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  1. What a knob. Basically he's not happy because we don't conduct our dealings in public in the way the tabloids would want us to. They'd also love us to get into a war of words with Aberdeen, which I'm sure we have no desire to do. All of us would like to know what happened here, but in a case like this it's actually very difficult for ICT to make a statement that answers the questions without going into confidential and commercially sensitive contractual details, which ought to remain private.
    4 points
  2. Ok, so I've just logged in and caught up on this thread. I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed in a lot of the posts. First of all let me make it clear, I wasn't at the game in Stirling, nor was I at the CJT board meeting which followed as I was away, so I'm not going to get into the rights and wrongs of what happened and who said what. What I will say is that having a little information I am really saddened by some of the posts in this thread. Not even the posts of the young people who feel they did nothing wrong, but the people who jumped on the bandwagon and should have known better. Do you for 1 minute believe that the CJT board members in attendance would have a problem with singing and having fun? These people are comitted to home and away games and much more while holding down full time jobs, family comittments etc into the bargain. I know a few of them who are really hurt by many of the comments. We are arranging to meet the boys on Friday night to discuss the events of the day and identify what is and isn't acceptable behaviour. We are also happy to hear from them and what concerns and points they would like to raise. Please note that this meeting is primarily for those who travelled on the bus to Stirling I would hope to be able to post a better update when I am more aware of the facts and what the general feeling is on Friday night. I hope that some of the people with strong feeling will consider standing for election at the upcoming AGM.
    4 points
  3. I see a statement has been released from ICT now, stating that Greg wanted to stay. If that is the case then it certainly explains a lot. I'm not at all convinced by that though, I'd be very angry at my own manager if he's lied about the whole " The player was eager to join us " spiel. I suppose at the end of the day, he's still an ICT player and that's literally all that matters now. In any case, I am signing off for good this time, again, very best of luck for the rest of the season and hope you all have a good night, apart from you obviously IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER ;)
    3 points
  4. Sorry bughmaster, but that statement there is a bit far fetched. In what way have Aberdeen acted without dignity? McInnes was asked a question, or several actually, about the whole ordeal, and he answered, he also publicly said that he'd spoken to John Hughes, who was happy with the way we conducted the deal, he wouldn't make that up, especially the talking to Hughes part knowing that Hughes would get wind of it, and your manager is not the type to let a lie go, is he, he is a passionate man that cares about his club and it's supporters and takes zero bullsh!t. I'd also like to point out that McInnes found out that we could actually put the money together on the Friday, but didn't want to disrupt ICT's match preparation for the Saturday, and it was only after he was made aware that your game was cancelled, he tabled the offer, on Saturday, I would say that's actually pretty respectful and certainly dignified. I can only speak for myself here as well, but to say we are envious is also a bit far fetched, I'm over the moon that ICT have had success over the years, and I've always enjoyed the brand of football you play & the difficult fixtures we always seem to have, there is never much in the games, long may it continue. I completely respect and appreciate that this is a bit of a bad time, given the circumstances of this saga, but I draw the line at ridiculous statements like that.
    3 points
  5. Paranoid nonsense, maybe Aberdeen and their manager are in league with Barry Wilson to do us down....
    3 points
  6. This just gets more and more bizarre! It appears that Tansey has parted company with his agent, Rob Shield from Evolve Sports Management. Certainly, he's removed his contact details from his Twitter. Below are screenshots from today and an 'archive' from Sunday 31st. I wondered if he represented any other ICT players and a spot of Googling revealed he does indeed - James Vincent and Danny Williams!! There's something going on here...
    3 points
  7. That's a little disingenuous! The run to the League Cup Final in 2014 was/is an historic achievement and one of the indelible marks in this club's history. The extraordinary, 9-man, last-gasp comeback equaliser and eventual victory against Hearts in Edinburgh is one of the most memorable games for many fans. Check back at the Matchday Threads for that game, the Final and the build up - it was a huge deal (You actually used the word 'proud' in one such thread). To now dismiss those occasions and the achievement of our players, as 'mickey mouse', smacks of petty jealousy at Ross County.
    3 points
  8. Hi, Cambridge fan here and just want to say you are getting one heck of a player and a top fella. The press are listing Liam as an attacking midfielder but he has played just about every position for us. I'd say his best position is a deep lying centre mid or centre def. As his record shows he isn't a massive goal scorer but he has great creativity can certainly pick a pass to unlock a defence. Not afraid to get stuck in and mix it when he has to but certainly not dirty in anyway. He's tall and we regularly put him up against tall strikers when defending corners or goal kicks and he won a LOT more than he lost. He's got a good engine and as you've seen from the video has a shot on him like a kicking horse. We really don't understand the logic in letting him go. He's been a stalwart for the last 2-3 years but a new manager has come in and bombed him & a few others straight out of the team without ever looking at them in a game and replaced them with a number of untried premier league youngsters, none of whom are setting the world alight. One thing you really will get from him is a real connection with the fans, he'll always be happy to have photos taken or sign autographs. Any kids that ask him will get asked if they play, what position etc and he gives a real sense of being genuinely interested in their answers. I hope you enjoy him, he will always get a fantastic welcome from us for the opening goal in our playoff final at Wembley in 2014 that ended 9 years of non league wilderness. Keep an eye out for a U's shirt or two popping up as I've already heard of several people planning a weekend away.
    3 points
  9. 3 Feb 2016 Johnny Hayes in tonight's 2-1 victory for Aberdeen against Celtic
    2 points
  10. So, another twist. Tyrone Smith from STV has just tweeted a statement from Greg's agents. They say that they have an excellent relationship with ICT and Greg is very happy here. They've also stated that they've never considered legal action v ICT. Then the interesting bit - the statement also says that 3rd parties acting outside SFA and FIFA regulations are being looked at. Reads as though a 3rd party tried to broker a deal without ICT's or Greg's agents knowledge.
    2 points
  11. SP It's Doofer's Dad. I don't know how many Doofers there are out there, but before Doofer's Mum gets the rolling pin out, I can assure you I have only fathered one of them!
    2 points
  12. If it's true that Tansey decided to stay then that's incredible. Loyalty is hard to come by in football and I applaud him.
    2 points
  13. I think it is pretty well accepted that Aberdeen only really turned their attention to Tansey once they were pipped by Hearts to the signature of Don Cowie.
    2 points
  14. As a well educated man, I'm sure you are well aware that singing on a supporters bus would hardly constitute a bus suspension.
    2 points
  15. Gellions bus for Dundee away on 27th February is booked. It was just games now and then they would do before but looking to make it a regular thing. Get a supporters club going. Looking for names for it. Would be good if all the boys who were on the cjt bus move over to the Gellions one now permanently. Singing and having fun is encouraged!
    2 points
  16. Apparently it was in the contract small print that the £200,000 release clause could only be validly triggered by an offer from a club that has won the Scottish Cup within the last 25 years.
    2 points
  17. Evening all, hope you're well. Just popped on to see if any of you are in the know as to why Tansey didn't sign? Just watched our manager on RedTV there, spoke openly about of all this, saying he can't understand why Tansey isn't an Aberdeen player, said he spoke to John Hughes this morning, who's in agreement that Aberdeen acted with integrity and never went behind anyone's back etc.... He said we definitely offered 200k up front, which activated Tansey's release clause, the player himself was eager to join, but something prevented the actual deal going through. There isn't an issue with the release clause being triggered or made public, as it was an agent that ICT as a club use in general, that made us aware of it. I'm not here to give abuse or receive it guys, I completely understand your anger at the whole issue, given that we've signed a few players from yourselves in recent times, but surely you agree that this whole saga has been rather bizarre.
    1 point
  18. No. I don't buy it. The statement says that Tansey "elected" to stay and thanked him for his "integrity, honesty and loyalty to the club". When you think about it, this is very strange language to use. If the agent acted without Tansey's knowledge then you can be sure that Tansey was made aware of what was going on as soon as anybody on this forum got wind. If he didn't want a move to Aberdeen then he would have been on to his agent and the club in a flash and any "deal" would have been dead early in the day. However, if the agent's approach to Aberdeen was an inappropriate approach, then when the club met Tansey later in the day to try and persuade him to stay, Tansey might have revealed information which made it clear that his agent had acted inappropriately. After all, if the club was aware of any inappropriate action on behalf of the agent then negotiations would have stalled at the initial offer. Tansey might have told the club that his agent knew he would be interested in a move to Aberdeen if it meant more money but was not aware any approach was in any way inappropriate. The club may well have told him that in the light of the inappropriate nature of the approach, a deal was not really on or they may simply have offered Tansey a bit more dosh to stay. My scenario fits the wording the club used in their statement. It doesn't say that Tansey wants to stay, it says he elected to stay. And if it was a question of his agent acting without his knowledge, why would the club statement make any reference to his integrity and honesty? If he wanted to stay and his agent was playing silly beggars, what on earth would he have to be honest about! And if he had been persuaded by his agent to go along with an approach which (perhaps without Tansey being aware) was against the rules, then part of the persuading him to stay may have been the very sound advice to get shot of the agent. My take on this is that Tansey would like a move to a bigger club but was persuaded to stay on this occasion. I would also think that Tansey may have seen his agent's activity as flying a kite to an extent and that he is actually perfectly happy to stay here for the time being. Hopefully his form for the rest of the season will mean that any offers in the summer will be more substantial than Aberdeen's.
    1 point
  19. 1 point
  20. The ICT statement doesn't really clear anything up, not that I was expecting it to, in fact it probably raises more questions than people had before. Bit of a shambles all round really.
    1 point
  21. not sure if I am putting 2+2 and making 5 but based on the various bits of info (rumour?) floating around perhaps its a case of the agent touting the player without his knowledge or agreement? That would fit the comments made up to now and does not then make McInnes or ICT liars .....
    1 point
  22. The statement is indeed ridiculous. There is a healthy rivalry between the clubs. We do have a natural resentment that you tend to nick our best players but most of us recognise that were the positions reversed and we were able to double your player's wages the traffic along the A96 would be in the opposite direction and is simple commercial reality. Finally, although your club were a bit heavy on the rent, most of us recognise that we would not have been able to take up our place in the top league were it not for the Dons offering to share Pittodrie and many of us remain grateful for it. I would hope that the ill informed nonsense spouted by ignorant Weegie based journalists does nothing to sour what have been generally good relations. Good luck tonight against Celtic and give us a proper title challenge at long last. You will need those three points as you will not be leaving Inverness with any later in the month.
    1 point
  23. Surely Alex's comments are a bit tongue in cheek and it's just because it's County showing us up on a rare occasion that's made him say that.
    1 point
  24. Rob Shields is the agent whose network have some sort of connection to the club. It was he who used to offer the players that Terry Butcher used to send Steve Marsella down south to watch.
    1 point
  25. Butcher had many more English connections bound to make a difference.
    1 point
  26. How exactly are Keith Jackson and his Daily Record colleagues 'friends' of our club? Respect is earned. If you want stories handed to you on a plate you could at the very least make the effort to build a relationship with people at our club rather than sitting at your desk in Glasgow acting like we don't even exist. Journalism 101.
    1 point
  27. That would be the Daily Retard who largely ignore us but devote 90% of their sports pages to Celtic and the lower league team that replaced Rangers. That would be Keith Jackson the 'journalist' who once described Craig Whyte as 'billionaire with wealth off the scale' and confidently hailed him as the saviour of his beloved Rangers. I agree that the club could very often handle communications better but why on earth should we give some sort of scoop to a poor apology for a journalist telephoning or emailing from the comfort of his office on the banks of the Clyde who think so little of the Highlands that they have no sports reporter based there ? How does he know that there is a 'tsunami of bad feeling' between the clubs when all Aberdeen have said is that they are confused and disappointed not to get their man and we've said nothing at all ? I note from another thread that Greg has removed the link in his Twitter account to his agent, or perhaps former agent, could it just be that the player himself holds the agent responsible rather than either of the clubs. If, as reported,there was an ambiguity in the contract surely it was the agent's job to ensure that the contract was drafted in such a way that there ought to have been no such confusion.
    1 point
  28. Good luck to Ross County in the final. I am a bit more relaxed on my view whether they win games or not now since we have set the bar so high already with last years venture. Before that I desperately wanted us to be the first highland team to achieve a cup win and a Euro adventure...and we did.
    1 point
  29. Now the west coast media want to write about us, clearly winning the scottish cup and having plaudits about our stlye of play last season dont do anything for football journalists compared to creating some kind of immature celebrity type trash tv war of words. Clearly a credible football source to care about.
    1 point
  30. I agree but there should be at least an acknowledgement to a request for info. A short response along the lines you say would be appropriate - without the "knob" bit.
    1 point
  31. I would have thought that Jackson would have been delighted that we'd gone off the radar.
    1 point
  32. Delighted Tansey is still here but a totally bizarre situation. Seems we have ruffled a few feathers with this saga. Clarification from the club would be nice to clear our name but seems its not just Aberdeen confused by what happened:
    1 point
  33. The Gellions bus - Jut what these youngsters need - Role Models
    1 point
  34. Why did we sign Ryan Williams (a virtually identical player to Tansey by all accounts and youtube) if we planned to keep Tansey? ... and given midfield is where we are clearly so lacking in options? ;)
    1 point
  35. Can you please stop these made-up rumours? It's getting embarrassing.
    1 point
  36. I agree that we don't come out of this looking good. But I believe Aberdeen perhaps should have shown us more respect. Not content with taking Shinnie, then failed attempts for Watkins and Draper. They have had the entire month of January to complete a deal for Tansey but waited till 12 hours before the window shut to put in an offer. In full knowledge we wouldn't have time to adequately replace him. I think we were more than dignified last summer with our captain/best player leaving to join them, our direct rivals, for free. Reading between the lines we've thrown our toys from the pram this time. But I do believe Aberdeen have shown a lack of respect to us with the very poor timing of the offer.
    1 point
  37. My son was meant to be on bus 3 but slept in. We would be very interested in joining gellions buses and were hoping to go to Motherwell but I'm not sure what to make of this. It's a thankless task organising things but I know a lot of the young fans fairly well and consider them committed and a real asset to the club. £20 for a bus add ticket and food etc and it's a pretty expensive and long day so fair play to them for supporting their local team. This will hopefully all come to an amicable and successful conclusion.
    1 point
  38. Agree with most of that. I'd be interested to know why Aberdeen were meeting with the agent of one of our players and discussing transfer fees and release clauses when they had made no formal approach to us. EDIT: Don't know why some posters chose to be wankerish to a fan of another team. Seemed a fairly innocent question albeit at a time when peoples backs might be up.
    1 point
  39. Fair point Alex MacLeod, and I agree with your last sentence entirely. I'll leave you all in peace now, apologies if I've ruffled anyone's feathers, was never my intention. Very best of luck for the rest of the season guys & girls (Except when playing us) and hope you all have a good night.
    1 point
  40. This photo could actually have been taken on the Caleyjagsforever bus on their way to Mosset Park,Forres in a pre season friendly a couple of years ago The very same day they were baking cakes on the bus prior to the game and that folks is a true story Dougal
    1 point
  41. Next week the Tansey about turn.
    1 point
  42. Time now to concentrate on getting those the gaffer wants signed up.
    1 point
  43. 1 point
  44. Gellions Bus at 1700 on Saturday
    1 point
  45. What a can of worms! Who knows how this will end, but I'm sure it isn't over and I've got a horrible feeling that we'll end up being on the losing end somehow. Fingers crossed, ICT got their facts right and stood their ground legitimately and it was Aberdeen who were squarely in the wrong. I share some of Sir C the 3rd's concerns about the way football is set up and the apparent conflict between maintaining a competitive league and upholding employment law. As somebody mentioned earlier, in what other walk of life is compensation required at all for an employee moving jobs? And why only for 2 short periods during the year? Could this be challenged by a player at some point (Bosman take 2)? Ultimately, despite the efforts of the football authorities to try to maintain some semblance of compensation for clubs that develop and nurture players, the truth is that in the Scottish climate only the biggest clubs can afford (or pretend to afford in one case!) to pay transfer fees and most of the market is on "frees". Small clubs like ours face a terrible dilemma for every player - cash in bofore their contract is up and risk getting less than market value or get the best from the player for as long as possible and lose him on a free to a club that can afford higher wages? What this means is that small clubs that raise their heads above the parapet can only ever be a flash in the pan - I feel the burn, I'm afraid.
    1 point
  46. I find the hatred towards Ross County as fake manufacturing. We have a rivalry with them from being the only teams close by and nothing more.
    1 point
  47. I seriously doubt that there is an agenda against the young guys using CJT nor is using it as an 'attention seeking statement'. Its very easy to side with the young lads when the full story isn't published. Like I said, I'm defending CJT over posters like you giving them unwarranted abuse when they put their heart and soul into the group.
    1 point
  48. I notice some others have had a go at Pat Nevin, and quite rightly so. At one point he said something like 'if it stays eleven against eleven, Celtic are gonnae win.' I seem to remember in the highlights programme after the Big Cup semi final, he said almost exactly the same about our win over Celtic, referring, of course, to Craig Gordon's sending off. Bitter and repetitive, it seems.
    1 point
  49. Dont let the truth get in the way of a good thread!!!!
    1 point
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