first banning order for ICT??

[davieB]

How can he banned from anywhere when he hasn't even been charged with anything?? This really is a joke, there'll be no fans left in the stadiums soon.

I wonder how many fans were thrown out for gesticulating at the opposition during the OF game today?

[Scotty]

There has been talk of a court case in December so I assume he WAS charged with breach of the peace

[davieB]

Fair enough aye, but he's not been found guilty of anything yet. So by banning him from away grounds then they're handing out punishments for cases that haven't even been proven yet.

[maimie]

Fair enough aye, but he's not been found guilty of anything yet. So by banning him from away grounds then they're handing out punishments for cases that haven't even been proven yet.

just for interest a few quotes from another Scottish football site....

This paragraph from today's SUNDAY HERALD suggests that being filmed by plod may be a very big deal indeed under McConnell's new banning order legislation:

' Strathclyde has confirmed that evidence gathered during surveillance operations against supporters is to be used to make “on summary” applications to the courts for bans. These are controversial as the orders can be granted even though the individuals have not committed any crime. '

maybe someone can fix the link to the herald story..

Orders can be granted even though the individuals have not committed any crime. is not opinion.

Neither is ' Chief Constables will also be able to apply to the courts to ban an individual from matches involving the national team and SPL or SFL even if they have not been convicted of an offence.........banning orders imposed without conviction can last for up to three years.'

Nor are the banning orders restricted to stadiums: ' New football banning orders would ban a person from attending specified football matches in Scotland. Courts could also ban individuals from certain pubs or town centres on match days.

We can of course be certain our kind understanding police forces will apply for them in a sympathetic manner and the authorities will ensure they are applied evenly across all clubs.

We can be equally certain that the forces of law and order will not flinch from arresting and banning those of minority groups who transcend - even if doing so is a catalyst for chattering representatives of those minority groups to scream ' We are persecuted victims '.

even more worrying in my opinion......

[ictchris]

Fair enough aye, but he's not been found guilty of anything yet. So by banning him from away grounds then they're handing out punishments for cases that haven't even been proven yet.

Many people are given conditions to follow before they go to trial - not to approach any witnesses or go to certain places, for example.