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Club Statement
As one major part of our planned strategic restructure of the club, ICTFC are delighted to announce an innovative agreement with League 1 side Kelty Hearts which will see the club move our training base to the Fife club’s New Central Park Stadium.
This creative partnership will mean that we will hire their excellent facilities which include a 3g pitch, onsite grass pitches and offices for our coaching staff, as our training base during the week starting from this coming pre-season in June.
The last few years have seen the geographic challenges in getting players to move to the Highlands become ever harder for a number of reasons.
Caledonian Stadium will always be our home, but other factors in Scottish football have changed and where we train should not be an impediment to the quality of the players we can attract to Caley Thistle, or to our potential to progress.
The commercial success of the city of Inverness – which will always be our home - both as a tourist destination and a place to live, has led to very high prices for the accommodation we require to house players. In addition to these high costs which our competitors do not carry, the extremely limited housing stock in Inverness continues to be both a challenge and a huge factor working against us.
Increased playing budgets in and around the central belt has meant that on many occasions, even when we have offered players more favourable terms than our competitors, sometimes even agreed deals, we have then been told that the player has changed his mind due to challenges relocating their families. Support structures in and around the families of players may all be in and around the central belt, partners will have jobs where they live and moving kids schools to the Highlands and moving home itself can just be seen as impractical for a one or two year contract.
It makes it particularly challenging for us to sign senior players, a category which through no fault of our budget, or of previous ICT Managers, we have struggled to attract in the last few seasons.
Similarly, our location means that we miss out on the opportunity of signing promising players from the larger clubs in Scotland, on loan or otherwise.
For the avoidance of any doubt we absolutely intend to continue to develop our own homegrown Highland boys and we will take the appropriate steps to make sure that by being creative, innovative and practical, they do not miss out on the chance to have a pathway to first team football with their team. We have a proud tradition of introducing local players in to our first team and this will absolutely continue.
We obviously never intended to be in the same division as Kelty when originally exploring this concept, but football throws strange things at you sometimes and having reassessed the proposition and judged that the pros still far outweigh the cons, we would like to thank the Board of Kelty Hearts and MD Stefan Winiarski and his management team for considering this unique to the SPFL partnership, and then seeing and agreeing on the possibilities and benefits for both clubs.
To reiterate, by moving our footballing department's training base to central Scotland, both the club's Board of Directors and the club's First Team Management feel we give ourselves the best possible chance to attract the highest quality players to the club, allowing some of the players we sign to also live in and around the central belt while playing for ICTFC.
We now look forward to taking further positive strides on and off the pitch to address the football and financial challenges we face we believe this exciting opportunity to help us attract players previously not available to us and build a better squad, is one of the first steps we can make and we hope to develop further innovative partnerships.
Inverness is and will always be our home.
The Caledonian Stadium will always be where we play our football. We hope this venture will help us achieve our goal in giving our supporters a team to be proud of.

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8 hours ago, ICTPaisley said:

I don’t really care if people are holding back their money for season tickets, but this seems like really poor logic to me. Gardiner gets his money regardless. 

 

 

And whilst he is still in the building he still has influence hence people not wanting to purchase. If he was put out on Garden leave and unable to influence things then I think fans would feel happy about giving up their hard-earned cash. The board have the power to do that. We have the power to influence the board into doing that. No money until Gardiner is out the building and on Garden leave.

On 6/17/2024 at 4:49 PM, Pele_Is_God said:

Training starting next Monday now. 

For the board?

39 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

For the board?

Obvious really - Duncan only has enough players for 4 a side unless Grassa can still stroll though a game and the club loan Gary Bollan a pair of Bobby Mann's shorts from the club museum.

A little over three weeks before our first competitive game of the season and we've not started training, no signings, no word on players coming or going from last season and the manager is MIA. What a club! 😍

1 hour ago, RiG said:

A little over three weeks before our first competitive game of the season and we've not started training, no signings, no word on players coming or going from last season and the manager is MIA. What a club! 😍

Just curious where the rest of league one are at? Are they all back with full squads available?

Not starting preseason till next week is not so strange when you consider our season ended a fortnight later than most other clubs'. From social media it appears that most clubs returned to training this week.

 

However the lack of any news on signings/player releases and our manager disappearing off the face of the earth are hugely concerning. It'll be hard to do preseason without a goalkeeper, for a start.

54 minutes ago, ICTPaisley said:

Just curious where the rest of league one are at? Are they all back with full squads available?

Not sure. I think Alloa and QotS are already back and training but you might think that as one the few (possibly the only I can't recall right now) full time teams in the league we might be back sooner than others.

Let’s face it the fans have been in the dark with everything and nothing is going to change in that respect as long as S G is still around …..I am trying to believe that on the 13th of July we will have a team including a goalie.for our first game . We need to believe at this stage and pray it all comes to fruition.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

It is difficult to make signings when there is still no word about the future management structure and financing of the club.  Even if we have a manager (and we are not actually sure we do) there will be no identified budget to allow contracts to be offered.  Every day that passes without firm news increases the worry.

Friday's anonymous statement sounded encouraging, but was the mention of "hugely positive discussions with a number of potential investors" the truth or simply a sop to encourage some people to part with their money?  Apart from Ross Morrison, the club's management is still the same Board and the same CEO who thought it was a good idea to move to Kelty and to do so without discussing it at all with their contracted Inverness based players?  Do they really expect anyone to trust a word they say? 

If the old guard care anything for the club, they will be doing all they possibly can to facilitate the transfer of control to those willing to invest in the club.  If that transfer of control is not completed by the end of this week, I fear it might be too late to get a team on the park on the first day of the season.

 

On 6/19/2024 at 10:05 AM, DoofersDad said:

It is difficult to make signings when there is still no word about the future management structure and financing of the club.  Even if we have a manager (and we are not actually sure we do) there will be no identified budget to allow contracts to be offered.  Every day that passes without firm news increases the worry.

Friday's anonymous statement sounded encouraging, but was the mention of "hugely positive discussions with a number of potential investors" the truth or simply a sop to encourage some people to part with their money?  Apart from Ross Morrison, the club's management is still the same Board and the same CEO who thought it was a good idea to move to Kelty and to do so without discussing it at all with their contracted Inverness based players?  Do they really expect anyone to trust a word they say? 

If the old guard care anything for the club, they will be doing all they possibly can to facilitate the transfer of control to those willing to invest in the club.  If that transfer of control is not completed by the end of this week, I fear it might be too late to get a team on the park on the first day of the season.

 

Agree on just about everything you say DD. Communications with the fans in the next three weeks is key and I understand the few people brought in the assist the board know this. Let’s hope something more informative appears this coming weekend. 
It’s a hard one to call for the fans given the uncertainty at the club. A lot will be reluctant to buy ST not knowing whether there will be a club in a month’s time. A statement providing sufficient evidence that investment or funding (from whatever individuals, organisations or groups) could go a long way to swing fans towards buying ST.

The other elephant in the room is SG. I believe the board would like to expedite SG’s departure, however it may be his contract is something in his favour and he holds all the cards. So we (the fans) may have to accept his presence around the club until the board can uncouple him. Really this will come down to a financial settlement in my opinion.

Ultimately for me I will buy a ST when an announcement on administration is off the table and SG is gone. Until then I will attend each match to help show support for the club in my own little way. 

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1 hour ago, big cherly said:

 

Ultimately for me I will buy a ST when an announcement administration is off the table and SG is gone. Until then I will attend each match to help show support for the club in my own little way. 

That's the best way to do it Cherly 👍 I like the new strips and will buy for the grandkids when the day of reckoning happens. I bet there are a lot of people talking a similar stance and the club should beade aware of this.

In the P and J today  'Mark Ridgers still open to Caley Thistle talks after turning down three offers from other SPFL clubs'  https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/inverness-caledonian-thistle/6506669/mark-ridgers-still-open-to-caley-thistle-talks-after-three-offers/

Surely someone at the Club could let the out of contract players and some staff, who are now potentially on the dole, know if there is any chance of future employment? 

 

All part of the reason why supporters are very wary about buying season tickets!

 

'....we now respectfully ask the supporters to rally around the team and the management, and a squad which will feature more Inverness and Highland players than we have had for many a long year and if ever we need the fans, it is now.'

Maybe the Trust could ask the Club which team and management including squad we are rallying around. How can we currently rally around ......silence?

2 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

In the P and J today  'Mark Ridgers still open to Caley Thistle talks after turning down three offers from other SPFL clubs'  https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/inverness-caledonian-thistle/6506669/mark-ridgers-still-open-to-caley-thistle-talks-after-three-offers/

Surely someone at the Club could let the out of contract players and some staff, who are now potentially on the dole, know if there is any chance of future employment? 

 

The man has literally told the club in several different articles to "come sign me". He is showing blind loyalty to a club that day-by-day erodes and ultimately does not deserve the respect he is showing it. FFS, sign him or at least tell him you want to and then figure out the details when the dust settles. A 1 month or 2-month contract (up to before the end of transfer window) so everyone has options and a get out clause in case things don't quite work out.  

If anyone actually wants to play for us then (very) short-term contracts may be the way to go until certain individuals have left the building and others have entered.   

A total farce.  Where's Big Dunc in all this?  Not talking to any players, it seems.  What a leader/manager!

6 hours ago, Scotty said:

The man has literally told the club in several different articles to "come sign me". He is showing blind loyalty to a club that day-by-day erodes and ultimately does not deserve the respect he is showing it. FFS, sign him or at least tell him you want to and then figure out the details when the dust settles. A 1 month or 2-month contract (up to before the end of transfer window) so everyone has options and a get out clause in case things don't quite work out.  

If anyone actually wants to play for us then (very) short-term contracts may be the way to go until certain individuals have left the building and others have entered.   

His Mrs works for the club which is why he's wanting to stay which you can understand . Fair play to him for being loyal but I hope he's not led up the garden path 

5 minutes ago, bigterrybutcher said:

His Mrs works for the club which is why he's wanting to stay which you can understand . Fair play to him for being loyal but I hope he's not led up the garden path 

As long as its not the Gardiner path

3 minutes ago, Gringo said:

I see on Instagram that Aaron Doran has been given his P45 by email. 🤬

Smells of Gardiner but then again Grassa and co are as bad allowing this to all to continue as it has . Between them they’re killing the club 

We're almost a week on from a faceless call to arms and a plea to invest in season tickets, new kit and to get behind the club. Since then absolutely nada, nish, zero. 

Eight days until our first friendly and not a word regarding the playing squad, our invisible management team or any other fundamental issues relating to the season ahead.

Quite frankly the most unprofessional bunch of clueless chancers that have ever graced a boardroom or dugout. An utter p1sstake which is surely severely undermining any last dregs of goodwill amongst our support.

I'd be interested to hear what the Supporter's Trust have to say on this ongoing debacle.

 

 

 

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