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Club Statement
As one major part of our planned strategic restructure of the club, ICTFC are delighted to announce an innovative agreement with League 1 side Kelty Hearts which will see the club move our training base to the Fife club’s New Central Park Stadium.
This creative partnership will mean that we will hire their excellent facilities which include a 3g pitch, onsite grass pitches and offices for our coaching staff, as our training base during the week starting from this coming pre-season in June.
The last few years have seen the geographic challenges in getting players to move to the Highlands become ever harder for a number of reasons.
Caledonian Stadium will always be our home, but other factors in Scottish football have changed and where we train should not be an impediment to the quality of the players we can attract to Caley Thistle, or to our potential to progress.
The commercial success of the city of Inverness – which will always be our home - both as a tourist destination and a place to live, has led to very high prices for the accommodation we require to house players. In addition to these high costs which our competitors do not carry, the extremely limited housing stock in Inverness continues to be both a challenge and a huge factor working against us.
Increased playing budgets in and around the central belt has meant that on many occasions, even when we have offered players more favourable terms than our competitors, sometimes even agreed deals, we have then been told that the player has changed his mind due to challenges relocating their families. Support structures in and around the families of players may all be in and around the central belt, partners will have jobs where they live and moving kids schools to the Highlands and moving home itself can just be seen as impractical for a one or two year contract.
It makes it particularly challenging for us to sign senior players, a category which through no fault of our budget, or of previous ICT Managers, we have struggled to attract in the last few seasons.
Similarly, our location means that we miss out on the opportunity of signing promising players from the larger clubs in Scotland, on loan or otherwise.
For the avoidance of any doubt we absolutely intend to continue to develop our own homegrown Highland boys and we will take the appropriate steps to make sure that by being creative, innovative and practical, they do not miss out on the chance to have a pathway to first team football with their team. We have a proud tradition of introducing local players in to our first team and this will absolutely continue.
We obviously never intended to be in the same division as Kelty when originally exploring this concept, but football throws strange things at you sometimes and having reassessed the proposition and judged that the pros still far outweigh the cons, we would like to thank the Board of Kelty Hearts and MD Stefan Winiarski and his management team for considering this unique to the SPFL partnership, and then seeing and agreeing on the possibilities and benefits for both clubs.
To reiterate, by moving our footballing department's training base to central Scotland, both the club's Board of Directors and the club's First Team Management feel we give ourselves the best possible chance to attract the highest quality players to the club, allowing some of the players we sign to also live in and around the central belt while playing for ICTFC.
We now look forward to taking further positive strides on and off the pitch to address the football and financial challenges we face we believe this exciting opportunity to help us attract players previously not available to us and build a better squad, is one of the first steps we can make and we hope to develop further innovative partnerships.
Inverness is and will always be our home.
The Caledonian Stadium will always be where we play our football. We hope this venture will help us achieve our goal in giving our supporters a team to be proud of.

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The Scottish football podcast is talking about us today. Barry Wilson is a guest. They couldn’t get anyone from club to come on

I can’t get the link to work it’s on bbc sounds 

 

As others have said, fair play to RM for offering to do this and well done to the pod guys.

The Chairman provided a lot of interesting info and came across as very open and honest, no attempt to spin things, just telling it like he sees it, and I think we can all appreciate that even if we don’t agree with him.

I thought, however, that he did a very poor job of explaining/justifying the Kelty move, when he had an opportunity to sell to fans exactly why it is needed or beneficial. He’s not a great communicator, as we already knew. The interview also highlighted that he is not a hands on, close to the detail type of chairman. He clearly relies heavily on others like the CEO, which is unsurprising as he has his own businesses to run full time.

He also confirmed what to me has apparent for a long time, that he would happily step aside if someone else stepped forward. He was basically inviting them to do so.

Therein lies the problem.  He is an absentee chairman who has let Gardiner dictate things.  No-one will step forward to replace him while Gardiner is there so the chairman has one simple task, sack Gardiner and maybe someone will take over. This would also get some fans back onside. 

Sorry but I am a bit of a luddite. Can i only get the latest pod on Twitter? The work you lads have put in to get these published is phenomenal and I for one think they are essential listening. So, is there another way?

9 minutes ago, Naelifts said:

Sorry but I am a bit of a luddite. Can i only get the latest pod on Twitter? The work you lads have put in to get these published is phenomenal and I for one think they are essential listening. So, is there another way?

Podbean app. Also on audible app.

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17 minutes ago, Naelifts said:

Sorry but I am a bit of a luddite. Can i only get the latest pod on Twitter? The work you lads have put in to get these published is phenomenal and I for one think they are essential listening. So, is there another way?

Don't think they release the podcast on 78s unfortunately.

3 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

Anyone who steps forward can just get rid of Gardiner themselves, if they think someone else could do a better job!

Why should someone else carry the cost?

I've not seen anyone doubt RMs passion as a fan but right now he's allowing his loyalty to a friend to override that passion and do harm to the club.

We the fans are not responsible for the money he has put in.  Money that there is nothing to show for.  He has funded the gamble to keep spending on large player wages, a CEO, a sporting director (who's been paid to sit at home for 7 months and was moonlighting on the radio while here), 2 useless managers (one of whom he gave a 2 year deal and then sacked 5 games later and the other that got us relegated), not to mention all the batshit crazy side projects.

He spent his money chasing his vision of the club and now he expects someone else to come in to give him his money back and bail the club out.

He claims that people at the club fully support the idea but people from the club are telling others they knew nothing of it until it was announced.

Cry me a river and float the F U C K  O F F down it.

If he'd spent that money on the stadium and improving the fan experience.  If he'd focused on fan engagement and the basics.  Then I'd still be a ST and willing to chip in a bit more besides.  I suspect others would have as well.

51 minutes ago, Naelifts said:

Sorry but I am a bit of a luddite. Can i only get the latest pod on Twitter? The work you lads have put in to get these published is phenomenal and I for one think they are essential listening. So, is there another way?

No they are all on podbean. That's where I listen. 

The Scottish football pod is on BBC sounds 

thanks old caley girl! STFU    I refuse to entertain the echo chamber

49 minutes ago, STFU said:

Don't think they release the podcast on 78s unfortunately.

No, you can get them on minidisc too.

1 hour ago, robbylad said:

If Ferguson feels he has something to prove,  fair enough. 

Not fair enough. He's trying to prove he's not a complete failure so he can get another job. So far, he's unemployable after two relegations. A promotion might make him saleable again. We've seen enough. Any decent manager would have got us well out of relegation by not playing 5 at the back and a midfield made up of another defender and our leading striker, whilst sidelining Samuels and Rory.

Ferguson was our biggest problem. 

5 hours ago, Jack Waddington said:

Not much else places that Gardiner & Co. will see a sign calling for their heads. Can't imagine they're especially welcome at most city center establishments...

Find out where Gardiner gets his hair cut & stick a poster outside calling for his head. That should make him think twice about going in .. 

Just been doing a wee simple arithmetic exercise. Ross Morrison says we will save £300k by going to Kelty. Given what I spend on season ticket, cup game tickets, sponsorship etc a season multiplied by , say, 700 who are not going to renew season tickets gives approx £500k. Throw in a £100k salary which we don’t need. Problem solved. Just saying…..

1 hour ago, STFU said:

I've not seen anyone doubt RMs passion as a fan but right now he's allowing his loyalty to a friend to override that passion and do harm to the club.

We the fans are not responsible for the money he has put in.  Money that there is nothing to show for.  He has funded the gamble to keep spending on large player wages, a CEO, a sporting director (who's been paid to sit at home for 7 months and was moonlighting on the radio while here), 2 useless managers (one of whom he gave a 2 year deal and then sacked 5 games later and the other that got us relegated), not to mention all the batshit crazy side projects.

He spent his money chasing his vision of the club and now he expects someone else to come in to give him his money back and bail the club out.

He claims that people at the club fully support the idea but people from the club are telling others they knew nothing of it until it was announced.

Cry me a river and float the F U C K  O F F down it.

If he'd spent that money on the stadium and improving the fan experience.  If he'd focused on fan engagement and the basics.  Then I'd still be a ST and willing to chip in a bit more besides.  I suspect others would have as well.

I totally agree but as as mod you should put in a few **** 😜

12 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

I love Alan Savage 💙💙🫣

Where is the confirmed news about Savage? 

27 minutes ago, Robert said:

Who’d have thought on this day 9 years ago where we would be and what we’d be discussing today!

How we’ve fallen in that time. 

I remember sitting in a Glasgow bar that night feeling quite depressed despite what we’d just achieved - I thought this was it, the pinnacle of our achievements, the best we could probably ever be and it would never be quite as good again.

It would have been no surprise to anyone if we didn’t win a major trophy for another decade, or flirt with relegation to the Championship a few times like County, however, I could never have dreamed that we could fall from grace so far, so quickly and so easily. In essence eventually ruined by one selfish, inept and incompetent idiot while others we trusted with the safe running of our club turned their heads the other way.

Ross Morrison has to accept responsibility for his part in allowing Gardiner the freedom to cause so much pain and damage. The evidence is overwhelming, you have an opportunity Ross to take the first steps in putting things right, sack Gardiner now!

No further delays or excuses, just get on with it and maybe you’ll find you come out of this in a far better place than where you find yourself today.

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