Scottish Cup, Caley v Rangers, 1984

[Glen Mhor]

I came across some newspaper cuttings the other night on the Caley v Rangers Scottish Cup tie played on 18 February 1984. The Rangers won 6-0 (H.T. 0-2) with goals from Redford, Williamson (2), Russell and McCoist (2). Attendance: 5,500. The teams:-

Caley (Manager: Ray Mackintosh)

MacDonald

Davidson

Mann

Dewar (Gibson, 69)

Summers

Corbett

Lisle

MacKintosh (Baxter, 65)

Urquhart

Docherty

Robertson

Rangers (Manager: Jock Wallace)

McCloy

Nicholl

Dawson (McPherson, 70)

McClelland

Paterson

Redford

Russell (Clark, 75)

Prytz

Williamson

McCoist

Cooper

[SMEE]

I was at this game. Clearest memory was peter McLoy doing patter dives for the cameras. Also he was nearly scoring everytime he took a goal kick.

Who was the Gibson that came on for Caley? Was it Dave Gibson, who later returned to Caley?

Edited November 9, 2008 by SMEE

[Glen Mhor]

I was at this game. Clearest memory was peter McLoy doing patter dives for the cameras. Also he was nearly scoring everytime he took a goal kick.

Who was the Gibson that came on for Caley? Was it Dave Gibson, who later returned to Caley?

Aye, it was Dave Gibson.

[SMEE]

Aye, it was Dave Gibson.

I thought he was quite a useful player. had a good engine on him. If i recall, wasnt he a PE teacher?

[The Mantis]

One or two pics from the game on my site courtesy of Billy Urquhart. Look for the page called 'Urquhart Files'.

There was definitely a video of that game - I think Caley sold it. I've seen one goal from it on a bit of BBC video I've got kicking about somewhere.

Edited November 9, 2008 by The Mantis

[SMEE]

One or two pics from the game on my site courtesy of Billy Urquhart. Look for the page called 'Urquhart Files'.

I was actually browsing them very same pics earlier tonight

[Alex MacLeod]

Rangers (Manager: Jock Wallace)

McCloy

Nicholl

Dawson (McPherson, 70)

McClelland

Paterson

Redford

Russell (Clark, 75)

Prytz

Williamson

McCoist

Cooper

And only one foriegn player in that squad

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

2 more actually - McClelland and Nicholl....

But I know what you mean....

The other sub for Caley was Robbie Baxter....I had forgotten all about him....was quite a good player from what I remember....part of that great Caley youth team of the early 1980s....

[SMEE]

Robbie Baxter was a great little player on the wing. Wilsie Robertson on the left, supplying the goods for Makintosh and Urquhart. GREAT DAYS!

[stevico1]

Robbie Baxter was a great little player on the wing. Wilsie Robertson on the left, supplying the goods for Makintosh and Urquhart. GREAT DAYS!

Robbie was a great wee player but a bit of a wild one, havent seen or heard about him for years I wonder what he is up to these days

[SMEE]

^he was a plumber the last i heard i am sure. maybe we should have a Caley and Thislte "where are they now" thread

[BornCaley]

I remember this game very well. The day the tix were sold, some of the High School teachers were walking past the queue at the Caley Club looking for pupils and dragged some out...They didnt spot me though.

Want this the game that Urquart got the spotted by Rangers. Although i thought John Greig was their manager then

[SMEE]

Want this the game that Urquart got the spotted by Rangers. Although i thought John Greig was their manager then

Oh Chris, old age is setting in Think it was 1978 that he signed for Rangers, then onto Wigan before returning to his rightfull home in 1981.......... i think.

[Charles Bannerman]

Want this the game that Urquart got the spotted by Rangers. Although i thought John Greig was their manager then

Oh Chris, old age is setting in Think it was 1978 that he signed for Rangers, then onto Wigan before returning to his rightfull home in 1981.......... i think.

That's just about right. Jock Wallace spotted Billy at what I think was a friendly in 1978 and snapped him up and it would have been around 81 that he came back via Wigan.

Edited November 11, 2008 by Charles Bannerman

[The Mantis]

The reason being that he scored a couple against them in a 6-3 loss. I'm sure it was Greig that signed him though. I think Wallace had just won the treble and retired.

[buckett]

6-3: are you sure?

I thought it was 6-1 and I didn't think Urquhart scored, though he was probably MoM. I'll stand corrected though . . .

I remember being in either the Heathmount or Corriegarth after the game and word came through that he'd signed for Rangers. I'm sure he came in later on that evening.

Edited November 11, 2008 by buckett

[Charles Bannerman]

The reason being that he scored a couple against them in a 6-3 loss. I'm sure it was Greig that signed him though. I think Wallace had just won the treble and retired.

You may well be right. I'm not 100% sure it was Wallace.

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

Match Programme

The Scottish Cup game result in 1984 was 0-6 - Aberdeen beat Celtic 2-1 aet in the Final with a certain Mr McGhee netting the winner. Not sure of the result for the earlier game in 1979....

Mr Urguhart did indeed return North in 1981....

From Wigan FC web-site:

URQUHART, Billy

DOB: 22nd November 1956

Other clubs: Inverness Caledonian, Rangers

Honours: Scottish League Cup winner 1979 (Rangers)

Was signed by Ian McNeill in November 1980 from Glasgow Rangers. He made his Latics League debut on 8th November 1980 against Bradford City at Springfield Park, a game that resulted in a 0-0 draw. A big striker in the mould of Simon Haworth, he never really set Springfield Park alight and by the time he left the club at the end of the season following the appointment of Larry Lloyd as manager, he had played 5+5 League games and scored 2 League goals.

Edited November 12, 2008 by Tichy_Blacks_Back

[Kingsmills]

I'm just about certain that John Grieg was Rangers manager at the time Urquhart signed.

[Tichy_Blacks_Back]

I agree - Wallace had resigned at the end of season after a disagreement with the Rangers board and went to take over at Leicester City - Grieg took over and would have been in place pre-season....

I think it was Jock Wallace when at Leicester that then signed Kevin Macdonald from Caley the following year (1980).

[DJS]

Definitely John Greig

Definitely 6-3 in '78

Bit of a rushed job, the Scottish Cup tie, as Caley had won at Stirling Albion in a replay just a few days before. Happy days.

[CaleyHE]

Rangers (Manager: Jock Wallace)

McCloy

Nicholl

Dawson (McPherson, 70)

McClelland

Paterson

Redford

Russell (Clark, 75)

Prytz

Williamson

McCoist

Cooper

And only one foriegn player in that squad

And usually about 5 foreign players start for Rangers these days.

Incidentally how many start for jags these days ?

[CaleyHE]

Rangers (Manager: Jock Wallace)

McCloy

Nicholl

Dawson (McPherson, 70)

McClelland

Paterson

Redford

Russell (Clark, 75)

Prytz

Williamson

McCoist

Cooper

And only one foriegn player in that squad

And usually about 5 foreign players start for Rangers these days.

Incidentally how many start for jags these days ?

By non foreign, i take it you mean non UK, as big John Mclelland & Jimmy Nicholl wouldnt exactly have qualified for a cap for Scotland.

Very smart thinking, as now you lot an claim rooney to be a local laddie.

Edited November 14, 2008 by CaleyHE

[DALNEIGHCALEY]

Rooneys not from the UK.

[+old caley girl]

Score in 1978 (29 July)was defo 6-3. Urq scored 2 and John Docherty scored the other for Caley. Billy was the first signing John Greig made as Rangers manager.