1st division now and back then

[12th Man]

Can any one remind me who our opponents were the last time we were in the 1st division and how did the league table finish.

Would you deem the other teams to be strong opposition? having the top two teams from div 1 join the SPL the year before our promotion did this help our promotion quest too.

Who were the main contenders for promotion that year and why ? did any teams have wealthy financial backing at the time.

Excluding our last year in div 3, when we had a support of around 3000, have we ever been way out in front in the league table since.

[tm4tj]

15th May 2004 Pld Home Away Overall Pts GD

W D L F A W D L F A W D L F A

1 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 36 13 4 1 37 12 8 3 7 30 21 21 7 8 67 33 70 +34

2 Clyde 36 11 4 3 34 17 9 5 4 30 23 20 9 7 64 40 69 +24

3 St. Johnstone 36 8 5 5 34 27 7 7 4 25 18 15 12 9 59 45 57 +14

4 Falkirk 36 8 4 6 20 16 7 6 5 23 21 15 10 11 43 37 55 +6

5 Queen of the South 36 9 6 3 24 16 6 3 9 22 32 15 9 12 46 48 54 -2

6 Ross County 36 8 6 4 24 17 4 7 7 25 24 12 13 11 49 41 49 +8

7 St. Mirren 36 6 9 3 27 23 3 5 10 12 23 9 14 13 39 46 41 -7

8 Raith Rovers 36 5 5 8 18 28 3 5 10 19 29 8 10 18 37 57 34 -20

9 Ayr United 36 4 7 7 21 29 2 6 10 16 29 6 13 17 37 58 31 -21

10 Brechin City 36 5 3 10 21 33 1 6 11 16 40 6 9 21 37 73 27 -36

[stevico1]

Not many people know that Dougie Donnelly had a major influence in us winning the title that year :thumb04:

Edited November 28, 2009 by stevico1

[tm4tj]

I'll try again

Go to the Caley Jaggie website and hit the league tables/fixtures results link on the left then use the drop down menus to find the correct year. Some interesting results.

[Alex MacLeod]

Or just go here

[The Mantis]

I remember thinking we were a wee bit lucky that big clubs like P*r*ick, Pars and Dees were not in our league.

I also thought when we came down this season that the standard was poor but maybe that's just natural after 5 years in the SPL.

Edited November 28, 2009 by The Mantis

[clacher_holiday2]

Sadly Mantis, the standard IS poor, Dundee are considered by far the best in the section and their midfield consists of Ritchie Hart and Brian Kerr... Give me a break!

We should be wiping the floor with this division, we have too many players that are better than the best the rest can throw at us. Why isnt it happening? Who knows... I actually have faith in Butcher mind.

The first division was at its weakest for years when we got up, even then it was by the skin of our teeth, much stronger now despite how weak it actually is.

[caley100]

The telling factor is defence ! the season we won the league we lost 1 game at home, ever since we lost Dods we have had a poor defensive record.

Look at Butchers signings for this season - only one player is looking the business - Hayes, the rest - forget it and that includes Bulvitus.

The gudgie gypo from over the bridge nailed it by saying we cant beat anyone in the top five! and that is a fact.

I've tranferred meself from optimist to a leaning pessimist, and i cant see us getting a result next week either. :( :(

Edited November 29, 2009 by caley100

[SMEE]

we have too many players that are better than the best the rest can throw at us.

Care to name them?

[DALNEIGHCALEY]

Sadly Mantis, the standard IS poor, Dundee are considered by far the best in the section and their midfield consists of Ritchie Hart and Brian Kerr... Give me a break!

We should be wiping the floor with this division, we have too many players that are better than the best the rest can throw at us. Why isnt it happening? Who knows... I actually have faith in Butcher mind.

The first division was at its weakest for years when we got up, even then it was by the skin of our teeth, much stronger now despite how weak it actually is.

Richie Hart is far better than anything we have in centre midfield .

[DornochCaley]

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Sadly Mantis, the standard IS poor, Dundee are considered by far the best in the section and <u><b>their midfield consists of Ritchie Hart and Brian Kerr... Give me a break! </b></u><br /><br />We should be wiping the floor with this division, we have too many players that are better than the best the rest can throw at us. Why isnt it happening? Who knows... I actually have faith in Butcher mind.<br /><br />The first division was at its weakest for years when we got up, even then it was by the skin of our teeth, much stronger now despite how weak it actually is.

<br /><br />Richie Hart is far better than anything we have in centre midfield .<br />

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Yes, but he wouldnt get into our team with the formation we play. We have 3 players that count as CM'. Two of which are played as Defensive Midfielders, something that Hart is not, the 3rd is played in Harts Attacking Midfeilder, and i woudnt play Hart infront of Sanchez. Between himself and Hayes, they create nearly every chance we get at goal.