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CJT bus at 1700 on Saturday

Hi, Cambridge fan here and just want to say you are getting one heck of a player and a top fella. The press are listing Liam as an attacking midfielder but he has played just about every position for us. I'd say his best position is a deep lying centre mid or centre def. As his record shows he isn't a massive goal scorer but he has great creativity can certainly pick a pass to unlock a defence. Not afraid to get stuck in and mix it when he has to but certainly not dirty in anyway. He's tall and we regularly put him up against tall strikers when defending corners or goal kicks and he won a LOT more than he lost. He's got a good engine and as you've seen from the video has a shot on him like a kicking horse. We really don't understand the logic in letting him go. He's been a stalwart for the last 2-3 years but a new manager has come in and bombed him & a few others straight out of the team without ever looking at them in a game and replaced them with a number of untried premier league youngsters, none of whom are setting the world alight. One thing you really will get from him is a real connection with the fans, he'll always be happy to have photos taken or sign autographs. Any kids that ask him will get asked if they play, what position etc and he gives a real sense of being genuinely interested in their answers. I hope you enjoy him, he will always get a fantastic welcome from us for the opening goal in our playoff final at Wembley in 2014 that ended 9 years of non league wilderness. Keep an eye out for a U's shirt or two popping up as I've already heard of several people planning a weekend away.

Apparently it was in the contract small print that the £200,000 release clause could only be validly triggered by an offer from a club that has won the Scottish Cup within the last 25 years.

Gellions Bus at 1700 on Saturday

Are they running a bus?

Ok, so I've just logged in and caught up on this thread. I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed in a lot of the posts. First of all let me make it clear, I wasn't at the game in Stirling, nor was I at the CJT board meeting which followed as I was away, so I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of what happened and who said what. What I will say is that having a little information I am really saddened by some of the posts in this thread. Not even the posts of the young people who feel they did nothing wrong, but the people who jumped on the bandwagon and should have known better. Do you for 1 minute believe that the CJT board members in attendance would have a problem with singing and having fun? These people are comitted to home and away games and much more while holding down full time jobs, family comittments etc into the bargain. I know a few of them who are really hurt by many of the comments. We are arranging to meet the boys on Friday night to discuss the events of the day and identify what is and isn't acceptable behaviour. We are also happy to hear from them and what concerns and points they would like to raise. Please note that this meeting is primarily for those who travelled on the bus to Stirling I would hope to be able to post a better update when I am more aware of the facts and what the general feeling is on Friday night. I hope that some of the people with strong feeling will consider standing for election at the upcoming AGM.

I don't think anybody has said it yet, but well done to ICT for resisting the temptation to let go of a key player in order to bring in a hefty sum of cash. Better still, just as they stood firm when Dundee Utd wanted our manager, it was good to see our Board fight tooth and nail (with perhaps a bit of hair pulling too) to resolutely fend off the raiders from the east by whatever means were possible. It does no harm to send out a signal that we aren't the pushovers we perhaps once were.

What I see from the various quotes is not that it was a 'representative of ICT' but an 'agent the club have dealt with'. Possibly an agent that represents a number of ICT players. What it all suggests to me is that there is a play on words here and that an agent, and I've no idea who this one is, has seen a few bob in front of his eyes and tipped Aberdeen to the release clause. I further think Aberdeen held of till the last minute and made the £200k offer which all seemed above board and, possibly ICT tried for a bit more whereby someone at Aberdeen reminded us of the release clause so our people pulled the deal. If clause was confidential then it should not have been known. I think now that we should ask SFA to carry out an enquiry into what went on. I further think Aberdeen were at an unfair advantage in any negotiations by knowing the trigger figure. It is not good for clubs to fall out, no matter who they are, as its important that each will help the other out in times of need. Times like trying to push through some league changes or needing backing for some such or the other so I hope this situation is resolved amicably.

Next week the Tansey about turn.

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Wifie first right wants to be on the gellions bus!

Can I suggest that ALL of our players would rather be elsewhere! The difference is that most of them don't really have a choice of anything better or more lucrative than ICT at this particular moment in time, whereas Tansey believed he did. I applaud him for having maintained thus far a dignified silence on all this, (in public, at least) and hope he has the drive and professionalism to keep giving his all. He may well feel some bitterness just now towards the ICT board - but surely not towards Yogi, his teammates or the fans. In addition, he should perhaps be having some strong words with his agent who at the end of the day, agreed to a release clause that wasn't adequately worded to secure Tansey the move his performances had earned.

Or has he? The Courier are suggesting it's not a done deal yet. Bizarre that there's been no announcement, even on Twitter from the club on these/this new signing. They're quick trying to flog mugs and engage in other 'banter' though....

My son was meant to be on bus 3 but slept in. We would be very interested in joining gellions buses and were hoping to go to Motherwell but I'm not sure what to make of this. It's a thankless task organising things but I know a lot of the young fans fairly well and consider them committed and a real asset to the club. £20 for a bus add ticket and food etc and it's a pretty expensive and long day so fair play to them for supporting their local team. This will hopefully all come to an amicable and successful conclusion.

As a well educated man, I'm sure you are well aware that singing on a supporters bus would hardly constitute a bus suspension.

McInnes acting with integrity.... I'll take that with a pinch of salt given the rumours that fly round about him and his players wives! Fact of the matter is you can come in banging on about release clause being mentioned by ICT source, Tanseys agent should be ashamed of himself, he is not an ICT source and I would imagine has broken a confidentiality clause! And so should Aberdeen, if you knew weeks ago, come in for him then, don't wait till the last day of the window trying to shaft us out of getting time to get a replacement in! Only club to blame here are Aberdeen, conduct your business earlier in the window and don't try to shaft clubs on deadline day. Aberdeen are quick to mouth off about the old firm stealing talent.... Well you've just turned into the third wheel of that, how about getting a better scouting network set up than constantly coming in and taking our best players!

As a born and bred Highlander, whos perspective has somewhat changed (and softened) a lot this past few years...i kinda find myself hoping County win the final and take the Cup back up north with them. BUT, i aslo happen to fully understand Old Caley Girl and others view, about County being a rival when it comes to being a hound for the locals pound. But...at the end of the day.....when it all boils down....its a sport..and really not worth investing any ill will towards anyone. Enough of that and worse, going on elsewhere.

There are parallels with the Hughes episode earlier in the season. JH was denied permission to speak to Dundee United - but that's all it was - an opportunity to 'see what they had to offer'. He hadn't cleared-out his desk. But, Tansey's situation is more difficult. If reports are to be believed, he and his agent were at Pittodrie discussing terms...he may even have said his 'goodbyes' to his Inverness colleagues - it puts him in an unenviable position and if this were politics, a 'lame duck'. It's like reading the paper on your lunch-break and seeing your lottery numbers have come up, then immediately discharging the fire-extinguisher all over your boss and his office before heading home with a defiant GIRFUY...only to discover you'd not put your ticket on! Obviously a ridiculous example, but when you've 'shown your hand' it's very difficult to integrate back in, as if nothing's happened.

Total agreement with Yngwie. Story leaves me with some questions. 1. Was Tansey and/or his agent approached by Aberdeen without ICT permission? 2. How did Aberdeen know of any release clause in contract? 3. What gives the like of Aberdeen and Dundee United, who may be bigger but no more successful in recent times, the right to think they can ride roughshod over teams like us? Many of the comments on here and, indeed, in the press are nothing more than hearsay and speculation. There hasn't been time since the window closed to allow any official statement from either team so maybe we should take the whole story with a pinch of salt at this stage.

Fon Williams Warren Mutumbo Vigurs Williams Hughes Polworth Draper Tansey Williams Storey

There is no Glasgow bias. It's Old Firm bias. People in the Greater Glasgow area who support Thistle, St Mirren, Morton, Motherwell, Albion Rovers, Pollok, and, er, Kirkie Rob Roy detest the Old Firm as much as anyone in the Highlands. Ah, the Highlands - I remember when we played Rangers at TCS the big banner among the visiting hordes was from 'Lewis RSC'. There are probably more Old Firm supporters (albeit many of them watching all their fitba on the telly) in Inverness than support ICT. Whether you're an ICT supporter, Ross county, St Johnstone, Montrose, Raith, Hamilton Accies, Ayr United, whatever, you'll see local folk wandering about in rangers and Celtic jerseys, or buses piling off to Parkhead or Aye Broke on match days. I don't think most journos are necessarily from Glasgow. Deffo many of them don't live there. But they love the Old Firm. Not because they are based in Glasgow. But because they're so BIIIIIIG.

If ICT had acted illegally to stop Tansey speaking to them then no personal terms could have been agreed and Aberdeen had no agreement with the player. However if Aberdeen had already agreed terms then that is tapping a player which is illegal. Aberdeen required ICTs agreement to speak to the player yet they appear to agree that they spoke to the player meaning they did so without the proper consent .Maybe they should be careful what they wish for in asking for an inquiry doth they not protest too much!!!

Higdon, please.

It must have been a crazy day for Tansey yesterday and i do feel sorry for him, he may well currently be very annoyed with certain people within the club for denying him the opportunity to move to Aberdeen. But he is a footballer, and he will want to play football. If he doesnt put in a shift in training, he wont be on the pitch on a saturday. If he doesnt play games, he wont be happy, but also he limits his chances of a move in summer, as it stands he has another year and a half here unless some club want to pay for his clause (the correct amount). His only option really, however pissed off or not, is too knuckle down, impress potential suitors and he can leave in a few months. If he sulks, hes playing a very dangerous game for his own short career. If Aberdeen had come in with the bid a day earlier, they would probably have Tansey just now, but they dont.

I had the same thought about Robbie Williams singing.

Yes, well done to the club in not letting themselves be 'rolled over' by Aberdeen if the proposed deal was not right for us. Doubt if we will ever know for sure whether it was just the 'release clause' issue or not. There have been hints by other posters that Tansey will now be thoroughly unsettled, and even that he might not play for us again. I would be amazed if his own professional pride let the situation degenerate to that level. He is not the first footballer, nor will he be the last, to fail to get a move to a bigger club when negotiations between the clubs come to stalemate (the John Stones Everton/Chelsea saga as an example). Surely Tansey will just buckle down, play to his best ability and make himself an even better prospect for bigger clubs in the summer. Good luck to him.

So, we now have: Tansey (if he ever plays for us again), Polworth, Draper, Wedderburn, Vincent, Vigurs, Williams (1), Williams (2), Mutombo, Roberts (at least) to choose from in midfield, but only 4 fit defenders and one fit striker. Welcome, Ryan, but forgive me for not understanding our signing policy!

I guess you think you're funny but you just bore everyone else here senseless. Boring and predictable.

What about using it to get through the turnstiles with a smoke bomb ?

The other new guy signed in the transfer window is 23 y.o. attacking mid Liam Hughes from Cambridge United. A quick search on YouTube revealed this free kick. Couldn't find any footage of him passing etc. He scored 13 in 160 for Cambridge and another 3 in 3 games out on loan to Corby Town.

Evening all, hope you're well. Just popped on to see if any of you are in the know as to why Tansey didn't sign? Just watched our manager on RedTV there, spoke openly about of all this, saying he can't understand why Tansey isn't an Aberdeen player, said he spoke to John Hughes this morning, who's in agreement that Aberdeen acted with integrity and never went behind anyone's back etc.... He said we definitely offered 200k up front, which activated Tansey's release clause, the player himself was eager to join, but something prevented the actual deal going through. There isn't an issue with the release clause being triggered or made public, as it was an agent that ICT as a club use in general, that made us aware of it. I'm not here to give abuse or receive it guys, I completely understand your anger at the whole issue, given that we've signed a few players from yourselves in recent times, but surely you agree that this whole saga has been rather bizarre.

You'd think it was 'semtex' with the furore it's caused

Agree with most of that. I'd be interested to know why Aberdeen were meeting with the agent of one of our players and discussing transfer fees and release clauses when they had made no formal approach to us. EDIT: Don't know why some posters chose to be wankerish to a fan of another team. Seemed a fairly innocent question albeit at a time when peoples backs might be up.

Fair point Alex MacLeod, and I agree with your last sentence entirely. I'll leave you all in peace now, apologies if I've ruffled anyone's feathers, was never my intention. Very best of luck for the rest of the season guys & girls (Except when playing us) and hope you all have a good night.

I would certainly like to hear from ICT their perspective on the Tanseygate issue! Nowt but silence... I would also like to hear why we could not find a striker, was Yogi actually trying to sign one or was he hoping for one of the new signings to transform into one?

Always hard to tell from these videos but looks a decent player, looks like he can spot an early pass and open things up which to be honest we've been lacking a bit this year. Was he spraying passes with both feet as well? If so I'm impressed!

This photo could actually have been taken on the Caleyjagsforever bus on their way to Mosset Park,Forres in a pre season friendly a couple of years ago The very same day they were baking cakes on the bus prior to the game and that folks is a true story Dougal

I can see where you're coming from Alex but the sticking point is solely in the release clause. In the situation you've told me above, I have it in writing that if a potential buyer meets my valuation of the car, then I have to accept the offer regardless if it leaves me out of pocket or not. What I also don't understand is, why is a release clause in a contract if other clubs aren't allowed to know about it? Seems a bit odd if you ask me.

You start by saying there's no sign of a striker to be signed and then mention we sign two strikers.... We didn't lose anyone in the window, signed 3, possibly 4 (yet to be confirmed) and you think that's a disgrace?

If that's true then it suggests Tansey was keen on the move. Never mind tensions between the clubs, I doubt it will do much for togetherness in the dressing room here.

Thanks, Ryan. Welcome to the club!

This precisely the kind of attitude that so antagonises so many people. You state you weren't there so can't possibly comment and then in the next breath find the youngsters guilty of behaviour justifying a ban simply on the basis of the fact that you know people in CJT! I wasn't there either, but what I know is that the OP raised a very serious issue and that nobody from CJT has as yet replied. That is disappointing, shall we say. I also know that people should only be banned if they personally were doing something which they had repeatedly been told not to do, or if they did something which was so serious it justified an immediate ban. For a ban to be justified it would seem to me that something serious would have to have happened, the nature of which we are currently in ignorance. It really is important that someone from CJT makes a statement about how many people they are banning from the buses and the reason for that. As a club we desperately need more youngsters coming to games and making a noise and we need the club establishment to work with them and encourage their presence. On the face of it, the reported ban will have the opposite effect and the silence from CJT is clearly not helping.

On the face of it banning 30 people with one stroke seems like overkill but it is clear there are two sides to every story .... we haven't fully heard one side let alone both. There are a number of people here who likely do know the reasons, both from CJT and from the group that were present on the bus. The floor is open for them to tell the story if they wish. HOWEVER - The floor is not open to call people on either side of the debate arseholes, perverts or anything else derogatory or defamatory. That crosses the line of our rules on this site and we have hidden a couple of offending posts. Lets not go down the road of having to moderate or close this thread please ...... I know its emotive for many people, but it can be emotive without being abusive !

I'd go as far as saying County have as many born and bred Invernessians fans as we do, they even have an official supporters club in the city run from the Tarry Isle bar I think Whether it being clever marketing or other factors they have recruited wisely and steadily since gaining access to the senior leagues Ross-shire,Sutherland,Caithness,Skye,Western Isles and certain parts of Inverness have embraced County whereas we have struggled as we seem to be playing second fiddle Inverness have also active supporters clubs from Celtic,Rangers,Aberdeen,Hearts,Dundee,Dundee Utd,St Johnstone and even Man Utd in the city When you also throw in the Merkinch/Clach fans who openly despise us it's no wonder we struggle to get fans with an Inverness postcode We have been very fortunate in the last two decades that Inverness has grown dramatically because the influx of incomers to the city has swelled our numbers Dougal

There seems to be a lot of unjustified bashing at CJT in this thread which is unwarranted. I know the guys that run CJT buses personally and they put in a tremendous amount time and effort alongside their full time jobs. I wasn't at the Stirling Albion game, so I couldn't possibly comment on the actions of the lads that have been 'banned'. In my opinion, the guys that have been banned wouldn't have been without good reasoning.

So how do they keep order at whichever school in Easter Ross you attend?

Would this post not be more relevant to the main ICT thread, as it relates directly to the club and supporters? Re the ban, I would want to know much more about how it came about, and both sides of the argument before commenting on whether it is justified or not. I sat in the next section to the youngsters at the Stirling away game referred to, at least in the first half, before they all moved down to the other end after half time. And a truly fine job they made by singing their hearts out right through the game. As the lad says, undoubtedly it helps create a good atmosphere, and all credit to them for that. Whether I'd like to be in the limited space of a bus for three hours while they were singing with that intensity is another matter. Maybe there is a time and a place for everything?

In my view, CJT and Ross County have acted prematurely by supporting any and all sanctions (as they seem to in the joint statement that prompted this thread) and a great deal of the criticism levelled in this forum is little more than dressed up prejudice regarding young people. Sentiments that have gone without comment, except from Renegade, such as “at least they are at the head of the queue when collecting Darwin awards” are as humourless as they are tasteless. For those of you unaware, the sentiment expressed is that at least these people will kill themselves sooner than most. Nutty and discredited indeed. Scottish football supporters are already subject to surveillance from several sources and there is legitimate concern that they are being treated in a potentially criminalising way that non-football attending citizens are not. Clubs use CCTV to monitor crowds from a control room at every ground and have the necessary mugshots of persons banned to hand. The operators are in radio contact with stewards and police if their intervention is necessary. FoCUS, the national football intelligence unit, can be regularly seen filming fans. It is funded by Scottish Government to obtain the type of intelligence that the SFA appear to be saying will cost a further £4 million to refine and implement. To what end? Looking for smoke bombs? The people being subject to this are customers, not potential law-breakers. It is a palpable waste of money when the means to control crowds are already in place and it will do nothing to address the oft observed reluctance of stewards and police to intervene, especially when large travelling crowds are in attendance and “pyro” becomes more likely to be used. What will happen is that someone, more readily identifiable from a smaller support, will be chosen as an example. That puts ours and County’s fans at greater risk of prosecution than, say, those supporting a Glasgow team (who actually have a history of using flares) and that’s not justice. What is clear is that the use of these things is something that some younger supporters (customers like all of us) see as either a minor issue at football, or as something that they actually want. Contrary to what has been said, there is a place for these people in football. Why? For years, the media has lauded the “atmosphere” at (for instance) Bundesliga grounds as laudable, desirable and something to be aspired to and that appears to be what these kids have bought into. Nothing more. BT Sport, for instance, have published their 10 best “tifo’s” (fan displays). So have the Guardian. The Daily Record thought CSKA Sofia fans “astonishing” and awarded them a “gold star” for their star wars display whilst deploring anything similar in Scotland. The use of “pyro” is integral to these displays, so it gets copied and the media reinforce that by their double standards in reporting the issue. So kids keep doing it. It’s nothing more sinister, irresponsible or “stupid” than that. I’d better make it clear now that I personally don’t want to see “pyro” at our games. I don’t want to watch clouds of smoke, I want to watch the game. I certainly don’t want to watch younger fans get themselves into conflict and criminalise themselves. Above all I don’t want people to get hurt. What needs to happen is behavioural change by peer pressure from fans organisations to stop our fans from using smoke bombs. This will only be done by engaging, not ostracising them. If people don’t change, there’s a law in place for the authorities to use and it must not be broken. Let’s just not get carried away.

We can't afford the luxury of continuing to play a player until they become good. Any flashes from Lopez were absolutely minimal and he always looked far too slow and cumbersome, frequently displaying a shocking lack of control of the football and turning over possession time after time. We cannot persevere with a player who was performing as poorly as that in the hope they suddenly become good. I'm sure he's a lovely guy, gobbing on fellow players aside, but the fact is that he was a very poor player and well out of his depth. You need only to look at how quickly Miles Storey has adapted to things to see when a player really does show flashes of talent.