Season Tickets + Resignation Confirmation

[Yngwie]

4 hours ago, Fraz said:

Also could put on a Credit Card which should give further protections. 

I first shared this quote a few weeks ago from Reading FC’s supporters’ trust. They have had a fairly similar situation to us regarding financial problems, regime change and potential new investors.

“We recommend that anyone purchasing a season ticket considers using a credit card for added security.

“If, for any reason, the Club cannot fulfil the season ticket, paying by credit card ensures that you would receive a refund (pro rata) under section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.”

[Charles Bannerman]

I’m not making any criticism here, but there does seem to be a bit of an anomaly that a company with a known history of financial problems which has been hovering on the brink of insolvency for weeks can continue to make advance sales of services to be provided for the next ten months - and that if the company collapses, reimbursement for any payments is the responsibility of a third party credit card provider, despite it being known at time of purchase that there was a significant chance of that collapse.

As I said…just an observation and no criticism or complaint of an arrangement which appears to be playing a significant part in the efforts to save the club.

[STFU]

The credit card thing might offer fans protection but cc companies will go after the club for the funds.

If the club are in administration or liquidation the cc company will get beneficial creditor status.  This means they will be paid ahead of people such as local businesses etc.

It may seem like a smart move but ultimately it's the wrong people who end up paying if the club gets into further trouble.

[ICTPaisley]

15 minutes ago, STFU said:

The credit card thing might offer fans protection but cc companies will go after the club for the funds.

If the club are in administration or liquidation the cc company will get beneficial creditor status.  This means they will be paid ahead of people such as local businesses etc.

It may seem like a smart move but ultimately it's the wrong people who end up paying if the club gets into further trouble.

Or maybe the fans could just write off their season ticket refund, very much like we would love Morrison to do with his own investment.

[+DoofersDad]

3 hours ago, ICTPaisley said:

Or maybe the fans could just write off their season ticket refund, very much like we would love Morrison to do with his own investment.

It is not remotely the same.  The fact that Morrison still has a charge against the club is part of the uncertainty that is stopping people putting money into the club at the moment.  I don't want my money going out of my pocket and then going straight into his pocket when the club goes bust.

Edited July 7, 2024 by DoofersDad

[CaleyCiuin]

A near neighbour of the last Physio says that both the current physio and Kitman have resigned from the Club! Not sure if it’s for the same or different reasons, but that’s not great news. Looks like there could be internal issues as well as financial ones. I suppose this is what happens when you don’t treat folks right. The Club are apparently relying on physios from Ross County. what a state to be in!

Edited July 9, 2024 by CaleyCiuin

[CELTIC1CALEY3]

Just now, CaleyCiuin said:

A near neighbour of the last Physio says that both the current physio and Kitman have resigned from the Club! Not sure if it’s for the same or different reasons, but that’s not great news. Looks like there could be internal issues as well as financial ones. I suppose this is what happens when you don’t treat folks right. The Club are apparently relying on physios from Ross County. what state to be in!

That will no doubt be dressed up as a cost saving. 

[robbo1985]

Is there another Scottish club at any level in more of a mess than us right now? 

[caley1]

10 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

That will no doubt be dressed up as a cost saving. 

Its true no physio or kit man

Edited July 9, 2024 by caley1

[bishbashbosh]

I can remember back in the early days an interview with Scott kellacher, may have been Grampian tv news, he was stuffing dirty shirts into a washing machine at the stadium.

Kit man back then ?
in times of trouble all hands to the pump.

no answer for the physio though.

[LisleRightPeg]

There was no physio in our dug out tonight it’s absolutely ridiculous. 

[CaleyCiuin]

11 hours ago, bishbashbosh said:

I can remember back in the early days an interview with Scott kellacher, may have been Grampian tv news, he was stuffing dirty shirts into a washing machine at the stadium.

Kit man back then ?
in times of trouble all hands to the pump.

no answer for the physio though.

I think during that period the groundsman ( Tommy Cumming at the time) did both. Now all teams right down to Highland league etc have someone who sorts out kit and all the other stuff players and training staff need. 

[+DoofersDad]

9 hours ago, LisleRightPeg said:

There was no physio in our dug out tonight it’s absolutely ridiculous. 

SPFL rules state:-

"G57  It is the responsibility of Premiership Clubs participating in League Matches and Play- Off Matches to ensure that a chartered physiotherapist or equivalent is present throughout each such match to attend to their respective Players and, if necessary, Match Officials and it is the responsibility of each of the other Clubs participating in League Matches and Play-Off Matches to ensure that a person with an appropriate physiotherapy qualification is present throughout each such match to attend to their respective Players and, if necessary, Match Officials.

G58  Only those qualified as above should treat Players and Match Officials on the field of play.

G59  For all Official Matches other than League Matches and Play-Off Matches, there must, at least, be in attendance an individual with appropriate emergency aid training."

So no physio required for a friendly but one will be required for league matches.  It is interesting that only in the Premiership are clubs required to have a chartered (registered) physio or equivalent in attendance, but this rather begs the question of how you define what is "equivalent" to a Chartered Physiotherapist.  Also, what is meant by "an appropriate physiotherapy qualification" if it doesn't require that person to be registered with the professional regulating body.

Bottom line though, is that for league matches we will be required to have someone with a good bit more training that a first aider to be present.

 

[Satan]

Time for Panos to get his joggers on.

[STFU]

53 minutes ago, DoofersDad said:

SPFL rules state:-

"G57  It is the responsibility of Premiership Clubs participating in League Matches and Play- Off Matches to ensure that a chartered physiotherapist or equivalent is present throughout each such match to attend to their respective Players and, if necessary, Match Officials and it is the responsibility of each of the other Clubs participating in League Matches and Play-Off Matches to ensure that a person with an appropriate physiotherapy qualification is present throughout each such match to attend to their respective Players and, if necessary, Match Officials.

G58  Only those qualified as above should treat Players and Match Officials on the field of play.

G59  For all Official Matches other than League Matches and Play-Off Matches, there must, at least, be in attendance an individual with appropriate emergency aid training."

So no physio required for a friendly but one will be required for league matches.  It is interesting that only in the Premiership are clubs required to have a chartered (registered) physio or equivalent in attendance, but this rather begs the question of how you define what is "equivalent" to a Chartered Physiotherapist.  Also, what is meant by "an appropriate physiotherapy qualification" if it doesn't require that person to be registered with the professional regulating body.

Bottom line though, is that for league matches we will be required to have someone with a good bit more training that a first aider to be present.

 

It says in the first sentence this is for premiership clubs.

[buckett]

36 minutes ago, STFU said:

It says in the first sentence this is for premiership clubs.

Perhaps you should read the first sentence again!

(Hint:   . . . . each of the other clubs . . . . )

[+Fraz]

15 hours ago, bishbashbosh said:

I can remember back in the early days an interview with Scott kellacher, may have been Grampian tv news, he was stuffing dirty shirts into a washing machine at the stadium.

Kit man back then ?
in times of trouble all hands to the pump.

no answer for the physio though.

Scott and Fiona do a lot more beyond their normal jobs I believe. 

[STFU]

4 hours ago, buckett said:

Perhaps you should read the first sentence again!

(Hint:   . . . . each of the other clubs . . . . )

I stand corrected.  Thank you.

[+Fraz]

Just 2 hours until the extended early bird period finishes guys! If you get in quick you also get a limited edition dart board sized Scot Gardiner poster. 

[IBM]

I am just going to get a ticket for each game even though it might cost more as I am so pi**ed off with the way the club has been dealing with everything!

[+CaleyHedgehog]

At least the North stand ST holders don't need to worry about losing their seats because only the Main Stand is going to be open for home fans. Another good reason to hold back on buying your ST. 

[caley100]

1 hour ago, CaleyHedgehog said:

At least the North stand ST holders don't need to worry about losing their seats because only the Main Stand is going to be open for home fans. Another good reason to hold back on buying your ST. 

Think it's only for the wee cup games.

[bishbashbosh]

1 hour ago, CaleyHedgehog said:

At least the North stand ST holders don't need to worry about losing their seats because only the Main Stand is going to be open for home fans. Another good reason to hold back on buying your ST. 

Was allocated same seats as last year in north stand. Can’t see even our club selling a season ticket for £182 ( oops clue to age) and then putting me in a seat that others have paid £230 for.

[+Fraz]

I assume also that dispite being asked many times that the club yet again never bothered to designate a singing section for fans who want to stand?

[RiG]

20 hours ago, Fraz said:

I assume also that dispite being asked many times that the club yet again never bothered to designate a singing section for fans who want to stand?

Fairly sure they did. it's in the West Stand IIRC and should be implemented just as soon as the roof is finished