OFW I hope.
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