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Duncan Ferguson & Who was in the running

Lets see who you all want then. Frightening list of dross and hope pulled together.

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    He became manager there five days before the transfer window closed. Not that easy to sign an entire squad in that time. And the few signings he did make included Onyango from Everton (who has been on

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    Well I for one am hugely up for this, probably because it's the first time I've been starstruck by a managerial appointment; Dunc was one of my favourite players to watch when he was at Everton and Ne

  • Big Dunc seems to have made a positive start. We will see. Hope this continues. Also hope that the cracks his appointment are papering over are not allowed to remain papered over indefinitely. 

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    • Neil McCann
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    • Tam Courts
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    • Yogi
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    • Kevin Thompson
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    • Ian McCall
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17 minutes ago, Douglas Mackenzie said:

SG jacket still on a shouglie peg but I doubt he ain't going

Maybe he has just saved his skin,but he needs to look at how he is running the club.

A bold managerial decision doesn't change anything, even with an upturn in results. All the same questions around finances, top heavy structure and dismissive attitude towards fans all remain.

Whether Dodds & Wilson has been paid off or getting paid we have now an outlay on a new managerial team on a long deal plus retaining our DoF. Even if we stay up this year financially we not strengthening so big worry if we drop to the seaside leagues.

His first Interview was on sky sports news for anyone looking to see it. 

3 hours ago, Northern_jaggie said:

I like the idea of a manager with contacts 

Maybe he knows David Martindale from the big hoose 

Oh no - one of my footballing heroes who I idolised from the Gladwys Street. There were a lots of side issues at Forest Green and he was lauded as a coach at Everton. But this is an expensive ploy by Gardener. "Ambitious Club".  CEO has sprung a big surprise and some would say 'coup', putting him in a strong position for the now. Will also say that three years gives him the time to get us back into the Premiership.Good excuse to keep Robbo as he will say that he will advise about Scottish football. Dunc is a very approachable and open guy and I look forward to having a wee chat. Oh I want him to succeed but I am far from confident and we need to know where the spondoolicks came for this move. We may now have one of the most expensive hierarchies in Scotland and the least expensive player budget.

 

If we've got money to bring in a big name manager, and money to bring in more loan players, then why was it not available for Dodds?

If they didn't trust Dodds to spend it wisely, then why give him a new 2 year deal?

If we believed there is more ability in the squad than they've shown and it just needed a little more time, why sack Dodds?

As has been the case since Gardiner was appointed, every action leaves us with more questions than answers.

30 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

Here’s an observation that just struck me after writing that - our happiest times have been with defenders as manager (Paterson, Butcher, Hughes). Then a succession of forwards got us to where are today. 

Robbo got us into the Premier League. 

Think I am being harsh on Dunc. 

His temporary stint at Everton was actually pretty impressive. 

 

After a run of poor form that got Marco Silva sacked he did this starting with Chelsea game. 

 

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And just to put the context here's where those teams finished that season.

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In Dunc we trust. 

2 hours ago, STFU said:

If we believed there is more ability in the squad than they've shown and it just needed a little more time, why sack Dodds?

I don’t think anybody (except Dodds) was saying it just needed more time. The club’s decision was based on them concluding that a different manager could get more out of the squad and better results than Dodds was getting.

11 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

I don’t think anybody (except Dodds) was saying it just needed more time. The club’s decision was based on them concluding that a different manager could get more out of the squad and better results than Dodds was getting.

And if there was any decrease in the effort of the squad, in anyway, due to the rumours of rifts  between Dodds and some of the team, a new coach with new ideas will press reset, and everyone will start with a clean slate. 

Well I wasn't expecting that!

Welcome big Dunc

Work your magic on Harry Lodovica!

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4 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

Robbo got us into the Premier League. 

Donald Park got us there .

 

6 hours ago, caley1 said:

Donald Park got us there .

With Pele's team.

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9 hours ago, tm4tj said:

 

Fairly standard new manager speech. Talks the talk well and comes across with enthusiasm. I too have slept on my earlier thoughts and I still have my doubts. We certainly needed a change that is for sure. Whether this is the right one remains to be seen. Good luck to him, the club and, perhaps more importantly, the bank balance. 

Ferguson on Talk Sport just now confirmed Gary Bollan as assistant manager.

Feck me - get the orange tops ironed and play God save the King before kick off. 3 year contract? Have we found an anonymous backer ?

 

56 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

Feck me - get the orange tops ironed and play God save the King before kick off. 3 year contract? Have we found an anonymous backer ?

 

Play that dirge once and I am out of here. 

Positives and negatives about appointing Ferguson.

POSITIVES

He has coaching and assistant manager experience at the highest level.  He was a first team coach at Everton from 2014 to 2022, caretaker manager a couple of times.  He worked with Roberto Martinez, Ronald Koeman, Sam Allardyce, Marco Silva, Carlo Ancelloti, Rafa Benetiz.  That has to be worth something. He seems to have been highly regarded by those he worked with.  He has a reputation as a motivator, a positive guy who is passionate as a coach, not someone who is more analytical and measured. 

NEGATIVES

He hasn't been involved in Scottish football for decades, he's never coached here at all.  You can be certain he'll have zero knowledge of players at this level.  He was interviewed by Tony Bellew for a podcast earlier this year and he said that he hasn't really paid much attention to Scottish football for years - which is understandable as he was coaching a Premier league club so knowledge of lower leagues in Scotland isn't required.

He had a poor record as manager of Forest Green Rovers, who were in a similar position to us when he took over - bottom of their league.  There are obviously reasons behind every failure (and success) and from what I've read about it there were underlying things wrong at the club that meant he wasn't in a position to succeed.

 

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