Handcuffs Celebration

[Guest Spectre]

...to think this was appropriate?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/7719625.stm

[SMEE]

An ill concieved action by Morris. Dont think there was any malice behind it tho

[Council Juice]

I can understand him wanting to show support for his mate who's in the nick for the next 7 years, but surely a phone call would suffice.

Should have thought about it but he's a footie player and most aint too bright.

[dead_ball_specialist]

I don't see what the fuss is about. Just another silly media-manufactured 'outrage'. Nothing wrong with showing support to your friend in hard times. You don't write a man off because he makes a mistake. He got in his car when he'd had a drink, foolish and irresponsible - but he doesn't deserve to be ostracised like he's some kind of monster. He's paying the price for what he did and will no doubt be haunted by guilt for the rest of his life.

[caley100]

Doesnt need to have malice to hurt someone, may just be a feckin lack of brain cells... act before thinking

[PullMyFinger]

I don't see what the fuss is about. Just another silly media-manufactured 'outrage'. Nothing wrong with showing support to your friend in hard times. You don't write a man off because he makes a mistake. He got in his car when he'd had a drink, foolish and irresponsible - but he doesn't deserve to be ostracised like he's some kind of monster. He's paying the price for what he did and will no doubt be haunted by guilt for the rest of his life.

That's a lot of bullshlt. Aaron and Bens' parents are paying the price. Their sentence won't end in 7 years.

[dead_ball_specialist]

I don't see what the fuss is about. Just another silly media-manufactured 'outrage'. Nothing wrong with showing support to your friend in hard times. You don't write a man off because he makes a mistake. He got in his car when he'd had a drink, foolish and irresponsible - but he doesn't deserve to be ostracised like he's some kind of monster. He's paying the price for what he did and will no doubt be haunted by guilt for the rest of his life.

That's a lot of bullshlt. Aaron and Bens' parents are paying the price. Their sentence won't end in 7 years.

His parents only know about the celebration because hate mongering tabloid journalists have turned the celebration into a media circus. It's amazing how easily people adopt a lynch-mob mentality.

Edited November 10, 2008 by dead_ball_specialist

[chris123]

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[PullMyFinger]

His parents only know about the celebration because hate mongering tabloid journalists have turned the celebration into a media circus. It's amazing how easily people adopt a lynch-mob mentality.

The hate mongering tabloid journalists have a moral duty to report things as they see them. I'd doubt that this report sold a lot of papers but if it highlights insensitive behaviour of "professional sportsmen" at a time when supporters are being lambasted then maybe there will be some guidelines sent out to clubs identifying inappropriate behaviour.

[DALNEIGHCALEY]

I don't see what the fuss is about. Just another silly media-manufactured 'outrage'. Nothing wrong with showing support to your friend in hard times. You don't write a man off because he makes a mistake. He got in his car when he'd had a drink, foolish and irresponsible - but he doesn't deserve to be ostracised like he's some kind of monster. He's paying the price for what he did and will no doubt be haunted by guilt for the rest of his life.

You Sir are an ass hole.

I bet your not a parent.

[CaleyD]

What did he think his gesture was going to achieve?

His actions were antagonistic and disrespectful to the family and if he was playing for my club then I'd be making certain he was punished for bringing the clubs name into disrepute.

[Guest Spectre]

His parents only know about the celebration because hate mongering tabloid journalists have turned the celebration into a media circus. It's amazing how easily people adopt a lynch-mob mentality.

Eh? It's not like this was a private affair, if you do something in front of 8000 fans and the media I think you should expect it to be noticed. And nobody's lynching Norris or McCormick, the parents are being incredible dignified in the circumstances.

[PullMyFinger]

DC I would prefer it if you would refrain from profanities, misinformed or misguided may be more appropriate.

[MrsICTFC]

Just shows that some players have no brains ! x

[Council Juice]

DalneighCaley

Yes of course the parents have had the most unthinkable event happen in their lives and its something no one should have to burden, but he will have to live with the fact his thoughtlessness and stupidity killed two children. 7 years inside will never make up for what his actions have lead to. I dont think you have to be a parent to understand that.

Secondly the media never report things as they see it

They latch on to anything and attempt to make a scandal out of it. Your average tabloid journo is a blood sucking leech of an a thing nowhere near human.

When you look at the recent BBC scandals. Who would have cared had the newspapers not went on a witch hunt?

2 people complained after the show. The rest of the listeners were regulars who knew what to expect and, whilst probably realising it was a touch OTT, didnt really care.

The player Norris probably feels guilty himself. From what I hear it was his wedding Mcormick was driving from. He was probably trying to show to everyone support for his mate who he feels has to live with the consequences of his actions.

He could have went about it in another way entirely though and as i said earlier called him. He didnt, but its hardly a disrepute case or sick or outrageous. Just misguided and not well thought through.

[chris123]

DC I would prefer it if you would refrain from profanities, misinformed or misguided may be more appropriate.

These days on internet forums, people seem to take disagreeing with them as a personal insult and hit back with some form of personal abuse.

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

Club fines 'handcuff' footballer source: BBC web-site

A footballer who made a crossed hands "handcuff" gesture to celebrate a goal has been fined by his club. The club said Norris deeply regretted his actions. David Norris who plays for Ipswich Town said his action was not intended to support his friend Luke McCormick.

An Ipswich Town statement read: "David deeply regrets that his actions have been wrongly interpreted and has written a personal and private letter of regret to Mr and Mrs Peak.

"In hearing the player's explanation, the club also regrets the potential for misinterpretation of the gesture and would love to make a donation to an appropriate charity, equal to the fine imposed on the players."

The club statement added: ?Whilst the club has heard David's explanation that his gesture was in no way intended to condone or support the actions of his friend Luke McCormick, he was found to have been insensitive to the possible interpretation that such a gesture may create.?

Inteteresting - 'misinterpreted' but still fined (rightly)....

Edited November 10, 2008 by Tichy_Blacks_Back

[PullMyFinger]

DC I would prefer it if you would refrain from profanities, misinformed or misguided may be more appropriate.

These days on internet forums, people seem to take disagreeing with them as a personal insult and hit back with some form of personal abuse.

He's still bitter about the merger, what gets me is why come onto an ICT website if it's so painful.

[SMEE]

Do we really think this guy set out to offend and upset a greiving family, or just showing support for a freind? Also, is this really the most news worthy story in the world today? Its pretty much all i have been hearing all day!

[Guest Spectre]

No, he's just a tw*t I guess!

The most newsworthy story today is what China has decided to do about the credit crisis, but surprisingly doesn't seem to have been discussed much on football forums!

[Guest couchpotato]

Do we really think this guy set out to offend and upset a greiving family, or just showing support for a freind?

I'm sure he didn't set out to offend the grieving family,what is of concern though, is the fact he didn't realise or understand it would seriously offend and upset, such is his lack of understanding and empathy for the loss endured by the family.It would appear to him it's just a case of his mate "doing his time" and then it's all over.

[SMEE]

what did China do? Dont think i have heard one mention in the News

[Guest Spectre]

Spending ?400bn. Just about enough to get a Champions League spot in the EPL.

[Alex MacLeod]

Like has been said I'm sure no malice was intended but he is publicly showing support for someone convicted of killing two innocent beings. To do so is to condone drink driving and anyone who does that is as guilty as the driver.

[SMEE]

Like has been said I'm sure no malice was intended but he is publicly showing support for someone convicted of killing two innocent beings. To do so is to condone drink driving and anyone who does that is as guilty as the driver.

Again, I would have to say, I am 90% positive that this is NOT the intended outcome he would have wished to convey through his celebrations. If the opposite was true, many who witnessed his celebration would surely have to been aware of the meaning behind his gesture. Again, I would bet at least 99% of people who witnessed his gesture would not have thought anything of it.

Edited November 10, 2008 by SMEE