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Play Off Final 1st Leg

 

It's the second time we have faced St Johnstone in a crucial promotion encounter at the Caledonian Stadium. This game kicks off on Friday night on 20th May at 7:45pm. The last crucial one was back in 2004. It was Saturday 15th of May when Inverness beat St Johnstone 3-1 to top the League on the final day of the season. It took a bit more wrangling to finally clinch promotion after a legal battle, but we got there. 

We are an appealing side: Inverness have lodged an appeal to overturn the red card awarded to Danny Devine by the incompetent Willie Collum for not fouling Jack Hamilton. Danny was sent off after 66 minutes as he challenged for a high ball with Arbroath's Hamilton. TV evidence showed little happened but it was of course the Wilie Collum show. Red card for Devine. We will know on Wednesday if the appeal has been successful. He also gave Wallace Duffy a second yellow. Unfortunately, due to some archaic rule, that means we can't appeal against that one despite it looking like the second tackle appeared to be a clean one. Cheers Willie.

***Latest News*** Devine Intervention by Willie Collum: We will have to do it without Danny Devine as the equally incompetent SFA have upheld his decision to issue a red card. Absolutely total incompetency shown here by the self preservation society.

Helicopter Saturday

CTO Report from 15th May 2004 - 3-1: A triumphant end to a fantastic day, season and decade. The sun shone, the ground was packed, there was tension in the air and the First Division trophy was waiting in a helicopter at Braemar. It just remained for the team to make one last major effort and they did just that. Clyde were leading Brechin 1-0 before the Inverness match even started but this changed nothing as it had always been clear that a win was essential. David Bingham headed a Liam Keogh corner past in the second minute then Craig Nelson tipped over a Stuart Golabek shot from 18 yards. A Bobby Mann header from Keogh's corner scraped past the post. In 14 minutes Barry Wilson raced to stop the ball crossing the bye line but Paul Ritchie touched his cross past. The home pressure finally paid off on the half-hour mark in bizarre circumstances. Stuart McCaffrey's free kick reached David Bingham and his overhead kick fooled Nelson; the keeper backtracked but could only help the ball into the net. This was what most of the crowd wanted and they went wild. It was back to earth just before half-time when Keigan Parker raced through and hammered an equaliser past Mark Brown from long range. Seconds later Wilson scored with a low shot but the offside flag was up. Steve Hislop came on for Keogh in the second half. Saints began to play some good football, particularly through Parker and Simon Donnelly, but ICT always looked more like scoring. In 56 minutes Bingham's through ball set Wilson heading for goal and, as he waited for the moment to shoot, Nelson brought him down. The penalty was a certainty and the pressure was all on Barry Wilson. A trademark short run and it was 2-1. A male streaker joined in the celebrations and was promptly evicted. As the excitement reached fever pitch all that was needed was a third goal to calm the nerves. Roy McBain tried to provide it in 64 minutes with a neat lob over Nelson but it cleared the bar. Bingham headed a Wilson corner goalwards in 71 minutes but Mark Reilly hit it off the line then Stuart McCaffrey headed wide. A third goal came in 76 minutes and fittingly it was from Paul Ritchie who was playing his last game for the club. Wilson took a corner from the left and Ritchie stooped low to head home his 63rd goal in three years. The title was a certainty and the final period was all about waiting for the whistle. Wilson shot wide in 86 minutes then the ball spent vital minutes deep in the Saints half and around the corner flag. The final whistle went, the crowd invaded the pitch, the cup arrived by helicopter, Bobby Mann stepped up to receive the trophy from Lord Macfarlane and the whole of Inverness went ballistic. Now for the SPL........maybe. (Crowd: 6092)

Venue H2H (all comps) Pld Won Drn Lst For Agst + / -
Home 18 10 3 5 21 15 +6
Away 16 3 4 9 10 20 -10
Neutral 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 34 13 7 14 31 35 -4

As the stats show, the home sides have had the better of these encounters over the years. However, it's over five years since we last played the Perth side and on that occasion we lost 3-0 at home as relegation loomed large.

CTO SUMMARY APRIL 8TH 2017: On the brink:  Inverness are on the brink of relegation after a shambolic, hapless and gutless performance against a mediocre St Johnstone, who themselves were without two of their stalwart players after an altercation last week. As it turned out, it mattered not a jot as we slumped to an embarrassing 0 - 3 defeat after Larnell Cole was sent off for dissent. We crumbled thereafter. 😠

Here's how we got here

 

 

Latest Team News

Shane Sutherland, Tom Walsh and Roddy MacGregor are all out through injury, although rumours of a face mask for Roddy are circulating. If he get's one, let's make it a Lionel Messi mask. Time will tell. Wallace Duffy misses this one after his two yellow cards. Danny Devine ????? Wait for the Wednesday reveal :redcard: or :banana:

There will be a lot of tired bodies both physically and mentally after that emotionally draining shoot-out win at Gayfield. Our bench was thin prior to that game, it will have less bums on it now. Duffy will miss this game but might return for the second leg at Perth if its only a one match suspension. Scott Allardice has been on the bench in the previous play-off games, however after his long lay off, i wonder if we are still protecting him, or best scenario, keeping him fresh for these final two games. What a bonus that would be. To be honest, should we be competitive after all this, it really would be a Roy of the Rovers finale to a rollercoaster of a season.

St Johnstone limbered up for this game by resting more than half of their regulars in an abject 4-0 defeat at Easter Road. I wouldn't read too much into that result as they were obviously preparing themselves for the play-off finals which are infinitely more important than a dead end of season game against Hibs that would have gained them nothing. So, no fresh injury worries for Callum Davidson to worry about, and know doubt a full bench to fall back on.

We will be able to renew acquaintances with a couple of former players in defenders Jamie McCart and Shaun Rooney who had cult status at the Caledonian Stadium with his marauding Ross Tokely style runs down the right flank. In Zander Clark they have an imposing presence and top quality keeper. Scoring goals has been their downfall this season, but let's not forget they have been playing in a League a notch or two above where we are at just now. They also have the experienced Nadir Ciftci  in the squad who has a trick or two up his sleeve. Michael O'Halloran and Liam Craig will also add more experience and quality to the side, so plenty of options for the Super J's.

Having watched our performances in the Play-Off semi's, I doubt Callum Davidson will have lost much sleep. However, we are at our best when the odds are stacked against us. :ictscarf:

 

 

 

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  • Eagle4Caley
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    Wow...what a game! After that first 45minutes, when we were lucky to not be 4 or 5 nil down. As the saying goes though you have to score when you're dominating the game, and St Johnstone didn't score

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    Disagree.  It is the perfect follow-up to what I had said without having read the club's statement: "Every player, manager, coach and everyone else associated with a club tries their hardest and does

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Totally agree with RIG. I realise the need for promotion but much prefer the vibe in the Championship. Rooneys celebration when scoring at Caley Stadium was muted and respectful I thought..............no need to keep that up for ever. From somewhere else......is Todorov a decent shout?

What a rollercoaster of a season. A great start, albeit a bit flattering, a dire middle, then a great finish to make the play offs.

Over the two legs, St Johnstone deserved to win, but it could have been so different had we not lost the second goal or if Doran had pulled one back.

I wanted us to win and get promoted but, being totally honest, I was concerned that we could be the whipping boys next season unless we got our recruitment spot on.

I hope we can use the last two months as a foundation for next season, and strengthen our squad as well as replacing those key players we will be losing (eg Broadfoot, McAlear).

Priorities for me are full backs and creative players who can provide the assists for Mckay and Samuels.

We have a decent nucleus with guys like Ridgers, Deas, Harper, Carson, Allardice, MacGregor, Walsh, Samuels and Mckay under contract, but we may see bids for Deas and MacGregor. If Devine is likely to sign a new contract, that is great news.

We also have promising youngsters in Hyde and Lewis Nicolson who should be ready for more exposure. Both have looked to have potential this season. Hopefully we have them tied up for next season too.

We probably did as well this season as we could have expected, let’s go one better next year (and a cup run of two would be good too).

Thanks to the CTO team for the previews and reports each week: always a great read. 

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3 hours ago, Naelifts said:

Totally agree with RIG. I realise the need for promotion but much prefer the vibe in the Championship. Rooneys celebration when scoring at Caley Stadium was muted and respectful I thought..............no need to keep that up for ever. From somewhere else......is Todorov a decent shout?

Yes I thought his celebration on Friday was low key and assumed it was out of some measure of respect for a former club. The boos he seemed to get last night with every touch of the ball may have encouraged him somewhat to let himself go a bit more. 

4 hours ago, cif73 said:

Yes I thought his celebration on Friday was low key and assumed it was out of some measure of respect for a former club. The boos he seemed to get last night with every touch of the ball may have encouraged him somewhat to let himself go a bit more. 

I think we all needed some boos after the game!!!

Rooney was largely muted in his celebrations on Friday but let himself go a lot more on Monday. I've no issue with that in the slightest. Whilst it's a bit like seeing your ex with a new partner you have to deal with it and get on with things.  

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There was however a bizarre moment where he came over to the ICT supporters after the game almost to apologise or wish us well or something (perhaps encouraged by a couple of fans in the crowd) but a lot of folk weren't happy with this and, after a lot of abuse, Rooney was ultimately ushered away by a Saint Johnstone club official.

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20 hours ago, old caley girl said:

That group is actually quite menacing? All dressed in black with 2 of the flares ( as you can see actual flares) thrown at stewards. Then covered up their faces with the flags pretty sharpish too. 

I don't know if it was the fact this game felt so much but the normal friendly ST J/ICT atmosphere wasn't there. 

 

18 hours ago, Kingsmills said:

Absolute idiots. Silly young boys demonstrating that they have a lot of growing up still to do.

If I was a St Johnstone fan I would have been cringing with embarrassment at these thoroughly juvenile but still, for some, very intimidating antics.

Those young FCU lads were my kids' highlight of the whole evening! 🤣 They were fascinated by them and daughter hasn't stopped watching clips of them on the the youtube footy adventures channel since ! 😆

I think anything that adds to the atmosphere and encourages more young fans to attend is a good thing.

22 minutes ago, RednBlackComeback said:

 

Those young FCU lads were my kids' highlight of the whole evening! 🤣 They were fascinated by them and daughter hasn't stopped watching clips of them on the the youtube footy adventures channel since ! 😆

I think anything that adds to the atmosphere and encourages more young fans to attend is a good thing.

I have to disagree. Anything that leaves a significant number of other fans uncomfortable or even frightened can never be a good thing.

Football needs to be welcoming and inclusive to all and conduct like this, even if it does entertain and amuse some people ought not to be condoned.

16 minutes ago, Kingsmills said:

I have to disagree. Anything that leaves a significant number of other fans uncomfortable or even frightened can never be a good thing.

Football needs to be welcoming and inclusive to all and conduct like this, even if it does entertain and amuse some people ought not to be condoned.

It's not going away any time soon. Maybe football needs to try to find a way to accommodate fans who enjoy this part of supporting their team and work with all supporters to allow displays to be performed at games that keeps everyone safe and happy?

It's only seen as frightening and uncomfortable because that's the image we portray of them in the media and via fuddy duddies on forums.

Create the space to allow it in a manner which poses no risk to others and let them get on with it; after all, it's not like our stadiums are so rammed we can't accommodate it.  I think it was Scotty I've seen talking about his happening in Canada?

If we could also have mixed family areas, that would be great.  Stop telling each new generation they are animals that can't be trusted to sit next to opposition fans.  People aren't born to misbehave, but if we keep telling them that it's what is expected, they will soon conform.  Let's put wheels in motion on all sides to put an end to that in football and enjoy mixed crowds like we see in so many other sports around the world.

 

2 hours ago, STFU said:

It's only seen as frightening and uncomfortable because that's the image we portray of them in the media and via fuddy duddies on forums.

Create the space to allow it in a manner which poses no risk to others and let them get on with it; after all, it's not like our stadiums are so rammed we can't accommodate it.  I think it was Scotty I've seen talking about his happening in Canada?

If we could also have mixed family areas, that would be great.  Stop telling each new generation they are animals that can't be trusted to sit next to opposition fans.  People aren't born to misbehave, but if we keep telling them that it's what is expected, they will soon conform.  Let's put wheels in motion on all sides to put an end to that in football and enjoy mixed crowds like we see in so many other sports around the world.

 

Good post.  I'm not a fan of flares myself but they are commonplace on the continent and rarely cause a problem.  Problems happen when we get too restrictive on what folk can do and and what you can't.  Flares can cause injury if thrown and can disrupt games if thrown onto the pitch. If you ban flares, then when people defy the ban by lighting flares then they are more likely to also throw them - it minimises the chance of them being caught literally red handed.  Rather than ban flares, far better to allow them in specific areas of the ground on the understanding that they won't be thrown.

I like the idea of mixed family areas as a first step to having mixed crowds as they do in other sports.  As many rugby fans will tell you, the craic with fans of the opposing team can add significantly to the enjoyment of the occasion.

We are all different and like different ways of watching the game.  Grounds should cater to that, but with the best will in the world, clubs are constrained by the legislation.  Obviously the Hillsborough tragedy was awful and avoiding any chance of a repetition was a priority, but I think the legislative response has been OTT. It has resulted in a one size fits all type of accommodation which has far less appeal to youngsters than the large open terracing of old.  Football at our level needs to attract the younger generation if it is to survive.  Mixed family area would be a great way to introduce the younger children to the game.  Open terracing would allow the older children to move about a bit and have a bit of fun and socialising meaning they would enjoy the occasion even when the game was rubbish.  I'd go for the open terracing myself as long as I had a safety railing to lean against and a roof over my head.  That can all be done and be done safely.  It is well beyond time that the powers that be listened to what the fans want and got the legislation changed.

5 hours ago, RiG said:

It's not going away any time soon. Maybe football needs to try to find a way to accommodate fans who enjoy this part of supporting their team and work with all supporters to allow displays to be performed at games that keeps everyone safe and happy?

I'm happy to discuss smoke bomb areas but not a fan of flares especially given 2 of them were chucked at the stewards. Like throwing fire at them? 

1 hour ago, DoofersDad said:

Good post.  I'm not a fan of flares myself but they are commonplace on the continent and rarely cause a problem.  Problems happen when we get too restrictive on what folk can do and and what you can't.  Flares can cause injury if thrown and can disrupt games if thrown onto the pitch. If you ban flares, then when people defy the ban by lighting flares then they are more likely to also throw them - it minimises the chance of them being caught literally red handed.  Rather than ban flares, far better to allow them in specific areas of the ground on the understanding that they won't be thrown.

I like the idea of mixed family areas as a first step to having mixed crowds as they do in other sports.  As many rugby fans will tell you, the craic with fans of the opposing team can add significantly to the enjoyment of the occasion.

We are all different and like different ways of watching the game.  Grounds should cater to that, but with the best will in the world, clubs are constrained by the legislation.  Obviously the Hillsborough tragedy was awful and avoiding any chance of a repetition was a priority, but I think the legislative response has been OTT. It has resulted in a one size fits all type of accommodation which has far less appeal to youngsters than the large open terracing of old.  Football at our level needs to attract the younger generation if it is to survive.  Mixed family area would be a great way to introduce the younger children to the game.  Open terracing would allow the older children to move about a bit and have a bit of fun and socialising meaning they would enjoy the occasion even when the game was rubbish.  I'd go for the open terracing myself as long as I had a safety railing to lean against and a roof over my head.  That can all be done and be done safely.  It is well beyond time that the powers that be listened to what the fans want and got the legislation changed.

I used to bring flares into football grounds week after week in the 1970s but, as far as I am aware  the only crimes I was comiting were against fashion and good taste.

Back in the days when the circumstances of my trouser bottoms was twice that of my waist in stark contrast to the relative proportions these days.

7 hours ago, STFU said:

Create the space to allow it in a manner which poses no risk to others and let them get on with it; after all, it's not like our stadiums are so rammed we can't accommodate it.  I think it was Scotty I've seen talking about his happening in Canada?

Yup. Toronto FC faced the same problems in the early years ... our support was young and rambunctious and flares were often smuggled into the stadium. These were road flares so not safe at all, burning at some ridiculous temperature and then having to be thrown onto the pitch (a plastic one in our first season, replaced by grass in season 2 thankfully) when they literally got too hot to handle. Lots of reports of people getting scalding residue on them as they flew through the air (the flares not the fans) and on one occasion it burned a hole in a small section of the plastic pitch that cost about $40K to replace. It was also very acrid and horrible in your lungs and I do recall having to go for a few glasses of medicinal whisky on one particular occasion. 

Took a few years, but in the end the club actually got regular communication going with all supporters groups in our 'south end' and established a lot of common sense stuff including the use of flags, smoke, drums, etc. There are signs around now that note its a supporters section so if you are offended by standing or flags or other things that might affect your viewing, then its too bad! The club also paid for nominated people to go on H&S course so they could safely let off controlled smoke (looks like flares but not burning at such a high temperature or carbonising your lungs). Safety protocols are in place, sand is present for extinguishing etc and the 'flares' are approved for use in this environment.  

Kenny Cameron did try to get the stewards to ease up on the younger fans a few years ago, but I think there is a real chance of sustaining that if we encourage the club to work with the section 94 guys to enhance the atmosphere ... but its a two-way street. As one specific supporters group at TFC found out, if you take a mile when offered an inch then you face consequences. They broke the agreed rules a fair bit and got a lot of repercussions that somewhat filtered to the other groups but overall amongst the club and most groups its a pretty healthy relationship. They even let the groups manage the season ticket relocations in our sections, ensuring that the ticket holders are genuine members of each supporters group before approving the request ...   

8 hours ago, STFU said:

It's only seen as frightening and uncomfortable because that's the image we portray of them in the media and via fuddy duddies on forums.

Create the space to allow it in a manner which poses no risk to others and let them get on with it; after all, it's not like our stadiums are so rammed we can't accommodate it.  I think it was Scotty I've seen talking about his happening in Canada?

If we could also have mixed family areas, that would be great.  Stop telling each new generation they are animals that can't be trusted to sit next to opposition fans.  People aren't born to misbehave, but if we keep telling them that it's what is expected, they will soon conform.  Let's put wheels in motion on all sides to put an end to that in football and enjoy mixed crowds like we see in so many other sports around the world.

 

I say, I couldn't possibly sit amongst R##s C##nty fans. Them clapping with their six fingered webbed hands would deafen me with 5 minutes.

Eh what? 🧐 

17 hours ago, CaleyCanary said:

Flares are an absolute bugger if you have asthma and are downwind of them

Do you mean smoke bombs or flares?

4 hours ago, old caley girl said:

Do you mean smoke bombs or flares?

What’s the difference?  I know that when one of whichever it was was set off downwind of us, it was so choking we used our  face masks to breathe until it cleared.  Not nice for anyone with a bad chest or asthma.  

56 minutes ago, lizi said:

What’s the difference?  I know that when one of whichever it was was set off downwind of us, it was so choking we used our  face masks to breathe until it cleared.  Not nice for anyone with a bad chest or asthma.  

Both are a menace.

5 minutes ago, Kingsmills said:

Both are a menace.

Maybe? But the youngsters do seem to be winning the smoke bomb war and want their football different to us? I do think a conversation could be had to see if anyway to accommodate safely in a certain area? 

1 hour ago, lizi said:

What’s the difference?  I know that when one of whichever it was was set off downwind of us, it was so choking we used our  face masks to breathe until it cleared.  Not nice for anyone with a bad chest or asthma.  

The difference is a naked flame!! Saw 2 flares chucked at stewards by St J fans. No way they should be allowed imho

1 hour ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

Flares are an absolute bugger if you have short legs and minimal platform shoes.

That'll be you then 🤣🤣🤣🤣

3 minutes ago, old caley girl said:

The difference is a naked flame!! Saw 2 flares chucked at stewards by St J fans. No way they should be allowed imho

Totally agree with the dangerous aspect of the flares but the effects of the smoke are the same from both - hard to see how nominating a certain area can help with this as you're at the mercy of the prevailing wind. Just can't see the fascination with them, many hundreds of twirly scarfs are more my thing.

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