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Rather than complain about the officials, we need to learn lessons from last night. The 2nd disallowed goal was obviously a shocker, but the 1st was marginal (if it actually was off), while the officials did well to allow the Pars' goal which was actually onside although at first glance it looked well off. A lesson here is that you play to the whistle. The Partick defender looked like an absolute plonker standing there with his arm raised when he should have been putting pressure on Todd who was give plenty of time to sweetly chip the ball over the keeper. Partick may not have had the rub of the green last night, but they weren't robbed. In the 2nd half, Dunfermline were much the better side and deserved to win. Dunfermline have under-performed this season but it looks as though they might be coming into a bit of form. On that performance, we will do well to take anything out of the game on Tuesday. It puts even more pressure on us to get a win today and, of course, it makes it even more important for Arbroath to do the same. There is no easy game in this league and we need 100% commitment till the final whistle in every game. What with all the off field distractions it is more important than ever that the fans get behind the team, especially when things are not going well in the game.

Noooooo I remember the same thing being said when Foran was manager! A spell in Championship what we need....well that's turned out just great eh. I have no wish for us to play in Div 1

Hard to disagree with Dunc actually. More or less dominated the first half and had a few blocked on the line. Always felt it could come back to bite us. Second half was very poor and we relied heavily on the long punt up to Samuel but we had a few near things when the final pass was poor. Looked like 2 stonewall handball claims to me. Arbroath goal was away down the far end but looked scrappy. Not the most memorable trip ever to Arbroath, will miss it although I hope we are in different divisions next season. Half hour delay due to roadworks between Perth and Dundee - should have paid attention to the satnav. Then another 10 mins delay before Arbroath. Steak and black pudding pie 10/10. Plus Mrs Mantis and I have just scoffed two of the biggest smokies ever seen .

Gardiner killing our club through his **** management and decisions. What a wonderful appointment he has made to manage the club . Sooner this unpopular Hearts reject is shown the door the better . A lot of turmoil this club is in has a hell of a lot to do with him . Enough is enough GTF

Wow. Lose our next 2 games and we are in hot bother

Wait..... I have a plan. Tuesday night: Wins for Partick, Dundee United, Inverness and Raith and a draw QP v Arbroath. Friday night: Win for Raith Saturday: Wins for Partick & Inverness, draws in the other two and we are up to fifth 4 points behind Morton.

For a long time I'd always said we'd be just as bad if not worse under Dodds. His recruitment in the summer was honking. However, the last couple of months and some truly bizarre recruitment in January makes it very, very hard to stick with the same opinion I had before.

I'd like to see us come out flying, run Arbroath ragged and then bring in Mckay, Doran and Samuels to exploit tired opposition. We're almost at the nothing to lose stage, and I'd rather see us going down fighting than whimpering.

If we lost a game because we had a perfectly good goal ruled out by incompetent officials that would have us 2 up. Then another ruled out by more incompetence I would say we were robbed. GOALS change games. 3 views from last night. Incredible drama with no VAR to clear it up! Partick Thistle 1-2 Dunfermline Martin Dowden BBC Sport Scotland at Firhill Stadium That's two 'goals' Thistle will feel hugely aggrieved by. Quite why that was given and then overturned has absolutely baffled this crowd. Confusion all around. 'Another wrong decision' Partick Thistle 1-2 Dunfermline Athletic Michael Stewart Former Scotland international on BBC Scotland That is two goals Partick Thistle have had chalked off when they really shouldn't have. They should be winning this game. Partick Thistle manager Kris Doolan: "We don't want to hide behind decisions, and they were very bad, and the game swings on decisions at times. If we get the first one, you are 2-0 up essentially.

The Accounts for the year end to 31st May 2023 are due on Thursday. It will be interesting to see if they are delivered on time and to see what they say. The accounts for 2021 were a full 3 months late, but those for 2022 were submitted on the due date. It is maybe pertinent to remind ourselves that the club changed accountants in the intervening period, and it is certainly pertinent to remind ourselves on what was said in the accounts to justify the "going concern" status. They stated that "The Company remains reliant on player trading, new funding streams and the continued financial support backing of its directors, shareholders and supporters". So how much funding will these various streams provide? One thing we have been very poor at recently is player trading. There seems to have been nothing of note since we got a bit of cash for Daniel MacKay. The new funding streams are elsewhere listed in the accounts as being the Loch Ness Hydro Pump Project (i.e. payment for providing temporary car parking facilities), the battery project (uncertainties identified elsewhere in this thread) and the new Green Freeport (which they state in the accounts has "huge potential for the development of our site", but which the Chairman recently told us he is struggling to see how the club can get any benefit from.) As for financial backers, the directors are now providing money to the club on a formal loan basis as detailed on the Registration of Charge documents submitted to Companies House on 11th Jan this year. This strongly suggests that the level of financial input from the current directors is likely to be less in the future than it has been in the past. A further factor, which I had previously missed, is the Notice of Termination of Ian MacDonald as Company Secretary and which was submitted to Companies House the day before the Registration of Charge documents were submitted. There has been nothing submitted to say a replacement has been appointed. Ian joined the Board of Directors way back in 1997 and was on the Board till 2004 when he took on the role of Company Secretary. Maybe I have missed something, but there appears to have been no statement from the club about him giving up his role after over 25 years service to the club. Surely, notice of this low key departure being submitted to Companies House on the day before the Registration of Charge documents were submitted is no coincidence. The club got an easy time from shareholders at the AGM last April. This year's AGM might be a bit more challenging for them.

Watched the Plastic game last night. Talk about being robbed...goodness me. Official were very very poor. Result didn't do us any favours but credit to Pars for taking advantage of their good fortune. If ever we had a must win game...this is it.

Watch premiership in Dingwall when ict away. ref gives goal var changes to offside/foul etc ref gives offside/ foul etc var changes to goal ref gives yellow var changes to red ref gives red var changes to yellow scottish refs are being found out every week around the country by var and bbc to on a Friday night and are not held to account. Wonder how Dunfermline 3 points tonight may affect us at end of season.

Welp, hopefully we can beat Kelty next season

Back to the start We head to Arbroath on Saturday, the scene of Big Dunc's first game in charge of the Caley Jags, where we earned our first win of the season in our seventh Championship game and his tenure at the Caley Jags began with only one point on the board prior to this game. We now sit on twenty-five points, but still perilously close to the relegation zone, unable to put a consistent run together to climb the table like others have done (Morton the prime example). Max Anderson is suspened and something like five definite outs and another five struggling with knocks. Nothing new there then! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Match/Ticket/Travel info Max Anderson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venue Pld Won Drn Lst For Agst + / - Home 25 17 4 4 60 21 +39 Away 24 11 6 7 35 29 +6 Neutral 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Total 49 28 10 11 95 50 +45 We have always generally had the edge over Arbroath but have found them to be more resilient of late, losing at home last time we met. Last 10 Competitive Meetings 1 - 2 (H) 3 - 2 (A) 2 - 4 (A) 2 - 0 (H) 4 - 1 (A) 1 - 1 (H) 0 - 0 (A) 0 - 0 (A) 0 - 0 (H) 3 - 0 (H) Looking Down: 1 - 2 For cod's sake! Inverness slumped to an embarrassing defeat as Arbroath stunned Ferguson's flops at the Caledonian Stadium. Arbroath with big players out and only three outfield players on the bench proved too good for an overrated Inverness bunch of haddies who were easily beaten by the Smokies. With both sides losing in midweek, this game took on more significance for Big Dunc's side and Jim McIntyre was also looking to get away from the bottom of the table after he replaced Dick Campbell. David Wotherspoon was fit enough to start and good to see Keith Bray return to the squad alongside Robbie Thompson. Arbroath came North with only four on the bench with Michael McKenna and Ricky Little still out injured and O'Brien suspended. As it turned out we are now looking down the table instead of up after back to back defeats to the two teams who were below us only four days ago as Arbroath won 2-1. That was new manager Jim McIntyre's first win and it moves Arbroath off the bottom of the table. one point behind Inverness. All the goals came in the first half from Jay Bird, Billy Mckay and two minutes later David Gold. Looks like a few will be going cheap in the January sales. Pos Team Pld W D L F A Pts Partick Thistle v Dunfermline: Friday Night TV game (mon the Harry Wraggs) 1. Dundee Utd 23 14 6 3 46 13 48 2. Raith Rovers 23 14 5 4 42 32 47 3. Partick Thistle 23 10 8 5 46 37 38 4. Morton 23 9 6 8 32 27 33 5. Ayr United 24 8 5 11 33 43 29 6. Airdrieonians 22 8 4 10 22 27 28 7. Queens Park 24 7 6 11 31 41 27 8. Inverness CT 24 6 7 11 29 31 25 9. Dunfermline 23 6 7 10 25 33 25 10. Arbroath 23 5 4 14 24 46 19 SATURDAY 24TH FEBRUARY Arbroath v Inverness CT Ayr United v Raith Rovers Dundee Utd v Queen's Park Morton v Airdrie Latest Team News We threw away a two goal lead last week against Partick Thistle and ended up hanging on by a thread as Partick pushed for a late winner. Highly entertaining stuff, but disappointing to only take a point after going two ahead through Kerr and Savage. Pegged back by Fitzpatrick and a Graham penalty, Shaw then restored our lead only for Graham to volley in the equaliser with five minutes left. Frantic ending to the game, but we kept our point. Both sides feel they should have won and defences are being questioned about giving away cheap goals. At least we scored a couple in the Home end, so that's a small crumb of comfort. However, every point is a prisoner now with only twelve games left to preserve our status and we can not afford to give away preventable goals. Inverness failed to get Max Anderson's red card rescinded and he misses the next two games. His direct replacement Roddy MacGregor has a foot injury. We have five definite crocks and five doubtful crocks, so it's back to making your own selection for this game. Here's Dunc to explain all... It's someting like this plus the usual mirrors, smoke screens and cloak & daggers. OUT: (Anderson, MacGregor, Lodovica, Nicolson, Mullen, Duffy) Maybe Out: (Alex Samuel, Austin Samuels, Boyes, Shaw) We've got injuries, haven't we>>> Jim McIntyre's Arbroath had a battling 1-1 draw at East End Park last week after going behind in the 18th minute through Walcott. An early second half header from Tam O'Brien levelled the game and that's how it ended. Line-up v Pars last week Boruc Gold O'Brien Teale Hamilton (Walker 90+4) Stewart Dow Norey (Murray 45) Slater Stowe (Mackinnon 45, Bird 90+7) McIntosh (Robinson 45) Subs Not Used: Gaston; Lyon, Dunnwald-Turan

Look on the bright side. We've stretched our unbeaten run to 2 games. Only Morton have got a longer unbeaten run than us at the moment!

Absolute madness to want to drop to League 1 for 'reboot'. Part time football would be an almost certainty if that happened. That said we can't even beat a PT team with our plucky band of loanees. Fear not though, Gardiner will have a plan. Like the concerts, or the freeport or the battery farm!

What the feck is this Doddsmania ? Everybody wanted rid of him. Ferguson has been tasked with sorting out the on field mess created by Dodds and the off field mess created by Gardiner & Co. Save the club financially and improve the Championship position. Mission feckin Impossible. Fraid that he has been hung out to dry and really, really hope that he has not taken - or been duped - on a Gardiner ploy with the promise of short term profit.

I'm beginning to think you may have a point!

He has no Plan B. Plan A ain't much cope as it is.

So not good enough if we cannot pick up a win playing a part time bottom of the league team it says it all . Where are the points going to come from unless Ferguson changes tact.

Never mind. We've got dunfermline at home next and our home form is fantastic !

Yep, keeps us in the play off though. Wrong frigging play offs!! We are s##t.

1-1 isn’t good enough.

We are in trouble apart from the initial surge. When he had Dodds players we haven’t done well. Since his own signings we have been really poor

Other results are going our way. Just one problem, we are not doing our job at all and we look like getting detached in 9th. We’ve had 14 attempts so far but only 3 on target, which is just not good enough. Tuesday’s match is massive now. We can’t afford any more slip ups.

Absolutely not better than Dodds anyway. I genuinely feel we’d have been in a better position with him in charge, regardless of how poor he was at the start of the season.

Massive questions should be getting asked of Ferguson now.

On the plus side, Ferguson can't being on 3 extra defenders to sit in after we go a goal up.

...and there's more creativity and ability in Mckay and Doran than the rest of the squad combined.

All 90 years of them And Samuels is only 23....

Looking at it with my glass half full, if we do our job and other results go our way today we can be sixth.

Todays games Alex Samuel & Bim Pepple starting with Billy Mckay & Austin Samuels on the bench. Nathan Shaw fit enough to start and just the four outfield substitutes. Ujdur, Boyes, Mullen, Longstaff, MacGregor, Lodovica Injured and Max Anderson suspended. What could possibly go wrong?

Only one defender on bench. Need to sign some defensive cover...

His actual date of departure as stated on the form was 10 months ago so it wouldn’t be related to the charge. No replacement needed as companies no longer need to have a company secretary. The club still should have filed the form promptly at the time though.

No PPV but they have a dedicated commentary offering.

Matthew Strachan has been recalled from his loan to Brora and has joined Nairn on loan.

Unbelievable referee and linesman decision

We’ve taken 15 points away from home so far (compared to 10 at home) out of 27 since Ferguson came in. We need to make that 18 out of 30 tomorrow.

Bad result for us, and useless match officials.

appalling officials changing decisions- Patrick being robbed - why ? Impacts on us

I suspect McAllister will drop back into midfield in place of Anderson and Doran will be in the no 10 role. With Chilokoa-Mullen out, Devine is the logical starter. If Shaw misses out too, and I assume Longstaff is still missing, possibly a start for Pepple or Brooks? I hope Samuel makes it as he and Mckay is a potentially potent partnership. It could be the smallest bench we’ve had in a long time!

Aaron Doran’s goal has been voted the best goal in the fifth round of the cup.

Go on then, it’ll happen one day… Edinburgh City @ 19.00

our 30th year also

I think many will be wary of that kind of event, sounds a bit fishy

I’m beginning to lose the thread of this Battery Farm issue and there are one or two fundamentals I would like to be able to establish - fundamentals with which, as a club shareholder, I should probably have been made more familiar. In particular, what exactly is the football club’s role in this BF project? Council minutes state that the planning application is in the name of ILI, but yet this is frequently referred to as “Caley Thistle’s battery farm”. Why should ILI want or need the football club to be involved? If they want to be benefactors or sponsors, why don’t they just give the club some cash? Or is there some fundamental benefit for ILI to have a completely unrelated football club associated with an industrial project that’s a million miles away from football? I’m also curious to know what direct involvement the club would have with the running of the farm if it gets the go ahead? If the answer is “none” then that simply revives the question above - “then why be involved at all ?” If the answer is otherwise then, especially remembering the reputationally damaging demise of the Concert Company, we need to know whether there are any other companies, directly involved or arm’s length, that are being formed here and what are the possible implications for the club? In particular, if the BF were to fail, or to blow up or something, would the club, of which many of us are shareholders, be liable in any way? The way it currently looks to me is - “ILI, which has commercial relationship with club, want to build battery farm on land owned by individuals with club connections and, for reasons that aren’t entirely clear, club stands to benefit big time. However club immediately appears to be up to its neck in the planning process for a scheme that seems to be the only financial messiah in town - to the extent that ICT seem to be fronting this industrial project that’s a million miles away from its core business and for reasons that are far from clear.” What am I missing?

Citing poor performances and loosing games as a reason for not returning is (in my opinion) what we hear from OF fans. However I do agree that the entertainment is dropping due to our playing style this is directly linked to the quality of players we have which is all finance driven - through through dropping numbers of fans and therefore lower revenues this will continue in a decreasing spiral unfortunately. The biggest issue is that given other forms of similar entertainment for the price point of football, the experience as a fan is poor. This isnt unique to ICTFC but nothing is or has changed for decades - yet unlike history where there wasnt the vast spread of leisure activities on offer clubs could be complacent , relying on loyalty - this is no longer the case. Its a whole new off topic thread and discussion but attending football is a habit not pleasure.

Well I vowed that if I didn't see a win for ICT on Saturday, that'll be the last game I go to until they get some home wins together. Probably be there a week Saturday!

I am genuinely interested. How much does he get paid?

Unless Cameron, Morrions et al can defy physics then obviously it will consume space. The issue is their choice of space. We are supposed to believe that one of the biggest land owners in the area couldn't find a viable brown field site, or, a site that is already marked for development in the IMFDP. As you say, the planners were just following their protocols about this area being protected green space. Remind us where the club, or the trust, or whoever it is that really benefits from this project, transparantly and publicly unveiled all this socio-economic data to make their case? Some greenwashing strap lines and a few puff peices about free meals for kids that the trust already provides is no where near good enough IMHO. I am amazed folk are so trusting of this mob.