Royalty Aristocrats and Inverness

[Laurence]

Question

 

Who is Earl of Inverness ?

 

Question

 

Who was Duchess of Inverness ( In her own right ,) >

 

Question

 

Who is the Hereditary Constable of Inverness Castle ?

 

 

Just wondered if anyone knows off hand i e  not by research

 

Answers in a day or two.

Edited February 17, 2013 by Laurence

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

Andy thingymabob?

His ex-wife? Fergie?

No idea - didn't even know there was such a position up for grabs.

[dougiedanger]

1) Who gives a f**k?

 

2) Who gives a flying f**k?

 

3) Why would anyone give a sh*t?

[Charles Bannerman]

1) Who gives a f**k?

 

2) Who gives a flying f**k?

 

3) Why would anyone give a sh*t?

I'm with Dougie on that one, but I did hear Peter Corbett in his Council days refer jokingly to himself as the Provost of the Ferry   Class!!

 

But the difference was that Peter was elected. I have no interest whatsoever in these other nonentities who have their so called "titles" because their ancestors were basically more unscrupulous thugs than their contemporaries and stabbed, cheated and fornicated their way into these positions.

[Yngwie]

1. The Grand Old Duke of York

2. Lady Gaga

3. Count Dracula

[+Fraz]

Question

 

Who is Earl of Inverness ?

 

Question

 

Who was Duchess of Inverness ( In her own right ,) >

 

Question

 

Who is the Hereditary Constable of Inverness Castle ?

 

 

Just wondered if anyone knows off hand i e  not by research

 

Answers in a day or two.

 

 

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

1 IHE

2 Mrs IHE

3. Granville Paterson

[Kingsmills]

1. Toich

 

2. Jenny Wood

 

3. Forty Pockets

[caley100]

1. Danny Fridge

 

2. His Granny ( who provided much income for him even although deceased )

 

3. Colin Baillie (who acted like he ran the place) 

[Laurence]

Many thanks for all those remarkably intelligent answers, it is very gratifying that such supremely articulate and able people are using this web site.

Where would we be without your most heartfelt input. It says a lot for the Scottish education system that it is producing such able fellows.

a) Prince Andrew Duke of York

b) Cecilia Underwood, 1st Duchess of Inverness (née Lady Cecilia Letitia Gore; c. 1785 – 1 August 1873) was the second wife of Prince Augustus Frederick, Duke of Sussex, sixth son of King George III. As their marriage was in contravention of the Royal Marriages Act 1772, it was considered legally void, and she could not be styled either as the Duchess of Sussex or a Princess. She was created Duchess of Inverness, in her own right, by Queen Victoria, on 10 April 1840.

c) The Duke of Gordon

[Laurence]

 

1 IHE

2 Mrs IHE

3. Granville Paterson

 

I think you are an exception to the above , A master of inverted snobbery I feel

By the way are you a prison Officer ?

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

Many thanks for all those remarkably intelligent answers, it is very gratifying that such supremely articulate and able people are using this web site.

Where would we be without your most heartfelt input. It says a lot for the Scottish education system that it is producing such able fellows.

a) Prince Andrew Duke of York

b) Cecilia Underwood, 1st Duchess of Inverness (née Lady Cecilia Letitia Gore; c. 1785 – 1 August 1873) was the second wife of Prince Augustus Frederick, Duke of Sussex, sixth son of King George III. As their marriage was in contravention of the Royal Marriages Act 1772, it was considered legally void, and she could not be styled either as the Duchess of Sussex or a Princess. She was created Duchess of Inverness, in her own right, by Queen Victoria, on 10 April 1840.

c) The Duke of Gordon

 

a) That's the buck

 

b) I can see the 'in her own right' wikipedia reference but Fergie was also 'Duchess of Inverness in her own right' if I recall correctly while she was still slurping at the big table....maybe you can prove me wrong....

 

c) The Duke of Gordon? Go on tell me why?

[Charles Bannerman]

Many thanks for all those remarkably intelligent answers, it is very gratifying that such supremely articulate and able people are using this web site.

Where would we be without your most heartfelt input. It says a lot for the Scottish education system that it is producing such able fellows.

 

Laurence... do you not get it or something? The message from just about everybody who has replied to this thread is that they couldn't give a toss about any of these overprivileged nonentities who acquired their vacuous labels in the manner which I described in post #4.

Inverness has no need whatsoever for an "earl" or a "duchess" and even less need to shoulder its share of the financial liability of keeping these pathetic scroungers. And the only constables that were of any value at all to Inverness Castle were when the Police Station was based there.

So if you ask stupid questions - expect stupid answers.

Edited February 23, 2013 by Charles Bannerman

[The Mantis]

Come on Charles......... You should know everybody's out of step except oor Laurence

[Laurence]

Many thanks for all those remarkably intelligent answers, it is very gratifying that such supremely articulate and able people are using this web site.

Where would we be without your most heartfelt input. It says a lot for the Scottish education system that it is producing such able fellows.

 

Laurence... do you not get it or something? The message from just about everybody who has replied to this thread is that they couldn't give a toss about any of these overprivileged nonentities who acquired their vacuous labels in the manner which I described in post #4.

Inverness has no need whatsoever for an "earl" or a "duchess" and even less need to shoulder its share of the financial liability of keeping these pathetic scroungers. And the only constables that were of any value at all to Inverness Castle were when the Police Station was based there.

So if you ask stupid questions - expect stupid answers.

 

It takes one to know one Charlie  baby

Edited February 25, 2013 by Laurence

[Laurence]

AS my Dad rightly said

 

Civility costs nothing

[Charles Bannerman]

It takes one to know one Charlie  baby

I take it by that somewhat cryptic comment you don't mean "royalist"?

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

1 IHE

2 Mrs IHE

3. Granville Paterson

 

I think you are an exception to the above , A master of inverted snobbery I feel

By the way are you a prison Officer ?

 

No but I was allowed time to answer by one.

[Charles Bannerman]

1 IHE

2 Mrs IHE

3. Granville Paterson

 

I think you are an exception to the above , A master of inverted snobbery I feel

By the way are you a prison Officer ?

Well I suppose in IHE's earlier professional career he might effectively have been regarded as one! (Were you ever on duty on a locked ward IHE?)

[Scotty]

b) I can see the 'in her own right' wikipedia reference but Fergie was also 'Duchess of Inverness in her own right' if I recall correctly while she was still slurping at the big table....maybe you can prove me wrong....

 

Wouldnt have been "in her own right" as she only had the full title when married to Andrew but it's a moot point anyway as the wife of an Earl is a Countess ... so Fergie was Countess of Inverness but also Duchess of York and Baroness Killyleagh.

 

Apparently she can still use "Sarah, Countess of Inverness" or "Sarah, Duchess of York" (and presumably Baroness) but there is no "status" attached, they are more like defacto surnames than titles. They get allowed to use them but the styling is different. Previously she should have been addressed as "Her Grace, Sarah, the Countess of Inverness" or "HRH, Sarah, the Duchess of York" with the divorce she lost the 'her grace' and 'HRH' portions as well as the word 'the' after her first name.....

 

Feck !!!! I got sucked into this topic !!!!! All I really meant to say was that I dont get the point as to why royals get given multiple titles??? Isnt a Duke higher than an 'earl'? and if so, why do you need to be an earl and/or a Baron as well, just be a feckin duke !!!

 

 

 

Have to go some to beat Idi Amin though !!!! ............. "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular" as well as claiming to be the uncrowned King of Scotland !!!

 

Or Wilhelm II : "His Imperial and Royal Majesty Wilhelm the Second, by the Grace of God, German Emperor and King of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg, Burgrave of Nuremberg, Count of Hohenzollern, Duke of Silesia and of the County of Glatz, Grand Duke of the Lower Rhine and of Posen, Duke in Saxony, of Angria, of Westphalia, of Pomerania and of Lunenburg, Duke of Schleswig, of Holstein and of Crossen, Duke of Magdeburg, of Bremen, of Guelderland and of Jülich, Cleves and Berg, Duke of the Wends and the Kashubians, of Lauenburg and of Mecklenburg, Landgrave of Hesse and in Thuringia, Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia, Prince of Orange, of Rugen, of East Friesland, of Paderborn and of Pyrmont, Prince of Halberstadt, of Münster, of Minden, of Osnabrück, of Hildesheim, of Verden, of Kammin, of Fulda, of Nassau and of Moers, Princely Count of Henneberg, Count of the Mark, of Ravensberg, of Hohenstein, of Tecklenburg and of Lingen, Count of Mansfeld, of Sigmaringen and of Veringen, Lord of Frankfurt."

[+DoofersDad]

Just as well he was an Emperor and not a footballer - would never have got all of that on the back of his shirt

[Charles Bannerman]

Apparently she can still use "Sarah, Countess of Inverness" or "Sarah, Duchess of York" (and presumably Baroness) but there is no "status" attached, they are more like defacto surnames than titles. They get allowed to use them but the styling is different. Previously she should have been addressed as "Her Grace, Sarah, the Countess of Inverness" or "HRH, Sarah, the Duchess of York" with the divorce she lost the 'her grace' and 'HRH' portions as well as the word 'the' after her first name.....

 

Or Wilhelm II : "His Imperial and Royal Majesty Wilhelm the Second, by the Grace of God, German Emperor and King of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg, Burgrave of Nuremberg, Count of Hohenzollern, Duke of Silesia and of the County of Glatz, Grand Duke of the Lower Rhine and of Posen, Duke in Saxony, of Angria, of Westphalia, of Pomerania and of Lunenburg, Duke of Schleswig, of Holstein and of Crossen, Duke of Magdeburg, of Bremen, of Guelderland and of Jülich, Cleves and Berg, Duke of the Wends and the Kashubians, of Lauenburg and of Mecklenburg, Landgrave of Hesse and in Thuringia, Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia, Prince of Orange, of Rugen, of East Friesland, of Paderborn and of Pyrmont, Prince of Halberstadt, of Münster, of Minden, of Osnabrück, of Hildesheim, of Verden, of Kammin, of Fulda, of Nassau and of Moers, Princely Count of Henneberg, Count of the Mark, of Ravensberg, of Hohenstein, of Tecklenburg and of Lingen, Count of Mansfeld, of Sigmaringen and of Veringen, Lord of Frankfurt."

Doesn't all of that just show just how far these people are right up themselves! One suspects that Kaiser Bill's titles originate from the Unification of Germany by that pet rottweiler Bismarck in 1871 and probably originate from every little village and henhouse in the former Holy Roman Empire. I assume these were initially taken up by KB's grandad who was the first German "Emperor" and when it came to KB's own turn, megalomaniac that he was, he was more than happy to have all these gongs after his name.

What a load of pretentious p**h!

Our lot (who are Kaiser Bill's relatives anyway) aren't much better. Can you really get your head round the absolute absurdity of one human being addressing another as "Your Majesty", "Your Royal Highness" or "Your Grace". Just think about what that bilge actually means and realise how ridiculous it is that anyone should be grovelled to with nonsense like that.

 

PS do Fergie's daughters - the two Princess Piggies - keep their gongs because of their dad?

Edited February 25, 2013 by Charles Bannerman

[Caley Mad In Berks]

 

 

 

PS do Fergie's daughters - the two Princess Piggies - keep their gongs because of their dad?

 

Charles

You have made your anti Royalist views very plain many times on this forum. I don't have a problem with that. Personally, I feel quite neutral about their worth to society in this day and age.

However, I think that you calling Fergie's daughters 'Princess Piggies' is a cheap shot, both offensive and unnecessary.

[Donview]

 

1 IHE2 Mrs IHE3. Granville Paterson

 I think you are an exception to the above , A master of inverted snobbery I feelBy the way are you a prison Officer ?

No, he's an inmate............