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  1. 1. General Election 2010

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The Government will have to call a general election sometime within the next six months.

How should we vote? If this was a Scottish Election, I would probably vote SNP without any hesitation, but an SNP vote in a UK election could contribute to the return of a tory government. I certainly wouldn't want that.

Had it not been for Tony Blair's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, (now supported by Gordon Brown) I would have been happy enough to see a labour government returned. Now I'm not so sure.

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The Government will have to call a general election sometime within the next six months.

How should we vote? If this was a Scottish Election, I would probably vote SNP without any hesitation, but an SNP vote in a UK election could contribute to the return of a tory government. I certainly wouldn't want that.

Had it not been for Tony Blair's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, (now supported by Gordon Brown) I would have been happy enough to see a labour government returned. Now I'm not so sure.

I fear you've got that arse about tit, the SNP is (was) a political movement (none of this manifesto bullshit) to devolve powers from Westminster to Scotland and as such a vote for SNP as Alex Salmond has already suggested could put Scotland in a far stronger position should there be a hung parliament.

Scottish elections on the other hand should be about selecting the policies we want from our Government.

The SNP has lost it's fundamental purpose.

They'll still get my vote though, better than the champagne socialists in London.

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Salmond wants a Conservative victory so he can try to garner support for independence. Did you notice I didn't mention the SNP? That's because they're a one man band.

In '79 it was the first time turkeys had been known to vote for an early Christmas - today it's clear that the SNP, with their stance, DON'T care about Scotland.

The first thing a Conservative government will do is pass an emergency budget which will SLASH spending. Remember too that Scotland, as a region of the UK:

a). Has a disproportionately high percentage of people working in the public sector.

b ). The Tories will change the Barnett Formula. They get little support in the way of votes from Scotland - why give Scotland extra funding?

While Cameron won't want to be the PM who MIGHT oversee the break-up of the UK, he has made it clear he wants to further reduce the number of Scottish MPs to 53.

While I love Christmas, please don't vote for it to come early folks. The words foot and shoot spring to mind.

Rant over (for now at least!)

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The Government will have to call a general election sometime within the next six months.

How should we vote? If this was a Scottish Election, I would probably vote SNP without any hesitation, but an SNP vote in a UK election could contribute to the return of a tory government. I certainly wouldn't want that.

Had it not been for Tony Blair's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, (now supported by Gordon Brown) I would have been happy enough to see a labour government returned. Now I'm not so sure.

I fear you've got that arse about tit, the SNP is (was) a political movement (none of this manifesto bullshit) to devolve powers from Westminster to Scotland and as such a vote for SNP as Alex Salmond has already suggested could put Scotland in a far stronger position should there be a hung parliament.

Scottish elections on the other hand should be about selecting the policies we want from our Government.

The SNP has lost it's fundamental purpose.

They'll still get my vote though, better than the champagne socialists in London.

I'd be very happy with a hung parliament, and with the SNP holding the balance of power. That would certainly be good for Scotland. Unfortunately, I just can't see the SNP winning anything like enough seats to achieve that. My fear is they will take a few seats from Labour, but only enough to let the tories win overall, and with a workable majority, which would be a nightmare scenario.

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Blair needed to reach out to the middle classes in the south - but he didn't start dragging towards the centre. You can't deny that they have invested a lot of money in education and health over the past 10 years.

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Blair needed to reach out to the middle classes in the south - but he didn't start dragging towards the centre. You can't deny that they have invested a lot of money in education and health over the past 10 years.

They have certainly wasted a lot, when was the last time you needed to make a doctors appointment? Or visited a hospital?

Education? you are having a laugh. Why are the majority of new schools paid for with private finance and why have so many primary schools been under threat of closure?

Primary schools are forever being flooded by burst pipes because the Education Authorities can't afford the heating bill and switch off the boilers at night. What have they saved if the cleanup cost tens of thousands and displaced pupils.

It's all soundbites.

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Blair needed to reach out to the middle classes in the south - but he didn't start dragging towards the centre. You can't deny that they have invested a lot of money in education and health over the past 10 years.

They've also invested a lot of money on Iraq and Afghanistan....

Still...

It keeps the Taliban off the streets.

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The first thing a Conservative government will do is pass an emergency budget which will SLASH spending. Remember too that Scotland, as a region of the UK:

a). Has a disproportionately high percentage of people working in the public sector.

b ). The Tories will change the Barnett Formula. They get little support in the way of votes from Scotland - why give Scotland extra funding?

Incorrect. Northern Ireland, Wales, the North West and North East of England are disproportionately high percentage. Scotland is not actually too far off average. You also need to consider that as a whole the percentage of people employed in the public sector is far less than many other developed/industrialised nations.

At this stage I am unsure of where my vote will go as its far to early to predict what might happen between now and a general election. However, I can state that it will not go to the conservatives.

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I've got to disagree with you Hiro. In terms of public sector employees, what about all of the RBS employees who are now classified as working for 'the man'? There are literally thousands of staff based in Edinburgh and the Lothians with the World HQ at Gogarburn.

From what I can see, the ONS is classifying all of these folk as civil servants now:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407

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I've got to disagree with you Hiro. In terms of public sector employees, what about all of the RBS employees who are now classified as working for 'the man'? There are literally thousands of staff based in Edinburgh and the Lothians with the World HQ at Gogarburn.

From what I can see, the ONS is classifying all of these folk as civil servants now:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407

From the same site:-

We're higher than average but do we need all of them? I think not.

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I've got to disagree with you Hiro. In terms of public sector employees, what about all of the RBS employees who are now classified as working for 'the man'? There are literally thousands of staff based in Edinburgh and the Lothians with the World HQ at Gogarburn.

From what I can see, the ONS is classifying all of these folk as civil servants now:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=407

From the same site:-

We're higher than average but do we need all of them? I think not.

post-2081-1261069474.gif

There's a massive difference there between Scotland and other parts of the UK. NI has always been heavily subsidised and I guess many in Whitehall and Westminster would be glad to see a united Ireland in terms of the cost of governing the 6 counties. I'm also led to believe that the republic couldn't afford to govern NI in the way it is at the moment.

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