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  1. I was a season ticket holder until I moved to Spain 5 years ago, and I was one who said would buy a ticket if The management made the correct decision re the Rangers affair. Despite the fact that due to my location I will not be able to make any games I have today purchased a Family Season ticket and I am in discussion with the Club to work out some way of making sure that these seats are allocated to someone different each week (possibly a competition) and hopefully that will encourage some of them to come back
    7 points
  2. We also still have (literally) hundreds of people who said they would buy season tickets if the club voted "no" to NewCo who haven't honoured that promise. Some of these were existing season ticket holders, others were people who promised to up their support if the club did the "right" thing. That alone annoys the hell out of me because there's people who work damn hard to ensure the fans have a voice and get listened too, and when the club do decide to give credence to their thoughts, views and opinions then these people (fans?) let everyone down by not following through. Unfortunately the DPA prevents these people from being named or you can be sure I'd have a wall of shame that listed them all.
    6 points
  3. Right lad, stand up now for the press. Oh, you are standing up!
    2 points
  4. I wrote to the club about the newco situation and renewed my season ticket shortly after the club announced their stance. I wouldn't like to have not putting my money where my mouth was on my conscience. I know that I will struggle to get to enough games to justify it this year (although I will try) due to being away at uni and working most weekends. Last week I was speaking to someone who had a season ticket from the beginning who had not renewed due to the direction he felt the club had gone. My personal thoughts are that you need to give fans something to get behind. Be it a player, a cup run, attractive football etc. We have been terrible in the cups since joining the SPL. Granted being drawn against Celtic in a number of competitions does not help but trips to Hampden or even quarter finals are a great occasion for fans. Success like this builds a buzz around the club. I was lucky enough to be at the Scottish Cup semi against Dunfermline in 2004. It was the start of my love affair with the club. Enough has been said about the style of football being played. Teams like St Mirren and Killie played decent football last season, why can't we? We were lucky enough to have a team sheet full of players who had been at the club a while. Who our support recognised and could identify with. Now we seem to be filling our squads with players who nobody had heard of and fans can not identy with. These players do not stay long. Other teams in the SPL at a similar level to us are finding players from the lower leagues in Scotland who I refuse to believe are damanding higher wages than our boys from accross the border. Am I right in saying Mackay-Steven was on about £200 a week at Airdrie? How are fans supposed to care about a team when the squad changes nearly every season? It wouldn't be fair to write off Butcher's signings this summer as they have not played a competitive game yet. I do wonder what we will be saying in a few months time. I fear the way the club are doing things at the moment could create a downward spiral. The positive seems to be the youth coming through. Heres hoping they can put in good performances and inspire people to come back or just as importantly stick around.
    2 points
  5. Agreed with above, no one is in great shape excluding Celtic, Dundee United and i suppose Motherwell. Hopefully with the squad being a bit smaller and their being more experience within the team then there will be a bit more unity and that could see us put a bit of form together. Dundee will struggle the most, have the smallest budget by the looks of it and for want of a better phrase have been thrown into the deep end at a dangerous time. St Mirren and Kilmarnock have enough quality to see them through but only if they keep their important players fit, think us and County fall into the same category. Hibs and Aberdeen have made some good signings but no doubt the expectation levels of a good season will wear thin after a while and they will suffer from the usual problems. Dont see our current squad setting the league alight but if we keep our own council and hold our own i will be more than happy given the turmoil this league has come under in recent months.
    2 points
  6. http://sport.stv.tv/..._medium=twitter Kenny Cameron along with Duncan Fraser of Aberdeen, Peter Lawell of Celtic and Neil Doncaster of the SPL are part of the team re-negotiating the SPL TV deals. With little known of the broadcaster's position, how do people think this will pan out? Does the supposed presence of our chairman in the group put people at ease? Do you think he will be a voice for the smaller clubs and us as fans? It is not known if he is down south with Lawell and Doncaster (pictured in the video)
    1 point
  7. Just found out about this: Either this is an ingenious way of getting more paying away fans through the gates or they are really worried about having a small crowd for their SPL opener For those involved in organising supporters buses, is this a feasible way to get more away fans through the gates?
    1 point
  8. Problem is the newco does not think they have no right to the oldco's honours...or even, if you are to take any notice of Ally McCoist, the money whatever was passing for Rangers "earned" in the SPL last season, which by rights should go to the creditors so royally shafted, but are being claimed by newco, as they perceive themselves as oldco reincarnated pristine fresh and untainted......as in Not only are they withholding our SPL prize money for last season – they won't tell us how much it is. Does the man have a brain with which to bless himself? Though I'm not holding my breath, the whole honours thing, at least, could be sorted if an EBT investigation found oldco guilty of breaking the rules, because, from all I have read, one of the very few thought out and laid down penalties any element in the football hierarchy have thought of putting into place ahead of being shocked into immobility by unexpected occurrences, is the one which says the standard penalty for teams contravening the single playing contract requirements is that every team which included players for whom they broke that rule will be deemed to have lost every game in which that/those player/s played by 3-0. That should pretty much wipe out all honours won by Rangers between 2001 and 2010. In fact, seems to me, if they had been found out at any time between then and now, they would have been relegated to SFL1 at the end of the season in which they had been proven to cheat. And if the SFL had the same rule (I don't know if it is an SFA or SPL one) that may well have nipped their tax evasion scam in the bud....and we might not be here now. So should those in the Scottish fitba hierarchy, who did know about Ranger's EBTs, such as those who were personally benefiting from them, not be dismissed under gross misconduct auspices? Campbell Ogilvie, for example. Not for accepting them for themselves...but for not flagging up that Rangers, by using them to cheat the tax system were contravening the rules of the entity which was employing them. Or are they all stupid enough to think that, if they were being paid "under the counter" and happy to accept that, they were the only ones? Having said all of the above, I am 99.995% sure that Scottish football will manage to fudge everything and resolve nothing to anybody's satisfaction, given the practice they have had since the four horsemen of the Apocalypse came riding in on the day Rangers entered administration. Nothing done will solve anything to Newcos satisfaction unless they have dictated what is to happen (which is, unfortunately, imo, the most likely option). Newco appears to have sprung in full irrational whining mode wielding the sword of entitlement and the shield of the money to be made by sectarianism, from the loins of one of the two biggest problems in Scottish football ever.
    1 point
  9. I do think that it is easier to keep players that came up through the divisions with the club and were settled I the area. Perhaps just a natural progression and one of the down sides of being a consistent SPL club that pays at the bottom end of the SPL pay table
    1 point
  10. Over a third of our squad are home grown. While that is true. It is difficult to deny that there has been a huge turnover over the past few seasons. Most of Butcher's signings have been from the English lower leagues and a lot of them have not stayed long enough to make a real impression on fans or have simply not been good enough. We seem to have gone from one extreme to another in terms of having a cluster of players who stayed with us long enough to earn testimonials to having players that stay a season or less in the case of some loan signings.
    1 point
  11. Which, let's be honest, given our finances is where we would typically expect to be.
    1 point
  12. I don't have a season ticket due to living overseas. My father renewed his very early on and as I will be home for a few days next month I am going to take in the Killie game. I asked him to purchase me a ticket and he was able to get the seat next to him. That seat had been a season ticket holders for many years and it was not renewed I believe due to a mixture of not being able to get to enough games due to other commitments to justify it and also a level of disillusionment with the product on show. I know that people say the football on show doesn't have a direct influence but if you are on the fence due to financial or other restrictions the thought of watching a poor display week in week out for another season will probably make your mind up. At the end of the day the attendance element is still in the hands of the club. If the team perform well on the field attendances will naturally rise even though season tickets may be lower than usual due to other issues. Therefore as I have stated previously the first home game against Killie will give the first indication of which way this is going to go. Terry - over to you....
    1 point
  13. I renewed my season ticket but if county hadn't come up this year I may well not have. That lack of passion, effort and entertainment showed in the majority of home games last season will have put people off renewing. When ICT were progressing up the divisions under Paterson we didn't win every game. However when we didn't win I seem to recall leaving the game disappointed at losing but also feeeling that i had been entertained and the team had given everything. Maybe that's just me looking at things through rose tinted glasses tho........... I will remain an ICT supporter but if the on field performance does not improve this season I may well give up my season ticket next year.
    1 point
  14. It's all very well fans not renewing season tickets but then they cannot complain if the quality of players we can sign then decreases due to lack of money. It will be intersting to see the results of the poll but when you see a team like Hibs increasing their season ticket sales and Aberdeen as well, when they were equally as poor as us last season, if not poorer, it does make you question the loyalty of some supporters. As I have said before, Inverness either wants an SPL team or it doesn't, I think too many fans would be happier being in the lower divisions. SMEE - while £12 a game would be great, and I agree that football is overpriced, I don't even think that would get fans back sad to say.
    1 point
  15. One option that isn't in the poll is the lack of good home results last season. Its all very well for fans to talk about entertaining football but surely history teaches us that supporters (of any club) will turn out to see a winning team, and they desert in droves when the team is losing week after week. Success on the pitch is by far the biggest factor if you ask me.
    1 point
  16. On the bright side with so many teams not looking great we could capitalise and finish top 6. Don't eat me. Just Vomiting rainbows as usual.
    1 point
  17. Not the best choice of words I agree especially under the current circumstances. There is definitely something going on though and I am sure at some point it will all come out and I suspect it will all revolve around the poor deals that the SPL had in place. Still can't get my head around this newco/oldco arrangement. I actually think Green is correct when he says there is no precedence for the stance being taken by the SFA/SPL and it will be interesting to see what Europe thinks of it. Can only think it may make our footballing leadership look naive and unprofessional once again. It is time to get over it. Rangers oldco are gone. Rangers newco have started where they deserved to start. The newco has no rights to the oldco's honours and so the first thing that should be going are those five stars above the badge. Their new club has a clean sheet with which to show Scottish football in a different light but I am not sure if they will take it. It's just a pity they didn't take the other half with them as this problem is not just about one club. Who knows next season maybe....
    1 point
  18. 1 point
  19. It would almost have been worth £80 million to get Rangers consigned to the dustbin of life...but the irritation is, they are still here practically unchanged.
    1 point
  20. Wondered where the cops were, given the very definite sectarian singing. Thought that was illegal now? Were there many arrests? That's where I have a big problem with oldco-Rangers supporters, whichever team they are supporting atm..the level of complete irrationality, bile and just downright arrogance they employ. They are, by far and away the nastiest and least intelligent supporters (en masse) in Scottish Football today, and have been for years, a complete embarrassment to decent Fitba supporters. To be fair, I think they are just about equal with the other half of bile. Been spat on, peed on, had pies thrown at us, and even had a wee kid sh1t amongst us at Parkhead with the best fans in the world shouting Touch him an yer deed, while they sing their bile. Only had coke thrown at us at Ibrokx, and the singing ofcourse. Just a higher proportion of dreggs of society follow both of them, and the more of them they have the lower the tone goes. Brechin did well, Rangers did poor for the team fielded, but if they had a real striker the game would have been finished at half time, although they will likely get one within the month!!!!! Think Greens comments are guided towards the sanctions against them as newco, on behalf of oldco. It does seem like a witch hunt now. Players still won and lost titles during this time in question, their wages didnt change how they won and lost, most clubs pay bonuses dont they, us included. When it comes to gate money, think cup games are always split ( hence why county usually lose 1200 fans compared to league games ) with clubs keeping the home league gates. TV monies would be split between the two teams in a cup game, whereas in the sfl televised games income will go to the SPL, so they feed it between the clubs in the top league, and just drip small amounts down to the sfl clubs, or so they want.
    1 point
  21. I reckon it's between us and Dundee for relegation
    1 point
  22. The Stanning family have got strong Lossiemouth links originating I think from the father's military posting there. So, although born in Yeovil (her Wikipedia entry wrongly states that it was Lossie), I understand that Heather was also a Lossie resident for a number of years so maybe even a local day pupil at Gordonstoun. I also think the parents still live in Lossie. The subject of Zara Phillips reminds me of a classic Colin Baillie anecdote. Colin was refereeing a rugby match between Millburn and Gordonstoun of which Zara's brother Peter Phillips was team captain, so at the start of the game, Baillie flips the coin and says "Right son - tails or granny?!"
    1 point
  23. I don't understand paragraph 24.11 "I understand I may be required to remain on the pitch for the full 90 minutes."
    1 point
  24. Green 'Ian a few questions before you sign about your footballing education. Can you cope with being on trial at Brechin?' Ian 'Charles, I have a lot of experience of being on trial. Anyway, all I want is to sign fer the mighty Gers and play in an old firm derby at Peterhead.'
    1 point
  25. WATP - we're away to Peterhead...
    1 point
  26. Can I get an advance on me wages, I aint been paid by Hearts since Christmas
    1 point
  27. Mtr Green before I sign this what does An EBT mean?
    1 point
  28. Ian Black signs contract in the new Rangers trophy room.
    1 point
  29. I think the antics of Giggs and others is just another example of whty football should not be included in the olympics. Giggs would clearly rather play for Man Utd than his country and simply does not have a clue what performing in the Olympics is all about. The Olympics is about being proud to represent your country and performing to the very best of your ability. Giggs is doing neither. Giggs gets paid vast amounts of money for playing his sport whereas others train every bit as hard as him, earn nothing but some modest sponsorship and are immensly proud that they have this opportunity to represent their country in these great games. For many it is the one and only time in their careers that they have a chance for the wider public to appreciate the committment they give to their sport and the acheivements they have made. What the Olympics do not need is for these fine young men and women to have their moment of glory upstaged by some whinging overpaid footballers. Early this morning, for instance a couple of British rowers set an Olympic record in their heat in the women's pairs. That's what I want to watch and applaud in the olympics but when the olympics are over I'll get back to watching football and not rowing and table tennis etc. Do us a favour, Ryan - make sure you lose the next 2 games and then we can all focus on sportsmen and women who understand what it means to represent their country in the olympics.
    1 point
  30. Quite bloody right too!! Cannae agree with this nationalistic nonsense,In the Olympics they are representing Britain and like it or not thats the GB national anthem.If they feel that strongly nationalistic surely they should say "no thanks" I'm not representing GB. Different story if it were in the Commonwealth games or any event they were representing Wales/Scotland/Ireland when i would agree with there stance. As for Wee Eck's Scolympians!! That'll be why they dropped this verse then. Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save the King. They didn't "drop" any verse, there's no "official" version just a traditional anonymous version which became an anthem of the union of Great Britain. In modern times only the first 2 verses ever get sung and the sentiments at the time of writing were not "anti Scots" but anti "rebellious Scots" when it was relevant. The point i was trying to make though is the hypocrisy of those who are "proud" to be representing GB but refuse to participate in the national anthem of the country they are representing.If you don't believe in the union fair enough, but why accept the invitation to represent Great Britain then partake in political posturing to show how nationalistic you are. edited to add, there was nothing about crushing rebellious Welshmen!
    1 point
  31. Quite bloody right too!! Cannae agree with this nationalistic nonsense,In the Olympics they are representing Britain and like it or not thats the GB national anthem.If they feel that strongly nationalistic surely they should say "no thanks" I'm not representing GB. Different story if it were in the Commonwealth games or any event they were representing Wales/Scotland/Ireland when i would agree with there stance. As for Wee Eck's Scolympians!!
    1 point
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