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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
So John Collins states as a matter of fact that ICT would have lost being behind and down to ten men. Will someone please send him a DVD of last season's League Cup semi. We are quite capable of winning semi finals whilst down to NINE men and behind and whilst playing in our opponents back yard. What turned the match on Sunday was not one refereeing decision but the hard work, passion and skill of the ICT players especially in the second half and extra time.13 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I am sick to the back teeth of this. Penalty kicks decide games week in, week out and I would take it that the compliance officer will be required to review all such kicks from here on in. The sheer spinelessness of the SFA in this is breathtaking - to respond to an avalanche of criticism that has varied from the measured to the ridiculous by hanging out their officials and a player to dry because they are unable to stand up and follow the spirit of the rules that has always been in place is astounding. The referee is the "sole arbiter of fact" in the rules of the game. His decisions are final. it doesn't matter what you, me, Yogi or Deila think - the referee decides fact. That is the law of the game. This decision relegates referees to being no more than technical advisers to the compliance officer and his panel, who sit extrajudicially and in complete anonymity and therefore open to question. By reason of having this complaint referred to the panel, the compliance officers employers have shown themselves to be complicit in an unprecidented interference in the outcome of a game and for what? Because a big club from their powerbase in Glasgow was beaten by a team who played better on the day, scored more goals and were tactically better. And the best they could muster? wheedling and entitlement ridden complaints of masonic interference, religiously motivated chichanery and a psychotically delusional paranoia about some nebulous "establishment" You couldn't make it up, except that someone has. My club has been in the senior leagues for 21 years and is third in the premiership and in a cup final. The SFA can't (despite continually trying) change that. By all means give us kick off times that our fans can't get to year after year. Give us as many fixtures as you can before major finals. Ignore our matches and don't attend them, and snub our players for international recognition. We will simply keep going. There are implications, apart from the compliance officer ones. How can Josh Meekings be selected for games this weekend (he's in no fit state to play) or on the final day of the season at Parkhead? Is there a case for ICTFC to take legal action against the SFA for indirect discrimination by denying Meekings the right to work when he has breached no rules? Is there a case for ICTFC to decline any ticket allocation for the final game of the season? Is there a case for legitimate protest if or when ( we are fortunate enough) win the cup? Do we ignore the customary handshake of the governing body's representative? Celtic fans are, and I get this completely, upset about the result that went against a team that they felt should have won but they have no idea how a young club with a small fan base feels on reaching their first Scottish Cup final. It's tanished, irrevocably - you couldn't even see us have one day in the sun. As it turns out, despite the tweets last night that wished me deid from celtic "fans" I'm still here. As will Caley Thistle be for a long time to come. Get used to it.12 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Having had 24 hours to consider this now, I believe I am able to be cooler and rational about the whole matter. My considered, cool and rational view is that it is simply absurd and untenable. The process, although not in court, is a quasi judicial one and is thus governed by basic legal principles. The first of these is the matter of precedent. The system of review at the instance of the Compliance Officer has been in place now for four seasons and, in principle, covers all national league, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches. In practice it has related for four years to all matches where there is some TV coverage which is all top tier matches, a good number of second tier matches some lower league games, most League Cup ties and all Scottish Cup ties. By my rough calculation that must be something in the region of two thousand matches so far. I suspect that at least one in twenty of them at some stage involves a contentious handball decision preventing a goal scoring opportunity. So there have probably, over the years, been a hundred or so such incidents caught on camera and the Compliance Officer has never before sought to review a single one of those. Accordingly, there is no precedent for bringing this sort of prosecution. I would go further and suggest that, for very sound and pragmatic reasons, there is actually now a well established precedent for not reviewing these matters. That being the case, in my view, before this gets off first base the Compliance Officer is obliged to show why, in this particular case, he should be departing from established precedent and practice. That has to be a sound and objective reason. The fact that this was very high profile and that the bad losers are making such a hue and cry will simply not suffice. The second legal principal is even more fundamental and is a matter of proof and natural justice. Josh has been charged with preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity by foul and illegal means namely deliberate handball. Firstly there is the question of whether it was a clear goal scoring opportunity. The onus is on the Compliance officer to prove that and there is a great deal of doubt as to whether the ball was heading into the net. Thereafter, Did Josh prevent it ? Preventing a goal scoring opportunity is not an offence in itself. In fact, as a defender, it's Josh's job to prevent goal scoring opportunities and I for one would be pretty upset with him if he didn't. Most crucially, however, is the need to prove that the handball was intentional. In live play proof is not an issue. If, in the opinion of the referee, it is intentional hand ball in these circumstances, a penalty is given and the player is sent to the dressing room. No proof is required it is merely a matter of the referee's discretion and opinion. However, the matter is now in a quasi judicial forum and it has to go far beyond one man's opinion and there has to be proof not just of the handball but of the intent. The onus of proof lies squarely with the Compliance Officer. Josh does not have to prove that the act was unintentional. In fact, Josh has to prove nothing. In all the circumstances, I cannot for the life of me see how Josh can be convicted and suspended on the basis of the evidence available to the tribunal. That said, do I think Josh will be convicted and suspended for the final ? Sadly, yes I do. Not on the basis of objective fairness and application of the law but entirely due to the fact that the paranoid and unsporting hoards in the East End of Glasgow are baying for blood and I am afraid that Josh and ICT will be sacrificed on that alter. Should that happen, as I fear it will, Scottish football will have contrived to hit a new low.10 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
After consultation with interested parties, the Independent three man tribunal has been selected and will consist of Andy Walker, Dr John Reid and Billy McNeill.....6 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
....and a terrible decision by Gordon to race off his line and bring down Watkins, not to mention the tactical car-crash that was Ronnie Delilah taking off Forrest instead of Commons for Gordon! They need to look closer to home for reasons that they lost.6 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
We appear if all reports are correct to be getting a lot of sympathy from all over from other clubs . Would be good if they come along on the day and give us their support and help us on the way to lifting that important piece of silver .Because try as you may Celtic you can't change the fact we are In the final and you're not .Get over it you shower of spoilt brats . High time someone had the balls to put a stop to the hold they have over every decision made whatever Team its against .HEAD UP JOSH WE ALL LOVE YOU AND KNOW YOU ARE NOT A CHEAT !!!!!!!!!6 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
We should all pick one incident each where a decision has gone against Us and write to the compliance officer and ask why the decision was wrongly given. Celtic want a can of worms opened lets fully open it. My letter about the Ofere incident is going in the post this morning, let's se what the compliance officer has to say about that6 points
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Inverness CT -V- Celtic (Cup)
5 pointsThe Day Football Died It was third time lucky for Inverness as they reached their first Scottish Cup final after beating treble chasing Celtic in extra time at Hampden Park. Sadly other events since then have overtaken the wonderful achievements of Yogi and his men. The game was not without controversy. Five goals, penalties, or not penalties, a crucial sending off and a tremendous display by the men from the North was just enough to tip the scales in favour of Inverness Caledonian Thistle. At the end of the day, one song was lingering in the head: It's all about the Ness, no treble! Great weather greeted the fans at Hampden and Inverness were as expected. Ryan Esson replaced the injured Dean Brill. Danny Williams was back in the starting X1 and big Edward Ofere would be the target man. Celtic were without the suspended Anthony Stokes, and Gary Mackay-Stevens and Stuart Armstrong were cup-tied. They did though field a potent attacking threat with Leigh Griffiths and Kris Commons starting with John Guidetti on the bench. From the kick off, Inverness got quickly into their stride and took the game to their more illustrious opponents, moving the ball around with precision and pace. Celtic found it difficult to get a hold of the ball in the first ten minutes as Inverness kept possession without any real threat. That changed though just after ten minutes into the game when Celtic broke forward. Nir Bitton latched onto a loose ball 25 yards out and his sweetly timed tackle/shot smacked off the woodwork with Esson beaten. A bolt from the blue, and a lucky escape for Inverness who had dominated the proceeding thus far. Celtic had woken up and Inverness were pushed onto the back foot as the Glasgow club surged forward. Ryan Esson saved well, diving full length to his left to push away a fierce Griffiths shot from thirty yards. Gary Warren was booked for pulling back James Forrest as he cut across the face of the box, a card that will see him miss a major final once more. From the resultant free kick, Virgil van Dijk lashed an unstoppable shot high past Esson from 22 yards and in off the top of the post. A spectacular opening goal, but there would be better to come. Ofere missed the best chance of the game after a Greg Tansey corner. Similar to his goal against Celtic in the league, the ball broke to him some eight yards out but he could not wrap his foot round it properly and this time his shot bounced down and then up over the bar. A warning to Celtic that we were still in the game. Esson stood up well as Celtic countered through the middle and Johansen stung his palms with a fierce shot that was beaten away, another important save from the stand in keeper. Greg Tansey was mugged on the halfway line as Celtic stormed forward again looking to add a second before the break. Forrest sprinted forward and fed Johansen on the left side of the box. His shot was deflected away from goal by Esson. The ball fell nicely for Griffiths who headed strongly goalwards, but the ball seemed to come of the hand of Josh Meekings who was no more than four feet from the head of Griffiths. Amazingly, the only people that never saw this were the officials who waved play on. I'm not as convinced as Celtic that this was intentional. I'm sure they will write a letter of complaint though. That was about the last action of a frenetic first half and Inverness were still within one goal of the treble chasers. Half Time 0-1 No changes at the break and Inverness started the second period with confidence once more, and Ofere was too high with a corner. At the other end Forrest went wide with a shot that Esson watched carefully. Ten minutes after the break and Inverness drew level. No doubt about the penalty and sending off for Craig Gordon. Watkins raced through on goal outmuscling Welsh international Adam Mathews. As the ball got touched back towards Gordon, Watkins got there first but the big keeper went right through him and red card it was. Tansey remained the coolest man on the park as Lukasz Zaluska put on the gloves. He took his time and waited for the keeper to make his move before directing the ball in the opposite direction and into the vacant net. Game on! James Forrest was the man sacrificed as Celtic made the change at the sending off, a blessing for Inverness and in particular David Raven who had been getting a tough time of it from the Celtic wide player. Could this mean that Raven might get further forward now? More on that later in the report. The ninety minutes produced no more goals and the game moved into extra time. 1-1 after 90 mins The game was now stretched and it ebbed and flowed, Inverness sharing the bulk of the possession. Johansen tried to catch Esson off his line, but he back pedalled and tipped the forty yard flighted shot over the bar. Inverness surged to the other end and Ryan Christie danced his way into the box and it took a fantastic save from the substitute keeper to deny Christie a goal after his thumping 16 yard shot was clawed away. Inverness were now enjoying their best spell of the game and when they worked the ball down the left, the ever willing Graeme Shinnie curled a ball into the box. Watkins brought the ball down and it broke kindly for Ofere, who steadied himself before firing a low ball to the keepers left with sufficient power to find the back of the net. Celtic were stung by this and when they got a free kick thirty yards out it didn't look like it would be a major problem. Guidetti struck it well and the ball whistled goalwards. It landed in front of Esson and he misjudged the bounce as it spun over his despairing arms and into the net. He won't want to see that one again, such a shame after a commanding performance up to that point. The second period of extra time showed that the referee's were once again flawed. Zaluskas barged into the back of Ofere and completely flattened him. I hope the compliance officer was watching. The ball was cushioned down for Nick Ross, but he half volleyed over with the goal gaping. With five minutes of extra time left, Inverness scored the decisive third goal to end Celtic's treble hopes. And what a goal it was too. Nick Ross battled to retrieve the ball outside the Celtic box. Aided by Marley Watkins, Ross got the ball back and threaded a great ball into the box where Shinnie left two defenders standing before rifling the ball across the goalmouth. David Raven made a great run to get on the end of it and still had plenty to do. He did it like a seasoned striker though, guiding the ball firmly into the net for what proved to be the winner before running round the back to celebrate with Shinnie who came round the other side. We played out the remaining minutes fairly comfortably and deservedly won the game, but committed the cardinal sin of denying Celtic Football club the chance to win the treble. AET 3-2 He might be going to Aberdeen, but Graeme Shinnie was captain marvel. He was everywhere and the driving force behind what was a fantastic team effort. He was my MotM and it is pretty unanimous on CTO that he gets the nod. There were no failures in this performance, everyone played their part. Watkins looked revitalised and Warren and Meekings ensured that we restricted Celtic to taking long pot shots. David Raven only scores important goals. His last one for us was in a derby win at Dingwall, this one surpassed that. Ryan Esson was outstanding, despite the blip for the second goal. Edward Ofere led the line well and his hold up play was excellent. Ryan Christie came into the game more after half time and was inspirational. This kid is going places. Can't fault anyone after that display to be honest. Sorry for ruining your treble Remember, you can access audio's with some of the Caley Jags players after the Hampden Park game right here https://www.facebook.com/ICTFC?fref=ts on the Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC facebook page. Scenes of joy at full time would remain with those fans for a couple of days at least before Celtic would write their letter of complaint and the SFA would buckle at the knees by pandering to the needs of the majority. It's now official, the SFA are the laughing stock of football and should hang their heads in shame, brought about by the incompetence of their own officials. Josh Meekings has incredibly been cited by the compliance officer who feels the need to punish him because Celtic can't take defeat without dragging everyone else through the mud. They have short memories and if this goes through, then football, as we know it has just ended. Instead of Inverness enjoying the greatest moment in their history, controversy has overtaken the scenes of joy and instead of celebrating a wonderful performance, it might be better known as the day football died. RIP football, 19/04/2015. Date: 19/04/15 Venue: Hampden Park, Glasgow Attendance: 28643 Referee: Steven McLean Inverness CT: 3 Lineup: Esson, Raven, Shinnie, Meekings, Warren, Draper, Tansey, Watkins, Williams (Ross 73), Christie, Ofere Subs (not used): Mackay, Vincent, Doran, Tremarco, Polworth, Kink Scorers: Tansey (pen.58), Ofere (96), Raven (117) Booked: Warren (17), Williams (66), Ross (102), Watkins (105) Sent Off: none Celtic: 2 Lineup: Gordon, Matthews, Izaguirre, Van Dijk, Denayer, Biton, Brown, Commons (Tonev 90), Johansen, Forrest (Zaluska 56), Griffiths (Guidetti 98) Subs (not used): Ambrose, Scepovic, McGregor, Tierney Scorers: Van Dijk (17), Giudettit (103) Booked: Brown (20), Tonev (97) Sent Off: Gordon (55)5 points
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Song for Final?
5 pointsYou put your right arm in. Your right out, in, out, in out, You put the Celtic out, You do the Josh Meekings and Turn around, We put the Celtic out, out, out.5 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
The defence case has to be cast-iron now, and no way can the ban be upheld: 1. Boyce's intervention on behalf of FIFA stating that it is wrong. 2. Smith - former SFA Chief Executive stating it is wrong. 3. Copious examples of similar incidents that have not been acted on (presumably the lawyers are busy collating a mass of video evidence). 4. The absolute impossibility of proving intentionality when the ball is headed from around a yard away and Josh has his eyes closed. If the SFA pander to Celtic and uphold the ban in these circumstances they will become a global laughing stock. Of course, Celtic could raise their reputation a little out of the sewer over this by writing to the SFA requesting the ban be lifted - but that's probably too much to hope for.4 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I can't see us winning this, purely because the SFA are running scared of celtic. I can see the club winning if they take the matter further afterwards tho - such as to UEFA and/or the Court of Arbitration for Sport. I'm glad we are fighting this and we should make sure we do not give up. How badly will the players feel fired up for the rest of the season now tho?!4 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Celtic's actions are extremely biased because they think that who they are entitles them not only to special treatment but the sentiment that this treatment will be given to them and that, in their opinion, this is only natural justice and therefore an extreme likelihood. Favorable terms is therefore an expected foregone conclusion in their minds. If it does then there is undoubtedly a cancer in Scottish Football that needs drastic action to have it excised once and for all. Have you heard a single word out tof Celtic's Management to the effect that ICT worked very hard and justly deserved their win? So they lower themselves into the gutter to gain a small advantage that only serves to undermine the fact that the difference in size and wealth between them and us is so great as to suggest that kicking them completely out of the league would be a just reaction and of benefit to all other teams in Scotland. If all the other teams refused to play them it would rock Scottish Football to it's foundations and certainly put these two teams into bankruptcy and oblivion. Success has gone to their heads and now represents a pain in the Irish, little else. They owe all their wealth and power to all the fans in Scotland who have come to matches involving them and they are coming very close to losing all sympathy they have around the league by this stupid and precipitate decision. They would then have to crawl to the English FA and would end up in a lowly League and have to fight their way back into the limelight if they lost total support. I am extremely angry at the pettiness and lack of wisdom in this action. All it serves to do is alienate other fans and clubs and show them up to be very sore losers --the only team in the world who ever had unfair treatment , good, bad or indifferent meted out to them. WOW--what big news, eh? Instead of sucking it up and getting on with it they act ungraciously and in a self-serving manner. Only Ronnie Deila has had the grace and class to speak a good word about ICT as far as I can determine. When you think of the colossal energy output made by ICT to allow them to get to this incredible position and set that against all the wealth and power that Celtic mustered and yet they FAILED miserably when the chips were down, one can only be embarrassed for them . It would do Scottish Football Premier League a lot of good if we terminated both their membership and that of Rangers F.C who undoubtedly shared their views when they were in the same league. Both teams are over privileged and over dominant and both have a sense of lofty, unearned entitlement that belies their usefulness and their ranking in the hearts of the true Scottish football fan. They need to be taken down a peg and I fondly hope that Caley Thistle shows in the FINAL that THEY, and they alone, deserve to win the cup by more fantastic play, skill, effort and heart.4 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
This is appeasement of the worst sort of conspiracy theorising bigots who have been flooding social media since Sunday. It is incredibly weak of the SFA to look for a scapegoat to throw to these people, while undermining their own officials without actually blaming them. It is the worst sort of fudging in order to satisfy the mob, and will only worsen their own reputation. But the worst aspect of it all is who thought they could justify this under the current rules, and what kind of precedent it sets. If this stands, then any game in the future, particularly those involving the largest supports, will be subject to media storms and campaigns to have decisions rescinded. If there are some wiser heads at the SFA than these panicked functionaries, they will hope that this decision is overturned. Otherwise the future is hysterical media lynch mobs set to overturn any decisions they don't like. The SFA should back the referee, and point out that they can't change a decision made in good faith based on the evidence available to him at the time. Whether you like it or not is immaterial, if he felt that Josh didn't deliberately raise his hand to stop the ball, then that is his decision, and one the SFA should back, making clear the already established laws of the game, and the restriction of appeals and retrospective punishments to incidents not seen by the referee, and only serious ones which are unambiguous in their intent. None of the criteria apply to the Meekings case, and they should drop it before they do further damage to the game.4 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
This is the strongest petition online at the minute with circa 4500 sigs. If you haven't signed do so here. https://www.change.org/p/scottish-football-association-withdraw-the-notice-of-complaint-issued-against-josh-meekings3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Yes, but if the SFA have any sense, they will realise they have to listen to other bodies in the game, since this decision could have repercussions outside of Scotland. So they have a responsibility to the wider game and the way it is officiated. Which is why I think they should back off, now that the reactions are almost universally negative to their brainstorm. Even though it is a national association, they have to keep in step with other associations in order to preserve some coherent structure to the game and how it is run. Otherwise we are going to get different laws for the same game in different countries. How are they going to police European and international games with fundamental differences like that?3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I was thinking that was the case as well, but here is the response from one of the Terrace Podcast guys... "I think that comes under the 'didn't see it' aspect. I think it extends to interpreted wrong." "that's why Jason Talbot was cited for Nicholson (kicked in head) challenge. Ref booked him at the time, but didn't said he didn't realise severity" Then surely every games has to be re-refereed the following day to make sure the officials saw what actually happened.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Please, please, please let there be a contentious handball in the area by a Celtic palyer against Dundee tonight...letters of complaint, compliance officers, retrospective bans - bring 'em on!3 points
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venue for Scottish Cup final
3 pointsWould it not be great if the final venue was switched to Parkhead ?3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Or, make him captain in the last league game at Celtic Park. That will really get them going! Mind you, there will be precious few ICT fans there to watch the fun. I can't imagine, after the way Celtic have acted, that many of us will darken their door again.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
The problem with precedents is that someone has to set them - the outcome of this appeal will certainly do that whichever way it falls. Celtic should now be scrutinised by EVERY other club in the league and as soon as ANY of their players do something that could prompt a complaint, the opposition team must feel obliged to do so. It's only in the pursuit of justice, after all. It reminds me of the old curse: be careful what you wish for, as it may just come true.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Sometimes JH's enthusiasm for being fair to the opposition gets a bit much. We're certainly not getting anything like that degree of respect from Celtic.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
It makes me wonder what Celtic are trying to do. This would possibly open a can of worms, as they are the football club in Scotland who receive the most favorable decisions from Refs making simple mistakes. Did Celtic not get a favorable decision in an earlier round, when its been agreed that one of there scorers on Sunday had dived to get a decision that influenced the result of the match against Hearts. That player should have been banned and therefore Celtic would have broken rules in playing a banned player. Or is it the result went there way so no need for the SFA complience officer. Also did the ref not consult with the Assistant behind the goal, who responded saying he thought it hit Meekings head. Ref then made his decision on what they saw, discussed incident, waved play on as the could not say he deliberately handled the ball. John Collins quote re his hand ball on text 136 or near that also shows double standards, When he did it it was ok but its not if anyone does it against his team. The one thing that reeks from this is how Celtic cannot take a defeat graciously. They congratulate ICT on our victory, but want us banned and replaced by themselves as it was destiny, Sorry Celtic, this was our day and its our destiny.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
First of all I hadn't realised Warren was banned for the final for a second yellow...seems grossly unfair, I thought the Scottish Cup fas the SFA's flagship competition, strange they are so keen to stop players from taking part, given that a) yellow cards can be given out for very minor misdemeanours and b) Scottish refs are worse than English for the confetti like way they dish them out As for Josh Meekings, it would be gutting if he were also to miss the final, on the basis that the officials may have made a mistake,..... the SFA need to prove his actions were deliberate, as he can certainly be seen attempting to head the ball away. As to Celtic and their whining, whinging response, and abuse tweets.....it's to be expected, they are on the whole, arrogant bigotted twats. I hope the SFA and the SPFL will be watching the next league meeting between us very closely for evidence of retribution. Yogi....said on Sunday, he didn't like the idea of going to the final as favourites....the worse case scenario of both Warren and Meekings missing the final certainly evens things up a bit....but hopefully will spur the lads on as well3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Everyone seems to be of the opinion that the ref didn't see it. The ref did see something. He then consulted with goal judge. Outcome we're not sure if it was deliberate. And thatis the crux of the whole arguement. Was it deliberate. Personally I dont think so. I think Josh gets into a position to try and head the ball. Griffiths gets to it first. There is no way on this earth that anyone would have the reflexive action required, at such close range, to react in a deliberate manner. Therefore the outcome has to be that it was not deliberate therefore not a foul and certainly not a sending of. McLean did no wrong either. He acted exactly as his superiors teach. If in doubt dont penalise. The people who are very much in the wrong in all this are the people in the ivory tower of Hampden. They are miffed that a bigger team is not in the final. They are miffed that their payday is not going to be so big. Why else would they succumb to the pressure of one Scottish football club over another. Why else would they not act as a neutral agent but instead side with the big Glasgow club. The big problem, and one thats going to kill the game, in Scottish football is that for too many years the people in the ivory towers have lined their own pockets at the expense of the provincial clubs and the fans. Nobody has the balls to challenge them. Its high time that club chairmen got themselves organised and started to question the powers of the select few. Its high time this whole game in Scotland was taken by the short and curlies and given a real good shake up.3 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Congratulations to all at Celtic. Glad you'll all be so happy to rob a young lad of what will probably be the highlight of his career. All because you've not won every trophy in one season. Selfish, embarrassing and completely classless.3 points
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FC United of Manchester
2 pointsBeat Stourbridge last night 1-0 and our now Champions of the Northern Prem. They will now be promoted to the Conferance North. Delighted for my 'other' team and a nice few days for me. Oh.....IHE and Chorley, we're coming for you!2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I don't see what Celtic have got to do with the decision what so ever. Will Celtic be really bothered if Meekings is banned or not... I highly doubt it. The decision means nothing to them. It's the SFA trying to cover their backsides for their appalling officiating and I'm glad the likes of FIFA and Gordon Smith etc have been throwing in their comments today I honestly can't see how the SFA can uphold the ban when the hearing comes round tomorrow.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
That's not what he's been charged with though. He's been charged with denial of a (clear) goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. The whole last man thing doesn't even exist in the laws of the game.2 points
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venue for Scottish Cup final
2 pointsNO NO NO - never again give ANY money to them, never never never.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Good find, Davie! Need to get this widely circulated. With any luck it will tee the SFA up for ridicule should the verdict go the wrong way tomorrow, which will help to fuel the fire and (hopefully) keep the club keen on pursuing the issue. Edit - It's OK - BBC have got hold of this now, so there should be good coverage.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/04/22/uk-soccer-scotland-inverness-idUKKBN0ND1FP201504222 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
That's not correct. The interpretation of the rule is not simply seeing the ball and putting your arm in the way, it is also placing your arm such that you widen your profile and make it more likely that the ball will hit your arm. There is no doubt that Josh is going for the ball with his head but the SFA could argue that he was also deliberately holding his hand in an unnatural position thereby increasing the chance of the ball hitting it. They would need to prove this and I don't think they can. Yes his hand was raised, but I would argue that is just a natural movement of the arm consistent with the rest of the body movement in trying to throw his body in front of the ball. I am not Dundee Utd's lawyer but I would have thought trying to prove intent was far more difficult in Josh's case than in that of Ciftci's off the ball assault on Garry Warren.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I am (naively) assuming that the compliance officer only gets involved if the incident does not appear in the ref's report and is therefore deemed to have been missed by the officials at the time. This is the only way the SFA/officials' stories can stack up. So, McLean and Muir will presumably say that their views were obscured and Muir will have to stick to his alleged story that he thought it hit Josh's face/head. The case for the defence therfore has to centre on the deliberate nature of the action. The close proximity is one aspect; the other is the head movement towards the ball, the eyes closed expecting impact, which clearly point to an attempt by Josh to head it. To deliberately handle it, he'd need to be looking at the ffffing thing! You could even argue that Muir's misconception that it hit Josh's head was driven by the player's movement with that intent. The Mail's poll is 75% in favour of the charge being dropped.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I gave you a like for that one even though there is no-one other than Shinnie that gets the armband that day. Hopefully his last act as an ICT player is to lift the cup2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
If the outcome is in our favour, we should make Josh captain in the final. Imagine how many TV screens would be kicked in in the East end of Glasgow as TV shows him leading the boys out. There'll be riots if he then goes on to lift the trophy!!2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Grunching, but would this be the first time in football history that a player was retrospectively suspended for handball? If so, WTF? If ever there was a case of placating the mob, this is it. I don't know who is more spineless: Celtic FC for pandering to the most toxic segment of their support by writing that ridiculous letter, or the SFA for granting them their pound of flesh. The media also deserves criticism for their coverage. Their entire focus has been upon Celtic and their victimhood narrative, rather than the real story - how a team with just a small fraction of Celtic's budget, only 20 years in existence, branded relegation favourites this season by the bookies, has just made history reaching their first ever Scottish Cup Final. A team consisting of homegrown youngsters and free signings from the Vauxhall conference, managed by a coach who most of Scottish football had written off - blew the Scottish Champions away with a display of Guardiola-esque passing football. The brilliant performances of Graeme Shinnie and Ryan Christie. These should have been the stories. They virtually write themselves. Not all this constant Old Firm p1sh. Hopefully this ridiculous, vindictive charge is written off ASAP. I don't see how it can't be. You'd be opening a whole can of worms. How many players would you have to suspend in a season? If every handball in the box is fair game, then what else? Where do you draw the line? How can you get away with taking action against Meekings, but none of the other handballs that have occurred this season? It's completely untenable. When it's all said and done, this might even work in our favour. It could galvanize and motivate the players. The old fashioned 'siege mentality'. I would absolutely love it if Yogi came out and absolutely lambasted Celtic and the powers that be. He'd have the whole (rest) of Scottish football behind him.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
From the BBC website "Celtic - who later had goalkeeper Craig Gordon sent off by referee Steven McLean - wrote to the SFA to ask why Meekings was not dismissed and a penalty awarded. BBC Scotland understands that Celtic will receive a reply acknowledging that the match officials made a mistake." Does this mean they have already decided on the outcome of Thursday's hearing? Just when you think the SFA can't get any more incompetent they somehow manage to plumb even greater depths of ineptitude. This is actually also an unwarranted slur on their own officials. Even if a penalty offence was committed, if the positioning of the officials was such that they could not be certain that the offence was committed then they were quite correct not to award the penalty. There is a difference between not being in position to make the right decision and making a mistake.2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I have a strong feeling if the tables were turned and it was a Celtic player that handballed there would be no letters sent and not nearly enough outrage. The compliance officer certainly wouldn't have gotten involved2 points
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Graeme Shinnie
2 pointsRecognition for Shinnie as one of Richard Wilsons POY contenders Graeme Shinnie (Inverness Caledonian Thistle) Apps: 32 Goals: 2 A modern-day full-back who is just as comfortable surging upfield to join in attacks as he is in carrying out his defensive duties. Shinnie is as skilful and elusive as a winger, and his crossing provides a regular supply of chances for his teammates. He is increasingly sound as a defender, but at his most composed and exhilarating on the ball, not least because his manager John Hughes urges both of his full-backs to try to overwhelm opposition teams on the flanks. Shinnie is athletic and industrious, with enough stamina to continually run up and down the left flank, combining defence and attack. He has grown in composure, experience and influence, persuading Aberdeen to sign him on a pre-contract agreement. He will be sorely missed by Inverness. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32405658?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter2 points
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venue for Scottish Cup final
2 pointsHave heard from loads of neutrals who intend to try to attend the match. I think the actual turnout could surprise people. And perhaps this at last is the occasion that could empty Tesco etc on a Saturday afternoon and energise Inverness around their team. The club, the sponsors, the players and most of all the supporters have to get out and about and persuade people that this is the event we believe it is.2 points
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Song for Final?
2 pointsWe could bemuse the global TV audience and revive one of my favourite chants from when we were regulars at the Falkirk Stadium, "I'd rather have a monster than a wheel!"2 points
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
Watching the livi/hibs game. 2 yellow cards already dished out for handballs. Looks like septic has really opened a can of worms here. Although i wonder if the compliance officer will be looking at it tomorrow seeing as how the livi player was inside the penalty box and a free kick was given outside the box??????1 point
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
This is my first comment for a long time but like everyone else on here can't believe this decision. Just heard John Collins on news staing that if they had been given the decision they would have won Says who John ??? It's like dealing with kids in the playground .Why do Celtic think they have the God given right to win everything ? I attend all home and away games and if this decision is not overturned God help the refs because I can honestly say their are decisions missed at every game and this is going to open the floodgates like they have never been opened before. Now I think as fans we have all to get fully behind our team and give them all the support we can because in the end of the day we are going to Hampden and Celtic are not. The SFA have just proved what we all suspected how they don't want teams from the Highlands In the League . This is such a sad situation and Josh is not a nasty player it would be criminal if he misses the biggest game of his career.With that in mind I would be more than happy to make a donation to the Club to with the cost of this appeal .If anyone knows how this can be arranged please advise .1 point
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Compliance Officer / Justice for Meekings
I think we all know who is to blame here - Ross P for raising this issue in the first place. Get him banned from CTO!1 point
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Inverness CT -V- Celtic (Cup)
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