Kelty/ Is this a joke - merged thread

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

I assume the Emergency Board meeting has finished!! Such is the crisis. If Morrison was honest in saying he told the Board that he would be resigning at the end of June 2024 they would no doubt have considered a new Chairman. Hang on, this is the Club in Scotland that is in greatest danger of its existence which has blindly been lead to the precipice. Forget 'this day in 2015 we won the Scottish Cup' but who will now save the club?

Hopefully today, we await what will be dramatic news from  decisions reached at the Emergency Board meeting.

[hislopsoffsideagain]

Hopefully there will be some clarity from the club today. At the time of writing, we have no chairman, our accounts are overdue and a major income stream from Statkraft has fallen through, while we don't know which players have been offered new contracts (or if any actually have been offered new deals) and any player recruitment is surely on hold until Keltygate is resolved.

 

 

I suspect - and hope - that Alan Savage is positioning himself as the club's saviour, or at least as the figurehead for those who might step in and rescue the situation.. His youth academy gesture has got him some credit with the support, and he's publicised his disgust with the Kelty plan and with Gardiner. But the outgoing board will want some of the money they've put into the club back, and their replacements will not want to give them a penny because of the mess that they wlll have to clear up. The longer it takes to sort that out, the weaker our position will get and the more likely administration becomes.

 

Edited June 4 by hislopsoffsideagain

[alwaysblue]

11 hours ago, ICTPaisley said:

Ideal for the turncoats 

proposing to watch Clach is a distraction/not an option and they(Clach)  are milking it playing the local team card. with respect its not the same product. We need to concentrate on saving our team  .

[+DoofersDad]

The Board must surely understand that the club has no future without the fans and that the fans feel betrayed.  They must recognise that the failures which Achfary so eloquently summarises in his latest post, lie with the Board collectively and not just with the Chairman, and that therefore they have to take responsibility for resolving the crisis they created.  They must surely understand that there is a need to reach out to the fan base if solutions are to be found.

The first step would be to issue some brief communication to let people know that somebody is still in the building.  I am sure we all appreciate that to reverse the Kelty deal and to relieve any employee of their duties may involve difficult negotiations and legal advice and that therefore they may be severely limited on what they can say.  But there is no good reason to say nothing.  Why can they not put a simple holding statement out?  This might simply:-

1. Officially confirm that Ross Morrison has stood down as Chairman.
2. Confirm whether Morrison remains on the Board or not.
3. Confirm who is interim Chairman.
4. Clarify the position regarding the overdue 2022/23 accounts.
5. Acknowledge the strong feelings and concern amongst the fan base and that fan engagement will be important moving forward.
6. State that discussions are taking place around the Kelty plan and the positions of certain employees, but that detail clearly has to kept confidential at this stage.
7. Confirm that the Board are committed to resolving issues so that we will be able to field a competitive team at Annan on July 13th.
8. Agree to provide regular updates.

Do they not understand that the longer the silence goes on, the angrier and more disillusioned the fans become?

[Achfary]

38 minutes ago, hislopsoffsideagain said:

I suspect - and hope - that Alan Savage is positioning himself as the club's saviour, or at least as the figurehead for those who might step in and rescue the situation.. His youth academy gesture has got him some credit with the support, and he's publicised his disgust with the Kelty plan and with Gardiner. But the outgoing board will want some of the money they've put into the club back, and their replacements will not want to give them a penny because of the mess that they wlll have to clear up. 

Well said.  100%.

[buckett]

Inverness

What a mess!

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

3 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

Acknowledge the strong feelings and concern amongst the fan base and that fan engagement will be important moving forward.

It might be difficult to achieve but amongst the fans are some very experienced and talented individuals who almost certainly would offer voluntary service on bodies set up by the Club to help consider proposals e.g. moving training to Fife, making profit from potentially providing concerts, leasing a piece of land, applying to the Council for planning permission. If the Trust had a board member or two it could possibly vet selected persons to assist the club. That goodwill surely exists and anyone helping the Club, well would be helping the club. Just a thought. Being objective, the current model has not worked.

[Achfary]

1 hour ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

It might be difficult to achieve but amongst the fans are some very experienced and talented individuals who almost certainly would offer voluntary service on bodies set up by the Club to help consider proposals e.g. moving training to Fife, making profit from potentially providing concerts, leasing a piece of land, applying to the Council for planning permission. If the Trust had a board member or two it could possibly vet selected persons to assist the club. That goodwill surely exists and anyone helping the Club, well would be helping the club. Just a thought. Being objective, the current model has not worked.

When Boris Johnson gave the now former MP Rory Stewart a senior cabinet post, he gave him the Africa brief.  Rory wanted and expected Middle East, justifiably - he had been deputy governor of Iraq, director of an NPO in Afghanistan,  and spoke Dari and Urdu fluently.

His puzzlement at getting Africa, a continent he'd never set foot in, was explained to him by a colleague as thus: some leaders won't choose people for roles in which they have a knowledge advantage over said leader

It's normalised that fans are to be kept at arm's length - but it is just absurd at non-profit making ones.

The fact that the ICT boardroom has been like the bat cave for years is a choice, evident by the hurdles/shutters Ross et al put up to stymie the Trust's proposal

At ICT, there are a number of very relevantly-skilled professionals that would volunteer, of course many have done so in the past, but CEOs and MDs eventually alienated them.

Hopefully a stronger and emboldened Supporters Trust and fan-led new media will sharpen consultation/scrutiny of future choices of stewards?

[+MrCaleyjag]

Seems this is the current view of the boardroom.

[Scotty]

 

[The Mantis]

7 minutes ago, Achfary said:

When Boris Johnson gave the now former MP Rory Stewart a senior cabinet post, he gave him the Africa brief.

Off topic ( Scotty this forum maybe needs a spoiler alert button) but… just started reading his book “Politics on the Edge” a couple of days ago after waiting about 6 months. Just reached the point where he’s working under Cameron.

[ictchris]

If the Kelty move is off due to fan pressure, they need to let people know so that people can arrange to buy season tickets.  This whole shambles could be an opportunity to galvanise the fanbase, re-engage them.  As it stands, we don't know who the chairman is, we don't know what players have been given deals, we don't know if the manager is going to stay around, we don't know if we are going into administration.

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

Just now, ictchris said:

If the Kelty move is off due to fan pressure, they need to let people know so that people can arrange to buy season tickets.  This whole shambles could be an opportunity to galvanise the fanbase, re-engage them.  As it stands, we don't know who the chairman is, we don't know what players have been given deals, we don't know if the manager is going to stay around, we don't know if we are going into administration.

The club probably do not know what is a realistic price for a season ticket. Also Gardiner is probably the only person able to do things. If Directors reach a decision someone has to action them. Who apart from Gardiner administers?

[Leaky Blinder]

I remain positive the board, along with front man Gardiner are busy working on their plan B as we speak

[robbo1985]

When is the club going to update the fans on what is going on?

Edited June 4 by robbo1985

[Stu160284]

THE SILENCE FROM THE CLUB ON ALL that is going on is deafening 

[Charles Bannerman]

A very large iceberg lurks dead ahead but we don’t even know if the Captain has seen it. In fact all we know is that there’s no longer even a Captain…. and even that we’ve had to find out for ourselves.

[Yngwie]

21 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

A very large iceberg lurks dead ahead but we don’t even know if the Captain has seen it. In fact all we know is that there’s no longer even a Captain…. and even that we’ve had to find out for ourselves.

The captain saw the iceberg looming ahead in the distance, so plotted a course 136 miles south. However, this sparked a mutiny and he was made to walk the plank. The mutineers then set the ship back on course, so that they can see the iceberg close up.

[Charles Bannerman]

9 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

The captain saw the iceberg looming ahead in the distance, so plotted a course 136 miles south. However, this sparked a mutiny and he was made to walk the plank. The mutineers then set the ship back on course, so that they can see the iceberg close up.

Starring Scot Gardiner as William Bligh… and the ICT Supporters’ Trust as Fletcher Christian….

Then, to mix Maritime Metaphors, the latest problem is that “I see no signal”, but that’s possibly because the Board are still playing bowls on Plymouth Hoe.

Edited June 4 by Charles Bannerman

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Taken from the Moray Firth this afternoon.

[Jack Waddington]

3 hours ago, ictchris said:

If the Kelty move is off due to fan pressure, they need to let people know so that people can arrange to buy season tickets.  This whole shambles could be an opportunity to galvanise the fanbase, re-engage them.  As it stands, we don't know who the chairman is, we don't know what players have been given deals, we don't know if the manager is going to stay around, we don't know if we are going into administration.

It would, but I can't imagine there'd be many purchases until we get word that Gardiner has been thrown on his arse out the front door

[Northern_jaggie]

If there ever was a time for fan investment, it would be under a new and trusted Chairperson following a clear out of the duds on the board. Perhaps that’s not far away at all. 
 

I wonder what a fan investment offer would look like? How much is needed to buy another year of solvency? Who communicates what’s needed? 

I commend the ST for the lobbying work that has no doubt contributed to meaningful change so far. I hope the ST are strongly involved going forward whatever happens. 
 

In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity!

[+Fraz]

 

 

[Charles Bannerman]

3 hours ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

Taken from the Moray Firth this afternoon.

I’m wondering if HMS Sneck actually needs to be renamed the Marie Celeste…. because it very much looks as if there’s no one there.

[NuclearDachshund]

Why did so many on the board all go along with this nonsense for so long. I find it difficult to accept that they are all incompetent, though looking at the management at my work and suits in general, it’s quite possible they are.